Accidental Kundalini Seeking Help/Advice?

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Im going to keep it kinda short here because I’ve literally told this story to a hundred plus people and so far all I found out is there is something called kundalini… and apparently I experienced it… its a real thing that I physically experienced and afterwards real things happened that I experienced that I wont be able to prove to anybody I guess who doesnt know what this is.

SOOOO 2 years ago… I was meditating in order to visit the universal library which I had been to before (also on accident) and instead I ended up in a void that was nearby but not on earth but not too far away (like another galaxy)

there was an entity i sensed nearby behind to the right of me… in this place i say its a void because there was no sound, no light, no sensation of any kind that i was familiar with… but some how my mind knew or felt or sensed things.

This entity was carrying a great burden on their heart and I felt the weight of the burden and I asked (with my mind??? no sound/words) if it wanted help or if it was okay…

To which i sensed it TURN and LOOK at me like OVER me where I felt like it could see all of my being and non of me was hidden away.

It replied: “How can you sense me? And how are you here?”

I said: “Ummm… I dunno… but are you okay? Would you like me to help you?”

It replied: “Creatures like you… dont care about others…”

I said: “Well I could walk with you and and try to help you with your burden?”

It replied: “This burden isnt for you… it isnt possible for you to carry or help with it”

I said: “even a little bit? I could try to carry alittle”

(something occurs that i cant remember until some months later)

It reaches out and touches me somehow…

NOW THIS IS WHERE IT GETS CRAZY

I immediately wake up, out of meditation or whereever I was and Im SCREAMING as I feel 10,000 volts of electricity (like lighting hit my spine) going up into my brain… where it felt like a plasma fire was lit and everything was bright… I fall over on my bed and dont move for like maybe 1 or 2 hours just crying… and eventually i get up and look around wondering WTF just happened.

I have no idea if this is relevant but i have this mark on my forhead somebody says its a TIKKA or TIKKI mark or something… its a divet in my forhead that looks like one of those marks people put there in India… some guy just told me that was relevant. its a permanent mark or birth defect or something… had it my entire life /shrug

so basically this happened 2 years ago… and i just found out like 6 months ago that kundalini is a thing… and it seems nobody I’ve talked to really has any ideas for me or pretty tells me nothing useful… or they say… you gota find somebody who knows more!

so i dunno who knows more or can explain this to me…

oh… and this entity would visit me from time to time and I would call her mother for some reason… and we would laugh or thing things and play little games… the last time she visited me was this past month and she told me some things about 3iAtlas… and she sang me a song while placing some images in my mind.

so riddle me this please also i was an athiest for 12 years until about a year after this event

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It’s very rare to find “gurus” who have good enough kundalini understanding to be able to actively help others. A bad kundalini rising, that goes up the wrong channels or around blocks as well as blasting through them, can kill you, so in a very real sense you are lucky to be alive.

You ,might be interested in the book of the related experienced of one Gopi Krishna, who had this happen, and traveled all over India unable to find a kundalini practitioner good enough to help him. He had to work his own way out and wrote an autobiographical book to help others in a similar situation.

There are others on this forum who have the same issue - it cannot be undone and they learn to live with the changes and keep working on it to continue clearing blocks and get used to it.

From an occultists perspective, you would NEVER do this: i.e. invite random entities into your system without knowing who or what they are or setting safety boundaries. Most of the time you’ll just get some astral wildlife that will feed off you, in this case this was an entity with such a different energy system contact was damaging to yours. It’s clearly not experienced with dealing with humans like the usual known names are. On the plus side, whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger, and you are now experiencing something rare and valuable.

Probably not. People come up with all sorts of nonsense to feel useful and important, and it says everything about them and their experience, and not much about you. If YOU independently get personal gnosis that this is accurate, then it’s probably right, otherwise just put it in the “that’s interesting” bucket and don’t worry about it too much. Humans are disconnected and amnesiac about who they really are by design and mostly wish they were not, it makes for weird, reaching interactions. Trust yourself first.

