Evocation Of The Book New Avatar Power

(2019 edit: hello, person who found this via search engines, I wish to let you know that a member on here @emperor is doing some stirling work on this book, please read his topic, it’s going to be far more useful to you than mine: The Miracle Of New Avatar Power, revisited)

June 2014 old post resumes:

Well, I am what the hippies used to call “royally bummed out” by this one – I thought I’d follow up my evocation of Evoking Eternity with something a bit more light-hearted and fluffy, since I managed to royally offend and piss off that tome.

‘Twas not to be – UPG warning, the following was only my experience and shouldn’t be taken as more than that.

Plan

I had been planning for a few days to evoke the spirit of the book The Miracle Of New Avatar Power – I intended to ask it five or seven questions, of which the following were the first three, and then to base my subsequent questions on answers from those:

  1. Why do your spirits work so well in the accounts and yet desperate people now can’t seem to get results?

  2. Why did GG-C renounce this type of work and go to work with angels?

And most importantly

  1. Can you please give me ONE new incantation that people can use with a spirit who will bring only auspiciousness and joy?

I set up my wooden altar which has a pentagram on one side, and a seven-pointed star on the other, to the east, and placed my copy of the book on the altar, and cleansed and banished, did my usual prep.

I’ve used this altar since I was into the love & light stuff and it’s a solid bit of gear, and I placed it east since the north’s sacred to my ancestral gods and the south is commonly used for demonic evocation, which makes more sense in my head probably than it looks typed out.

GG-C used a hodge-podge of various entities and godnames in Hebrew, and in my symbol system, east is for new life.

I called forth the entity, asking it to sign its name by showing me its cover above the actual book, which I wasn’t really looking at. I wasn’t using incense as a base since that messes with my sinuses, I was using clairvoyant sight, which has been completely reliable in the past since I was a kid.

When this cover image was received, like a retinal afterburn, and my own spirits confirmed it, I was set to ask my questions, when the spirit spoke first.

After showing me the cover with that weird target-like logo, it changed and looked like a small oval fireball of white, yellow and slightly violet fire, spinning horizontally as the earth spins on its axis – but it was not a happy spirit to be summoned thus.

Evocation Q & A

NAP Spirit: What do you want (in a voice and demanour that was sleepy, dusty, dead tired)

Eva: Are you a dead book?

NAP: No, but my time is gone, there will be others greater before me and after me.

At this point I need to make a note – I did both audio capture, and also typing answers with my laptop on my knees, and I had – I shit you not – begun typing certain words backwards by this point – the response, “others greater before me and after me” was typed as “others retaerg erofbr and tfare me.”

Everyone does typoes, but what’s ODD is that even in partial possession with Ahriman, I never did anything consistanly backwards, like a Hollywood movie’s conception of the diabolic.

What’s also interesting is that, as this continued during the evocation, the backwards typing only applied to concepts of time and not to nouns, pronouns, etc. This could have been typoes, I don’t rule that out, but it was very consistant, so, offering it as an observation, nothing more. To continue:

Eva: Do your rits still work?

NAP: Yes, they work well, nonetheless I am tired. (“am” was “ma”)

Eva: Am I evoking just my edition of NAP?

NAP: No, it is true of all of us, the spells fail and the miracles cannot be repeated.

Eva: Why is this?

NAP: Your time has come, the new children, the… living god. (During this bit I felt the book sending feelers into my mind for the concept “living god” it can convey – I don’t think it was specifically about this site or the works of EA, it felt like it was trying to talk down to me almost, about what it wanted to say. And still so very, very, tired and dusty.)

Eva: People love you – please, give me something new to use?

NAP: You each have within you the scrying mirror, the wishing well, it is too late to break new grounds… I bid you adeiu.

That exuent itself felt like something hurriedly hacked from my own vocabulary, and the spirit seemed so damned tired, that I gave it leave to depart, and typed this up.

I’m disappointed – NAP is a much-loved book, and a lot of its content is excellent, and I’d hoped to find a lively bright consciousness who’d maybe share some cheeky new techniques, stories, or otherwise be interesting.

What I found was a spirit as weary and dusty as a ghost, and a lot less motivated to be heard.

I realise this is UPG plus the simple fact of a grown woman talking to a book, so, take it for what it’s worth, and if you’re getting results from NAP then you evidently tapped into one of the vital currents left which relate to the spirits it called, and I’m sure there are some.

I’d be interested if anyone here repeats this exact evocation of the same book at some point?

That was crappy though, and I’m only posting it in case someone here is struggling to understand why NAP isn’t delivering for you – it describes itself throughout as a book for people in dire need, and to hear it’s taking the book equivalent of retirement into dust is sad, in every meaning of that word.

I think some of the spirits within are legit and had a result with it myself, but perhaps its time we took its advice and looked deeper within ourselves for information.

Anyone else owned/worked with/evoked this book recently?

