Yep. Just another click bait title, but I’m actually going to try to answer this question today.
I get this question in my email, my balg pms, even my shop messages get lit up from time to time with someone just wanting to know why magic doesn’t seem to work.
The trouble is, it does work. It all works.
I’ve spent a lot of time, in fact most of my actual embracing this life time, testing systems of magic. Reading grimoires, then working all the way through them. In many ways I think I’ve mastered Chaos Magic’s basics- adopt the mindset along with whatever else is needed to make the system work. Believe it as long as you are in that system then move on to the next. I’ve done this, often without even meaning to, simply to try something that sounded cool, or too good to be true or just because others were getting results with it.
It all works.
So, if divination, and soul retrieval journeys, astral projection, dream walking, evocation, invocation, Enochian, and all the different types of magic you can throw into a hat then randomly pick one and know that this system is going to work, how do we sometimes not get results?
Well. But do you know what results are to begin with?
I think we mess up here as beginners and even experienced magicians quite a bit. Ask my husband, I am the first to explain spiritual weirdness away as has to be mundane because bla blah blah. Can’t be that because blah blah blah. Could be coincidence because bla blah blah.
But an over realistic mindset can limit the things you perceive and the results you receive as well. If you can’t possibly believe the boogy eyed looking demon is going to get you laid… then chances are you aren’t going to laid. For example did you work through Brand’s Success Magic and think you had zero results but over the course of working through it, you developed a relationship with a group of like minded magicians that help you and you help them? Eh… you could be seeing results if you consider the topics covered by the rituals in this book, and not even realizing it.
The other thing with results is we… don’t recognize results as results because they weren’t positive results or the result we were looking for. Did you want more money, or a pay raise- just to loose your job? We see this one quite often, but just about every single time we see it, the person is struggling to believe it happened, what did they do wrong, are the gods themselves mad at them etc… They never even realize that once they find the next job, it’s probably going to be significantly better in some way, even if it’s not in pay and it’s probably going to have the potential to be super great in the long run with the ability to move through the ranks…
Or how about wanted to kill your ex, you wanted complete and total removal from your life- just to find yourself in a homeless shelter.
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I personally counted it as not only my first working, my first working within which I got results. I didn’t expect nor want to spend 87 days in a homeless shelter… but god. My life is good now.
So first things first, be sure you’re not missing results that are blatantly jumping out in your face.
To be be clear. If pretty much all magic works, and we know what results are, what they can be, and that they may not come exactly the way want, and we still don’t have results? That means the problem is in some way related to us.
We can run through all the different little things you are doing wrong… Like did you ask for signs the angels heard you, then rush to the forum to ask everyone who did not see what you did, if it was a sign?
Coughs doubter coughs. No seriously, here’s the deal with signs. You either know deep in your soul it’s a sign, or it just probably isn’t. But these signs are still meant for you, not balg, so we can all weigh in and give our opinions and chances are you will either wind up conflicted and going back to ask for CLEAR signs, or your gut was right the first moment you saw it. This is one thing we all could do better- trust thy gut. The more you trust it the better it gets at helping you discern things, doesn’t matter if it’s magic related or not, my gut serves well in discerning what people mean in conversations, knowing what a dream means to me personally and many good things. That first initial reaction, the one that is almost embarrassing to admit, if you had to- that’s the one. Listen to it, it’s right more than it’s wrong.
I’m not going to covering lusting for results. We see that preached forwards, backwards and upside and still, the ones obsessing the most and blocking magic the hardest will tell you all about how you are wrong and they are not lusting for results, all the while asking everyday, every few days, continually getting readings etc… Yeahhhhhh not obsessing- if you say so, not my results not being had.
Okay so we know what results can be, we know not to lust, not to doubt, not to over think this shit and still we can’t get results.
Check your timelines. I know a lot of people say if you don’t give a spirit a timeline, you may or may not see anything, you may be waiting a year even, and well. I don’t use timelines unless I’m using servitors and I know about how long a similar result has taken in the past. Dude I need $350, and I need it in the next three days. The servitor doesn’t need to know why I need it, and I don’t need to know how it’s going to get it. I just need to keep my eyes open and wait. (usually comes in the form of WORK for ME to DO.)
I don’t think I need to tell you to be contentious of things can take time. That’s life and if you haven’t figured it out with the real world, I probably can’t help you figure it in regards to magic. Sometimes things are more complicated than we can even begin to comprehend, since we only have perception of some many things, and sometimes those perceptions are limited. I do the work, I know it was done, and I simply just move on and then when my results come, Oh yeah, I did blah blah the other day for this. Cool.
Other things that limit magic could involve how you are wording things. Are you giving too many checkboxes, being too specific, too demanding for the situation. For example you want true love, a faithful woman, practices magic and she should be blond with green eyes and like mountain hiking…
Or are you being too loose? I just want love, and I don’t care what it is or how it works. Well. This one has the potential to net you a looser, every single time.