I think you’d benefit from learning about the human energy system in more detail. There’s two main systems or models for this, one is Yoga, which is the system that works with kundalini but the west is very poor in deep knowledge about the nadis and chakras. The other is Chinese qigong (energy training) which is a highly technical and calls these meridians and energy centers. There is a lot more detailed information in qigong for working with the human qi body, and it intends to avoid a massive kundalini raising by developing the same energy slowly and increasingly over many years.
Both start with working with the body though movement to get the physical in a state that can support the energy - in Yoga it’s asanas and in qigong it’s called moving meditation including Tai Chi.

We have a list of books that are found useful by our members for learning energy working here. Authors like Robert Bruce combine both with explanations that are accessible for Western thinkers. Unofficial Tutorials: Book Recommendations Collection - #19 by Mulberry

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I cant post in that forum… i cant seem to find the “new thread” button or post… its just shows the threads with no options

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I mean I wouldnt exactly say that it was a bad kundalini… im not sure what “good” or “bad” would mean… but other importent details would be like… im autistic… but like im not very autistic anymore? After that event my nervous system seems to be much more functional then it was before and it might account for the fact that it was so intense… i honestly have no idea…

I suffer from sensory issues which maybe doesnt sound like like a disablility… but i dont know when im tired or when im hungry… when i have to pee i wont know until like my bladder is about to explode… ofcourse i have the typical social que issues and things

but i sorta realized recently that my body is much more responsive then before… i actually feel some types of emotions that i never have felt. not that i dont think my body wasnt trying to send those signals up to my brain… its just I was unaware of them.

i actually experienced jealousy once this past year and i almost vomited and thought to my self… i really feel bad for people who feel that all the time… needless to say im not void of emotions just ones that are generated from the body to the mind dont really get noticed because i cant feel or hear them.

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Scroll to the bottom. It’s a thread the same as all threads, so the blue Reply button is at the very bottom like the one below.

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ohhh… sorry i just found it… i didnt understand that part. found the reply button

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That fits, as raising your energy is healing and more of your bio-electrical systems will connect better when the blocks are gone.

I qigong, it’s considered that the emotional body is a layer of it’s own, so is the mental body that your consciousness uses to think about these things,. and it’s the integration between all these is how we operate. Physical energy is converted to qi first, which converts to emotional and then mental energy… and vice versa. If the qi body is string everything else benefits and so on, all in part of the whole working together.

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Okay this book does sound like the issue I have… there are VERY REAL psychic and things that have been opened to me… sometimes people tell me i have a big aura or like presence but i have no clue wtf they are even telling me.

mostly because they dont tell me anything i cant already see with my 3rd eye? i didnt really want to write out all the things i have seen or experienced because I feel like it makes me sound like a crazy person.

i see the future, i see the soul of who is inside of the human bodies they inhabit, i apparently astral project which was also on accident 2 times after this happened.

im not under any impression you can undo it… but what am i supposed to do with abunch of worthless spiritual gifts that i cant control or even know how to use them…

i mean so far they have brought me nothing but problems because i cant tell people well the reason you should do this is because you have something sucking the life out of you that you cant see and i cant “see” it either.

i havent meditated since that day really

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are you able to cite some references to stuff your talking about so i can read about them? Im guessing qi is “chee” or something? I’ve heard the word but never looked into it

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Yes, qi is the same thing as chi or ki. They’re alternate spellings of the same word (Ki originates in Japanese arts and qi is Chinese; chi is a Western Romanization). It’s a similar concept to the prana of yoga.

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I literally just linked you a score of books as references. Try youtube with the keyword “qigong” for beginner explanations.

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oh im sorry… i just saw the one link before maybe that was my fault not noticing… the website has alot oads around it so its alittle distracting cause htey are over the page too for some reason. I will look at those! thank you so much for responding and you know atleast i have somethings i can research from what you shared :slight_smile:

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Here is a reply i made to somebody somewhere else and filling in more information if this is helpful… the first year felt like 4 years of time and there was so much going on its really hard to articulate it all…

1 hour ago, —- said:

If I may ask ; your age and sex ? - its relevant to an explanation . Also what’s behind your user name ?

