Opinions: lucifer is/is not satan

lucifer

#1

I ask because I see a lot of debate about it. I see where some say he is the same as Satan others say he isn’t and some even say Satan is not a real entity but is:

1.) Just a concept created by Judeo-Christianity to be a general “Devil” image
2.) A different entity entirely who is indeed evil whereas Lucifer was a bit defiant but still basically an OK guy with no real ill-intentions towards humans.
3.) Not real at all.
4.) The exact same entity as Lucifer - just a different name.
5.) The same entity as Lucifer but Satan describes a different aspect of his personality. (I have seen Lucifage described the same way.).

Opinions? I am personally leaning towards Satan being a Judeo-Christian construct and not a real entity at all whereas Lucifer is real. Not sure yet. Just leaning that way. I have never attempted to evoke/invoke Satan. Honestly I am not that attracted to the idea of contact with the entity everyone seems to describe as Satan. Lucifer, on the other hand, fascinates me.


#2

Dude, did you try using the search function before opening a thread? This has been asked and answered so many times. A simple search would have given you all the opinions you want:


#3

You forgot 6) Satan is a title borne by many.
It’ll be in the links though ^


#4

My personal opinion might not be popular, but I’ll drop it here either way… I believe “satan” same as “lucifer” is a title that many Entities carry. The ones we know as Satan and Lucifer (capitalized) come by many other names as well. I could be wrong of course, I haven’t worked much on that yet.


#5

Have a lil’ recent UPG: Lucifer is the arising spark of individuated Self-aware consciousness that is within each person (worshipping it as separate in a manner that degrades or harms another luci-containing human being is, therefore, an abomination - that’s your Luciferian Agenda? taken care of) and satan is the force of chaos that arisies when individual break free of spiritual NPC-hood working as subjects of random chance, mage-up, and start operating as conscious co-creators of their own reality.

So, Man is the candle, Lucifer is the light once lit with magickal/spiritual furt, and Satan is the black heat that affects reality as a result of that flame.


Luciferian Agenda?
#6

Lucifer becomes Satan when descends into earth and opens IT.
Is a jiggle of words really :slight_smile: to confuse the uninitiated.
Satan is the metaphor for Earth, Lucifer for Air.


#7

There are many posts for that, please make sure you search in the forum before you post!


#8

Do you manifest Lucifer and Satan as seperate distinct entities? Or do you manifest them as an aspect of the other? I do not believe there is a right or wrong answer.


#9

Normally, as different spirits. But Satan does has things in commom with Lucifer.