We can also get into the mechanics. Are you performing the ritual by the book? Just because I have some innate knack for tossing the pieces that my discernment says aren’t necessary, doesn’t mean you should do that, especially if you can’t get magic to work at all. Most modern grimoires are written with idiots in mind. The rituals within are designed to be complete, keep you relatively safe and get you results in a somewhat timely manner.
Then there’s the kitchen sink mentality. Well. It’s been an entire 24 hours so today I’m going to call on the djinn. Tomorrow I’m going to use angels, the next day demons, Friday I’m going to try Enochian, and SOMEHOW this is all going to get me my ex back.
Man. I layer things, everything pretty much that isn’t blatant energy work and sometimes I layer that too. Doing jar work to sour someone’s life? Well, that’s a good time to tear down their protections, vamp their energy, make their communication skills fly out the window, and send them an abundance of household problems. Add it all together and whatever relationship you are trying to sour is going to be even easier to do so.
Lack of experience, impatience, lack of discernment to see results right in front of us, personal blockages created by our mind, by others- man the list of things we can do wrong in magic is ENDLESS. We might just not jive with a particular type of spirit or energy. I see people like @Dralukmun who are very good at getting to the heart of a particular persons issue and why they are struggling within a given situation, but man.
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I don’t like archangel Michael. I think he’s a cold hearted bastard… but doesn’t mean I don’t expect him to show up in my banishing rituals! Nor would I expect him to personally offer me any protection above and beyond said ritual. I just don’t- my expectation is that he will do what I called him for because I use a format that he respects, but I don’t expect him to do anything beyond that, kinda period.
I swear this is something we need to work on getting better at for ourselves- diagnosing the problems, the situation. If 2+2=5, then what are We doing wrong? Honestly developing friendships with a few people you can actually talk to, and trust is a good idea. People like @DarkestKnight @anon39079500 and @Angelb1083 for me, are those I can trust, I can speak openly too and I know if I sound a little toooooooooooooo bat shit crazy, they are going to smack me across the phase and say Wake up Keteriya. Get some friends, learn to be as dependable as you are depending upon them, to the best of your ability and life’s allowance. It will serve you well.
Have you dealt with any beliefs that were previously held, currently rejected, but still affect you?
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Originally, I was like many, Christian. My daughter still is and I encourage this for many reasons I won’t get into today, but I remember being kinda scared of demons the first time I wanted to ask one for help. What if I was wrong, and I was going to end up in hell? Well what if is how I feel about it today.
In fact, I giggle out loud ever single time I read someone go on a rant about Christianity and Jci programming and all of that. Want to know why?
I used all of those wasted years as a meatbag worshipper, where I developed a relationship with at least two different entities- as the means develop something useful. I didn’t just throw it away, though I did set it aside a few years and not realize it had any value to me. I walked away a meatbag worshipper, but I returned as a Living God- not quite what I’d call equal since I’ve got room to learn and grow, but more as a respectful individual who has outgrown what the teacher once taught and now we can collaborate to make beautiful music. (Yes I’m being corny on purpose, it’s 7 am…)
Measuring your results will serve you well, also. In this tutorial -Tutorial: How to use your Energy to Implant Thoughts and Emotions in Others in 7 Easy Steps I share a technique that I’ve used in various ways for years longer than I’ve practiced magic. When I shared it, I felt it still needed more testing and more people playing around with and many users even have commented on how it’s similar to a book and other methods and that’s great. That tells me it’s something that should work, so I’ve spent since June, measuring my results with the technique and using it on a daily basis.
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I’ve found that a much simpler technique than the one I shared works and works well. I Simply push the energy of the thought at him, and imagine it swirling around his in and outside of his head as a mist that permeates. Consistently, after two days, My husband will randomly bring up whatever thought it was that I implanted on his own- without prompting or me ever saying it out loud.
That’s cool, but what if I use the energy of an orgasm to power the thought. Wellllll fap like usual, push the thought during orgasm and… roughly 4 hours later I’ll get a phone call. Hey baby, I was thinking about you and blah blah blah
Hmm. So what if I focus on him while I fap, as the object of my desire then push the thought upon orgasm?
Well. That will net me results in about ten minutes, after I finish.
These results, are kinda worthless to anyone but me however. My target is someone close to me, someone I am intimate with, someone who has natural abilities with energy and magic themselves. This is clearly going to affect the results- but it gives me a baseline to go off of, if I ever really need to use this technique. In the mean time, well once in a while a girl wants a pizza.
Okay, I’m going to get off the ramble train now that I got all dat shit off my chest. I know I didn’t cover it all and most of it has room for discussion, debate and so on and so forth but perhaps someone will find some of it useful (Even if ya don’t find it useful, you could probably drop it as a link to the next whiner who can’t figure out their problems)