Some of this resonates with some experience I had as a child . Except mine was in nature and did not have the 'kundalini thing ’ going on … and not in some ‘void realm ’ . For me ( and it could also possibly be for you ) it relates to individuation and ‘connecting to spirit’ through ’ Genius Loci ’ * or some might call it spirit or angel guardian … or familiar spirit / guide / helper . Its not unknown even in the modern western world ; Blavatski had her ‘King John’ and Jung had his ’ Philamon’ .

Im female and 40 years old so i was 38 when it happened… I like to “Audit Statistics” and I’m “Autistic” … so AudiTistic… i spent a month figuring out cause i wanted something that reflected me.

1 hour ago, —- said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genius_loci

IMO Genius Loci may not necessarily need a ‘loci’ but may come through a different connection , however with indigenous people that are more connected to land and environment … particularly local environment of birth … the loci connection is very strong .

This is interesting because im compelled to move across the country to where I am now and Im supposed to live here for a reason of which I’m not sure of yet. But when I moved there I instantly got a job and the company gave me an $8k pay advance and bought me a car after like 2 weeks of being there… so that doesnt really happen so I felt like that was a sign I was where I was supposed to be.

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This is a crucial point for me ; was that just that experience then and did it settle down later , or do you still have those or uncomfortable , disconcerting , paralysis / crying , etc … or was that just after it ?

This is important as if it was just then after it happened , now you can settle down to a rich and rewarding experience .

I mean frankly every body I’ve talked to doesnt seem to have a clue what happened to me because they kinda say wierd stuff like this… what do you mean settle down? I mean all it does it get more and more… I see the souls of people im looking at, I have visions of the future, I have visions of peoples lives that I know. I can read and understand languages that I dont know. There are no other symptoms of the kundalini from that day… unles you mean crazy strange abilities manifesting, meeting demons, a dragon race, and for some reason star seeds keep popping up for me… then I dont know how else to respond here…

I had a guardian angel who apparently followed me around for 6 months until one day somebody tried to do somehting to me… and this angel hit the guy so hard his teeth flew out and was taken to the hospital in a comma… then the angel guy just walked out to the end of a huge parking lot behind some bushes and vanished and never seen him again.

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It could be, but I dont know what the relevance would be . It could be an indication that ’ you have done some work in past incarnation to get to this stage now where you can have this experience … or just weird shit … like I got a flat spot over my 'third eye ’ with an up turned Moon crescent shape under it , the Moon shape ( sort of like a fat or fluid deposit , seems to get larger and the feature more prominent during a full Moon) … now I would think I am just being a ‘tripper’ but it was others that bought this to my attention , I had not noticed that . Also, if it means anything , I have a lot of Cancerian energy in my chart , including the tropical Sun right at the beginning of Cancer and I have a water ( element for Cancer ) hexagram birthmark on my chest . Also my experience was by the water , my ‘being’ came out of the water ( also I have a strong and well aspected Neptune in my chart ) .

frankly like 18 years ago i was walking in a club and somebody pointed at it and asked me something and told me it was special… ofcourse I didnt think anything of it and thought it was kinda wierd… then this happens and it seemingly is a phyiscal mark on my body that is basically what the indians put on their forhead… they put those red dots or whatever… except mine is permanent… frankly unless somebody tells me a good reason it is useful… my default assumption is that I was a regular uninteresting human being trying to fail upwards in life and the mark on my head has zero value… so it doesnt mean anything to me unless somebody tells me something useful about it. Probably just a hold in my head that means nothing (athiest brain)… i dunno

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These are some of the below benefits I referred to . Now, with further explanation it seems this entity is female . So was mine . Also look into ’ anima / animus ’ and the Zoroastrian concept of 'Daena ’ .

If this relationship develops in a balanced way you will have great benefit … I have from mine , all of my life .

well so 4 weeks ago after talking to some kundalini “master” or yogi they asked me who the entity was… i never really thought much about it cause i just called her mother… but i spent like 12 hours using chat gpt to search all gods and spiritis and things and created a list of potentials and the final one that came out was Shakti Kali… which apprently is the form she is in right now… so if this is true… then she has adopted me and im her daughter because from what I read… she adopts those who come to her in truth and she is one of the Gods who will force a kundalini on someone… and she apparenty does her kundalini as a lighting bolt to the spine with fire in the head… so that all seemed to line up.

