So you want to call me out for a few things and claim to be clued in on this magic thing? Ok well here are the things you are talking about.
and here are the reasons why I’ve said what I did, and why I stand by I say and sorry if the truth hurts, sucks to be you. As far as @Ornias and @Mulberry go, they flagged my reply to you, despite it being a valid response to another reply in the thread. No skin of my back, I’m not going to jump up and make a thread and be all HOW DARE YOU FLAG ME ON SOMETHING WHERE I KNEW WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. It’s the internet and people can think whatever they like about me, unless they have the potential to be something to me, it’s nothing more than words anyways. I’ve also flagged them at times, so I mean it is a public forum, isn’t it?
Instead I’ll just drop my reasons as to how I came to conclusions I did, and then tell you good luck kid, you’re on own as far as I’m concerned. Sorry I can’t be arsed to care if you’re having tantrums and demanding anyone read anything right now, if I’d not gotten ten messages about someone having fits about me, I’d have probably not seen this for days, cuz that’s how little attention I give to someone stamping their feet and making demands that they can’t back up. Unfortunately there is a character limit for replies, so I can only quote maybe half of the things you’ve said that have caused me to give you the advice I have- that you’ve ignored, so this isn’t even including pms.
What is the void? And how could one utilize the uncreation/deconstruction aspect of the void?
What do you mean by “her succubi”? What is a succubi? I’ve heard things about them but never knew much. Aren’t they dangerous?
Lovers? Interesting. I’m still struggling to see spirits but I should be able to pretty soon. I’ve recently developed clairsentience along with claircognizance. I’m naturally clairaudient.
Ok! I have a question. I “bought” a nympho spirit from Creepy Hollows and it literally has interacted with me at all. Not even once! If I get a incubus to replace them would it get upset?
I mean if you work with Lilith or any other dark deity you’re going to stay up very late. These deities tend to be very active in this dimension around night time. Not only that but when you work with dark deities you obtain a “fetish” for everything dark , especially the night time , so you are bound to stay up late to embrace the night.
It would really benefit you to use the search function. A lot of these questions can be answered by doing a bit of research.
I’ve been researching her and listening to her mantras for quite a while but I’ve decided I want to self-initiate myself to her. How can I do that?
You didn’t elaborate. Please do so. What next? What do I say? etc. etc.
You know how people self-initiate to Hekate , Ganesh etc etc.? How does one do that with Lilith?
How exactly would I go about doing that? Have you done it? How did you do it?
So! I just look at the sigil? Burn it? What am I to do with the sigil?. Please elaborate.
Everyone is saying use her sigil. How? Do I just look at it or do I just have it in front of me? Do I activate it? I’m very confused also I currently don’t have altar space for her and most of those offerings I’m not able to get at the moment. Also can I use tarot cards? Are you guys telling me there is no initiation ritual set in stone for Lilith?
Will I need to envision Lilith initiating me or do I simply ask her for the initiation?.
Cool! Also when I draw her sigil does it have to look PERFECT? I just ripped up the one I drew.
Thanks! If the deity I work with has a minor/obscure deity can I create a sigil for them?
When I did it the sigil began to disappear and re-appear. Also is became very zig zaggy. The paper sigil didn’t become 3d though. Also I experienced temporary darkness in which the paper became completely dark and then re-speared. Did I do it correctly?
t happened so quickly. I thought I was doing it incorrectly.
Thanks! What happens now?
I’ve already asked for initiation with his sigil but I fee I should do more. How do i go about this?
Thanks! I hope I’m not annoying anyone.
Uhm, if you are, oh well. They can ignore it, the forum is to ask questions. I just feel like you’re missing the boat on needing to have things so… laid out.
Granted I am only one out of thousands of us, but I think if you’d just let things flow- and let go of these little details that are consuming your thoughts, that even though it might seem weird or awkward, you’d find where you need to be quicker.
I know there’s a lot of paths and a lot of spirits, and it can take some time to figure out where you need to be headed, so I’d just create your own initial contact ritual, use it for each one of these and go from there. Eventually a few of them will stand out as winners to you, and you’ll likely develop a deeper relationship with them.
Generally speaking, what works for one, will work for most. The only caveat is where you need to approach a gatekeeper spirit first, like with the Loa- that is Legba. That’s the only pantheon that I personally work with that has this need, but I know there are others, just not which ones they are offhand. I work with spirits of the dead, the Loa, djinn, demons angels and a few gods- but none of the gods I work with required a gatekeeper spirit to approach respectfully.
I thought Vodun was a closed practice. How could you work with the loa?
No offense, but I’ve told people to go pound sand up their ass for shit like that. I feel like everyone’s path is their own path. I’ll give my opinion, share what I know, then whatever they do with it is their business and doesn’t effect my day, and I expect the same, or I don’t need to conversate with that person about my practices- or whatever the topic is.
Adults can agree to disagree and still conversate about it, and about other things without it changing anything as far as the relationship goes. They just don’t all realize it.
Often when someone tells you can’t work with a spirit, they’ve got religious/ dogmatic views clouding their judgement- even if they don’t realize it.
