Thought I’d paste here some of my possibly over-thunk paragraphs that ramble on too long or off-topic and I end up cutting out on the re-read. Might even post some journally stuff, but I don’t know if I’m brave enough to show everybody my crazy to quite that extent.
First up, I got into my thoughts on how vampirism works, and why people wanting to be ‘turned’ are misguided… with the caveat that I might have some unpopular opinions based on my current understanding of energy work and real vampires.
If you want to take energy from another human, for one, you can already do it, you don’t need to ‘be a vampire’. All humans naturally exchange energy all the time anyway, this is normal, but you can also deliberately and with intent siphon off more, either directly or from the ambient energy of a crowds anytime you choose.
You can’t be ‘turned’ into a vampire. Real vampire will tell you this. They’re not a different species, they’re human too.
So, ok, humans generate their own energy, mostly via food and sleeping. We can gather more from the Earth, the environment, from each other, there’s a constant flow of energy in and around us. Energy from non-human sources is naturally converted to human energy as it circulates through the body.
Now, in some schools of thought, particularly Chinese Qi Therapy, vampires have broken energy generation systems - they have so much difficulty generating their own qi, that they become depleted and sick, to the point that they’ll die. Doctors can’t figure out what’s wring with them, they get diagnosed with illness after illness and treatment doesn’t help - it’s really sucks and some get actually very insulted when non-vamps ask then to ‘turn them’. Some see it as a curse.
So that is the unpopular opinion part - the ones that think they’re apex predators don’t like being told that whole healing systems believe they’re actually damaged. Sadly I’ll probably never get near enough to one to really work with their qi body to verify my teachers lessons there, but I do know I can fill a vamp with qi remotely and they feel fed for weeks - but I give that energy using qi healing techniques, so that I can fill them with more than my body will ever hold… so it can’t be taken, I’m channeling it through me from the cosmos and converting it for them as I go. They need a lot, I literally visualize a rushing aqueduct where the sickest of your average depleted people are filled up on a fire hose before it’s too much.
Anyway, to survive, no vamps have handy qi healers at the ready. Some do find Reiki helpful though. They discover that they can reach out and take human qi (“Ren Qi” - human energy/prana/life force), and since that’s already converted to human vibrations so they don’t need to convert it or generate their own. They get really good at this - they have to to live. I met one once that then also went on to learn to use ambient energy from crowds or waterfalls and such - but many psivamps find this too hard, and it did take him years of work.
- There’s a small problem with other humans’ energy - it’s imbalanced and full of crap. Always. E. A. Koetting has a yt vid up interviewing one called Charles that explains that you could feed of the Dali Lama and still need to filter it. I believe him. So as well as learning to siphon it, you also need to learn to clean it, to filter out the gross energy of disease, of unhealthy thoughts, emotions, but you might not be able to balance it to suit. For example, aware that if you take from someone who just lost someone dear, you might feel inexplicably sad, or you mind suddenly get a nasty cough from the lung qi deficiency, stuff like that. Psivamps are very careful about who they feed off for sustenance, one reason why donors are popular - you can vet them and work with them to help them make their energy right for you.
I liken it to drinking from a dirty puddle, if you are a healthy human and have the choice to get qi from literally any other source, why would you take if from humans? It’s pretty gross. Unless it’s like soda I suppose. Maybe it’s a matter of taste and being willing to take the risk and make the effort? - I don’t drink soda either though so I can’t relate.
Some people have noticed the detrimental effects of feeding, and that’s why the person being fed from is called a “victim”. This hurts people non-consensually, be aware of that with reference to your own codes. You can can sicken and kill if you do it enough. So energy stealing is also a weapon in the baneful magic arsenal. At least one sorcerer (V.K. Jehannum, I like his yt too) refuses to use willing “donors” for the reason that he’d rather hurt an enemy or stranger than someone he liked. He’s got a point, but personally, I’m a fan of donors - For the reason above, also, very often, donors get a kick out of it - fair exchange is no robbery. Thirdly, feed off the wrong person, and you might be worse than sick off their crap - they may see you, and retaliate. I do this - I take back all my energy from vamps and then double, and I may not be nice about it and I may not stop there - I tend to reflect people, angry feeders get anger back etc. You must make a link to feed, and that link goes both ways, proceed at your own risk. Maybe do a divination on your target first.
There are so many better ways to perform baneful working or cultivate qi, I simply don’t get the point of vampirism when you aren’t a vampire that literally has the choice between feed of humans or die. For the reasons above while I would use this technique, I still don’t want that yuck in me and I’d direct the energy deep into the Earth, where it will be recycled by Gaia into something else. But I find giving people rebellious qi more effective and faster (learning to heal shows you exactly how to harm).
If you want to talk to real vampires, there are online forums where they talk about all this. Drink Deeply and Dream, for example - not sure how active it is now. I was a regular years ago when Embracing Mystery was still a thing, but sometimes vamps on online forums think they can remote feed off of energy workers, and I’d get someone trying it on every time I posted. That got old and I stopped bothering to post - not actually trying to lure the inept into my evil web to hurt them more than nature already did.
If you want to play with energy work, I recommend taking a qi or prana course, and/or just asking a friend and working with them on exchanging energy to see what it feels like from both ends.
Uh, didn’t mean to ramble on that much.
(And with that, I deleted it, summarised a lot more briefly in thread and left this in notepad for a couple of days wondering if I should just not save it at all)