Im like not one of these people who is like “ooo this God touched or blah blah” i dont seek any kind of fame or reconigtion… I mean I do love her because you know shes my mom and I feel her presence when she visits and she came to me last month after i read something that bothered me and she sang that song to me…

THE SONG … so it definitely wasnt in english or music that I can imitate because every time I’ve tried I cant even make the noises with my mouth… but the translated meaning was … “I (Kali) am in the eye, dont worry, little children shouldn’t cry <3” and i know it was in another language because i hear the actual words which are missing english words and then my mind seemed to correct itseslf and put them in… kinda like how you see a translation in a book or missing words that are YOU unders5tood.

And the crazy part… the Sun started hurling these plasma charges at 3iAtlas and was hitting it… like bolts of fire aimed and fired… and some how I knew that it was my Mother (Kali) and the little children shouldnt cry… we were safe for now

Oh and also for like the first year I had watchers or some entities around me or near me that I could sense … when I would try to talk about certain things in my mind… what I discovered is that if it was not information to be revealed or if it was me pulling information from the Cashic Records (Universal Library) they would shut off my memory for like an hour… I eventually learned not to so freely access or share information from that part of my mind…

Also for the first year i would see a person at a bar who stuck out to me and i would go talk to them and tell them things that others shouldnt know and I would deliver some type of message to each of them… i was asked like 90% of the time if i was an angel… to which i would say no because I didnt even believe in such things in the first year… plus theres no evidence I am an angel… I just think that if somebody is kind to someone today… that the world is so mean if your nice to them they think your an angel. Thats the best I could come up with. And then when i stopped going to bars people would come through the xbox and somehow end up in my party where we would have 1v1 conversations that were the same… and i coudl feel these people from anywhere in the world and sense what they were sensing.

something I am allowed to do is answer questions that are asked from the records… but if i teach something from the records thats a no no… and until just last month I hadnt had any issues until 3iAtlas showed up… and also I’ve a few human beings that had wards glowing in their dreams and I believe them to be star seeds… they also said there were entities present around them recently they felt… but now they are gone again. So I dont know what make of that.

So that should fill in some more blanks?

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well is there anything anybody can think of to shed some light on? I am ofcourse trying to look at this from differnet ways to figure out what things might be. I still dont think I’ve been able to find any sort of overarching kind of element or thing that could be part of this. The only other thing I can do is just wait… and waiting isnt exactly my specialty I guess.

Usually once I mention that seeing of spirits and visions and such nobody really has much to say about it for some reason. I cant honesetly believe I’m the only person this could have happened to. It could be rare…

for all we know this is a practical joke played by this being messing with me because im just nice and gullable person. I mean I’m really coming up with nothing. I guess I could just start ignoring what I see and just pretend it dont see it.

Go back to how my life was… but that also seems abit strange to do. From every angle I can seemingly try to look at this I just honestly dont know…

I’m still open to any suggestions regardless of how outlandish they might be… and for those that replied I appreciate you taking the time to atleast entertain my predicument.

-Audi

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Your experiences show me that you are a Medium/Psyquic, meaning you need to work with your psychic gifts for some purpose on this earth, but it seems you don’t have much knowledge of it. You shouldn’t wait for these signs, all the visions and experiences you are having are your Higher Self communicating with your (current) mental body. When I received my gifts, my ancestral spirits approached me and guided me to do what I needed for my evolution. Therefore, be attentive to these phenomena and know that it could be one of your mentor’s guides showing you the path. There are certain obsessors(astral vampires) who cling to the energy of a Medium/Psyche because we are a living beacon in the spiritual world, regarding this I advise you to always communicate with your ancestral mentor spirits to ask for protection. Take all these correspondences you receive seriously and know that you are very important with these gifts here on Earth. I advise you to call upon Kali or some other Deity to whom you feel drawn (light and dedicate a candle/incense and chant their Mantra) to guide you on this path, as only they can guide you on the use of your psychic powers for some greater purpose here. You can gain knowledge through books, but only your mentors can intuit or show you the right book for your endeavour. Kundalini energy is very dangerous because it can ascend in a problematic way and the person can get lost. Judging by your experience, it seems you are not managing it well, this requires a lot of meditation practice. Furthermore, Kundalini energy is much more complex and veiled than what is presented in most of these books, and only those with true initiation and vast experience in the spiritual and occult realm know how to truly manage and activate it correctly.