If I were to use chili pepper in my initiation ritual what could I use it for?
Yes! Basically you are saying I will gradually feel his presence whilst performing the ritual.
I plan on do several deity initiations. All that I would like to know is whether fire is necessary. If not how can I do any ritual without using fire?
Well … kinda. I was wondering if it is necessary to use candles or fire in a ritual. If I don’t use fire or candles will my ritual still be effective? If so how can I do this?
Lol yes! Why would I do so if they weren’t OK with it?
Because based on your previous threads it didn’t seem like you had contact with these deities yet to really know if they were okay with you working with all of them at once, given in most initiations it usually means working with a single entity or group for a bit before moving on to the next.
Well! I did recently use his sigil for sigil gazing and asked him to initiate me so maybe that could be the reason.
I see! That makes so much sense because ever since my initiation I’ve been seeing snake symbolism everywhere and also today I saw 5 videos about him on TikTok posted by 3 black magicians. I’ve NEVER seen any videos about him on TikTik. Also what do you mean by the conversation and how do I implement him into my life more?
How is Instagram and TikTok baneful magick and how am I supposed to become famous without using social media? I petitioned Hekate for fame and I’m not going to waste either of our time going back on it.
I’m looking to become a famous model , actor , singer (and occultist)
How should I go about it and can I use his sigil?
Uggh! How else can I practice baneful magick? People like this are easier to hex. Also if I do petition him won’t I have to burn my letter and wait a few days? I intended on doing this tonight.
Thanks! How will I know when my hex is complete and what about his spirit guides/deities/ancestors etc.? Won’t they come and attack me after I successfully hex him? What do I to avoid this?
I found this but I don’t understand it nor am I good at meditation: Mirror Shield . What else can I do
I asked him if he’d help me and I got these cards:
I think he said “Yes! i shall help you manipulate any aspect of his life you desire to cause his massive heartbreak and suffering. This will be a great opportunity for growth potential in your magickal workings. We just have to make the effects last long term.”
I’m an initiate of him and he’s been trying to get my attention all day.
Do you know of any sigil that can attract customers to a business>
VK is so awesome!
I used Apophis! I am an initiate of his.
I see! So … how do I curse with my own energy?
I also read them completely opposite from what the op felt they said, as soon as I saw them. But I figured he was set on this task, and it would likely turn out to be a grand learning experience for him, as the last card indicates.
I understand why you mean by noisiness! Whenever I speak to Apep with my cards it gets very noisy and windy. I’m not sure why. Also I want to improve my communication with him but my psychic abilities aren’t always up to par and I can use my tarot deck but like we just saw , I usually interpret them incorrectly. If you don’t mind could you please go back to what you said and bullet point all of the important information/wisdom/take-outs from what you said? I’m going to look over them today and see what it is I can improve/fix/get rid of. I appreciate you taking time out of your day for me.
I don’t want him to beg for my attention nor do i want him to feel like he’s being ignored.
What do you mean by keep doing what I’m doing? If I had books on him I wouldn’t be stressing so much.
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What do I need to know about him and how do I begin working with him? Is this something that must be long-term or what? Will I need to buy offering or will something as simple as daily communication be good enough?
If so how? I’d really like to know how just in case I can’t.
I’m not sure what you mean. A petition is simply defined as a formal request to an authority.
It can be written out or simply done verbally. Prayer is a form of petition, for example.
Yes! That’s what I mean; verbally or without anything physical,
Please dm me on Instagram if you can! I’d like to speak with you! I believe your words and I wanted to discuss somethings with you. My Instagram link is in my bio. I honestly wish BALG had an app.
I love VK Jehhannum’s content. It’s always on point. I wasn’t aware that her initiation could be that simple though. I thought you had to follow a specific initiation that had already been created. Thanks for sharing.
I’m trying to manifest a job but I don’t have a lot of spell ingredient/supplies.
So … what should I do?
I already know a lot about sigil magick! The only concern is whether a MERE sigil is powerful enough to manifest what I want.
Oh I see! Would you recommend a spirit sigil or a square sigil and if so which demon sigil should I use? Which demon is known for manifesting jobs?
What do you mean it doesn’t use the same mechanism? I know the sigil belongs to the spirit. Yes! Is it possible for me to do sigil gazing method and request something. Also do I have to draw their symbol because I find it very difficult to draw their symbols?
I see! do I have to draw the demon seal or can I use my phone? Their seals are very difficult to draw.
What do you think about using a pop culture demon like Sebastien Michaelis from Black Butler? I don’t intend on doing it but I just want your opinion.
If you work with demons don’t you become dependent on them? If not how do you avoid that?
I’m refering to scripting , 369 method , quantum jumping etc etc
I’m not sure which demon to pick. Which one should I pick?
Finding a job … I looked on the site and I saw people say Belial , Bune or King Paimon. I’m not sure which one to pick. My interview is tomorrow so I don’t have much time.
Yes! Scripting has worked wonders for me as well. When I was younger I almost manifested a million dollar house. The only issue was I had no money and I was too young to move into the house.