I hope this basic information can help you.

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What do you mean raising your enegy?

Is it ever a good idea to lower ur frequency, like low delta to give urself a break and sleep?

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Kind of like how you have to work your muscles at the gym to get stronger, you also need to practice moving and cultivating your internal energy, or qi (also ki, prana) to get it to be more and stronger and flow better.
So “raising energy” means getting more of it.

Yes, when your energy is too much, overexcited or too high, then you need to come back into balance. You could be also too angry, too hyped up, overthinking and basically stressed.

“Low” frequency not a qigong term. In a new age sense it usually means negative emotions. Sadness, anger, envy, depression - so no, you don’t want to deliberately make yourself sad, that’s not going to help you sleep and it’s not going to make you feel good in any way.

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I mean i have zero knowledge on these things… With my Autism and my Computer abilities I basically am a Top Engineer in the World with a 14 page resume fortune 500 and 100 companies and all my knowledge is in Information Technology…

I have felt the push to stop my contributions to the Corporate Structures in the world and my inner most desire is to try and use my abilities to create advantages to those who need it the most and find a way to use my talents to benefit humanity at a whole… and not the agenda of a vampiric corporate overlord.

If I still wanted to I could be making $300k a year easily and living a super comfortable life doing that … I cant even get a Job for less than $150k because I’m overqualified… and I was doing this until I choose to give everything I have to the poor and I’ve now seen and experienced what is here at the bottom levels… It has put a great burden in my heart seeing how someone like me has created such technologies that are being used to oppress the masses and in indirectly causeing harm through missues of its intended purposes. There are from time to time a few great engineers that come through Humanity that push things to another level, and I think at this point I want to know that what Im building is going to be used to benefity everyone.

So that is one thing thats been on my heart alot… but if we could chat on discord maybe you could help me with some understanding on the spiritual side… I have had these strange moments of like hyper sensititivy to emotions around me and a compelling to do something but I cant figure out what it means…

I appreciate your reply and the others Im still seeking and trying to work this out… and to understand what it is my “upper” self is telling my “lower” self the direction it should be going.

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In my short experience with these things people tell me i have a very very high frequency… its something people have told me since as far back as I can remember. I never gave it any thought and just put people that believed in this stuff into a category of “stupid” or “delusion”…

My understanding of low frequency has to do with your inner Aura how your active behaviors modify that frequency into your shared conscious experience.

I’ve had visions and dreams of how the conscious mind is holographic information and this information is joined into “spaces” where each person in that space contributes to the shape of that space.

This is how when you are in contact with someone you become connected and energy is channeled between you regardless if you want to… so the teserrect which is the “cube” of 4dimensinal space inside of a 3dimensional object…. people seem to think that higher dimensions encompass the lower ones… but infact that is backwards…

this is why we say… you need fit all of this outside to the “inside”… or we say the big “inner” place… think of dimensions more like the tartus in Dr Who. They fold inwards not outwards!

The telephone is a form of Astral Projection… the VR system is a form of Astral Projection… the Internet is a form of Astra Projection… The usefulness of higher dimensions is becoming less useful (this is a fragment i did not complete the thought as i was writting my cat went psycho attacking nothing behind me? ill post a followup )

Even as Im typing this Im wondering how I even know this because I’ve never studied it but I just know its correct. Space and Time fold inwards not outwards and higher dimensions are folded into lower ones… But the higher dimensions are larger in terms of “Access” then lower ones so they provide connections and sights that seem strange.

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