Do you have to be close to them or can I just ask?
I have other deities I work with but I heard demons give faster results … What do you think I should do?
Is there a limit. I of course don’t want to overwhelm myself but I just wanted to ask.
I work with chaos deities and I honestly have felt very anxious lately. I don’t know if it is because of their energy or something else. I just want to know the pros and cons of working with them just to make sure.
“God”? I’m not Christian.
I’m currently working with Set and Apep! My life was so much easier before they came into the picture.
I did! I though their chaos would destroy the things holding me back but it did the exact opposite.
Definitely not! I’m doing everything in my power to succeed. My life was a lot easier until they came into the picture. My phone has cracked , my phone and computer has began glitching , jobs haven’t been calling me back after applying and I feel anxious. None of this happened until I invited them into my life. I also feel an intense energy on my all the time.
What about the anxiety and intense energy weighing down on me everyday? What’s that gonna help me with? I’m not understanding how my life became so difficult after envoking them. I though their chaos was supposed to rid of everything keeping me back.
I see! I wasn’t aware that they shouldn’t be worked with at the same time. I hope I’m not coming off as stupid.
I see! What type deities should I begin working with then? I guess I should stop working with Vali and Susano’o as well because they are chaotic alos.
So what’s the difference between storm primordial and chaos?
Interesting! I always thought his association with storms was metaphorical.
Elementals? like the fae? Also what exactly does primordial mean and whats an example of a deity that isn’t primordial. Please give em a comparison.
Thanks! What is an example of a non primordial deity?
If they cause disorder why would anyone work with them?
True! Apep has taught me a few things and so did Set. I guess I should have set a time frame for our working.
Lol my life was stagnant. What are you talking about?
That’s not really the case because my other deities … I tend to forget to contact them as well and it didn’t start happening until I started working with Set and Apep.
I’ve tried to use crystals , meditation , sigils etc etc. Nothing is working for me. Is there a spirit I can petition or seal gaze to?
I do know that they are needed. In regards to knowing they aren’t something that’s activated what do you mean? I am developing clairsentience and when I was younger I had clairvoyance and clairaudience. I still have clairaudience but its not fully activated.
Yes! I’m refering to clairsenses. I know for a fact I’ve recently developed clairsentience. I also have had clairaudience , clairvoyance and the ability to see spirits since I was young but I lost all the abilities except for clairaudience.
Ok so how do I make my abilities stronger and or uncover the ones that I have?
OK so is there a specific way to go about it? I was looking here on the forum and it says it mostly based on imagination and visualization. Doesn’t that mean its psychosomatic?
Can I listen to the audiobook somewhere? Also how will sensing energy help me work on my other clairsenses?
UGHH … I hate my life right now. I literally have no money.
Yes! I know for a fact candle gazing helps , especially for clairvoyance and clairsentience. I don’t know how to astral project or astral travel , at least not intentionally. The black mirror I suppose is for clairvoyance and scrying. Correct?
I never said I didn’t want to buy anything. i said I don’t have the resources to do so at the moment. I of course do want and plan on buying books though.
How can I enter my astral temple if I don’t know how to astral travel?
Does Jesus even exist? I honestly want to know. Accord to scholars there is no evidenced of him ever being on this Earth.
What do you guys think ?
Please elaborate! I’m not sure who Nitika is nor did you tell me what I needed to do.
What do you mean by apply yourself and which one gives faster results?
I can’t afford any books right now and my clairaudience and clairsentience are the only Clair senses that work best. How do I summon the Goetia without an elaborate ritual or money?
I’ve created servitors before but I need something wise and ancient to help me.
Like I said I got scammed by an alleged Illuminati recruite. I gave them $70. They promised me 1 million dollars and a car of my choice. Everyone in my family is stingy and or broke. My grandfather is very wealthy but is stingy and only gives money to his wife and a grandaughter of his. Could you please do a spell for me?
I understand! Does St. Expedite require an altar? I can’t afford any of those items.
Don’t I have to buy things in order to summon an angel ?
I do have a plan. My plan is to become a rich , famous and successful singer , model and psychologist. I don’t want to to work 9-5 EVER AGAIN. That’s why I’m asking is it mandatory that I ask for a normal job first or do I ask for a LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY to invest in my future. I would ever contact any deity without a plan never again. I made that mistake with Set and I suffered because of it.
I know they aren’t wishing machines. In order to achieve these things I need money. I’ll then use my money to get in contact with the right people , relocate and invest in my career. I know they aren’t wishing machines but you said they could help me. I’m going to need all the help I can get.
Why should I set me dreams to the side for a mere job? Why not do what I can now to get me to the place that I want?
You’re telling me that in order to receive money from spirit/deity they have to watch me suffer FOR YEARS in order to give me the money I can use to get into my desired careers? I’m just trying to get my life to the best stage as quickly as possible. I don’t want to be stressed out and become discouraged over the years as I work towards what I want . I hope you can understand. I may come off as spolied but I swear I’m not.