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This is such a badass concept.

Ideas: The Satanic Bible, Key of Solomon, Dantes Inferno, Epic of gilgamesh, The superior secrets of Satan (Alleged book of spiritual secrets blank paged until they are scryed into, described in Spider & GB (warning: vodoun connection, so maybe not this one without divination if the current will consenf to it.)

good job lady eva.i’m trying to make it work for over a year now.i had some minor results with nitika but that’s all.one time i felt labezerin’s current but no luck was manifested.i mean i didn’t won anything at all.
i felt arzel also but i banished imediately because i was ready to vomit…
so in general this book didn’t work so far the way i wanted…

I’m hoping to evoke Baneful Magick next… I realise this stuff is pretty far-out even by my standards, but what’s remarkable is that the two books so far have had distinct personalities, so I’m reasonably sure I am evoking something significant - and neither evocation turned out anything like I’d expected, either, so that’s another thing that makes these feel like “real” spirits.

I was sad how NAP turned out… Evoking Eternity was sassy and very much alive though, so I’m hoping Baneful Magick will be the same.

The purpose of this is that I’m very much hoping to be able to find at least one book that will give me an additional spell or chant or something that I can share and that other people can verify as effective, because that would open up the possibilities of evoking lost books at some point, but I want more proof than just the two less-than-spectacular evocations I’ve done before I’m going to invest any faith that it’s possible.

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Wonder what would happen if you evoked the goetia.

@lady eva.
what incantantions have worked for you from this book? (NAP)

@lady eva.
what incantantions have worked for you from this book? (NAP)

The Nitika chant brought me enough money to buy the book, and I’ve used a few of the ones that aren’t about money for various things with some limited success, but I mainly found the book useful in adapting and creating my own methods.

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The author did not mention this explicitly,
but this book is companion to another called “The Mystic Grimoire.”

Also, in NAP, there is a spirit called Arzel who is the “psychopomp” or intermediary to the spirits Shemhamphorash. You first make a connection to this spirit; then once established, continue working with the others.

It’s similar in this way to the GrimoriumVerum.

Good point, I remember that from years ago when I first had it and worked through it avidly. I read a PDF of the Mystic Grimoire years ago, but could never find a hard copy that was any kind of reasonable price.

Next time I have space and energy, I may try calling on that spirit for more enlightenment. This is an exploratory and experimental work with the ultimate purpose of finding ways to access lost grimoires, I’m currently paddling in the kiddie’s end of the pond, so I’ve now added “evoke/contact guardian spirits first” to my list… cheers. :slight_smile:

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By “coincidence” I just acquired an excellent hardback physical copy of NAP as a library discard that was a LOT cheaper than what it typically goes for and strangely had no markings in it at all, just the call letter sticker on the spine.

My first experiments with NAP were similarly disappointing, which was weird to me because I knew I was connecting to the spirits - the impression was too strong. One thing I know I don’t like is the use of GD-style rituals for charging, which in my experience choke “low magic” instead of empowering it.

The reason I got it was because I really like this book, the attitude it takes, and I think there should be more books out there like it, only more powerful and mature. The only equivalent is the Necronomicon Spellbook, which packs a stronger punch, no doubt due to the caliber of the magician who wrote it.

But when I have the time I"m going to try and talk to the spirits in the book, particularly Arzel - none of the spirits in there are unique to NAP, in fact some of them are notoriously powerful - particularly the Angels called on in the curses. I think it would be really great to rework NAP into something more powerful.

I’m wondering what would happen if you replaced the usual starter rituals with energy-raising, watchtowers, etc.

That would be really, really excellent - before I saw Student of Goetia’s post, I was thinking of independently contacting each of the entities in turn to see what was happening. I may still do that but start with Arzel in particular, and see what that spirit has to say about the whole thing.

My over-riding impression is that the book, as opposed to its spirits or other aspects, has become rather like an oil-well, clogged with sediment (maybe egregoric from the various people who’ve drifted into the occult, played with it, and then moved on) and that there is still a vital well to be had beneath this layer of detritus.

Also if people were skimming straight to the chants without doing some of the other stuff, it’s possible they steadily created egregoic versions of the original spirits, which subsequent uses layered on… I don’t know, just shooting out some ideas there, but I think there’s some possibility left in revamping GG-C’s original work and also his original concept for it.

Someone posted on here before I joined about the dangers of repeating a spell that doesn’t work for you, and that’s also part of what I’m thinking may have caused the weird reaction I got from its spirit.

Fates willing, I’ll update this thread if/when I do any work related to it, and if you feel like comparing notes please post your own, and that goes for everyone else who wants to get involved on this project regarding NAP?

The author did not mention this explicitly,
but this book is companion to another called “The Mystic Grimoire.”

Also, in NAP, there is a spirit called Arzel who is the “psychopomp” or intermediary to the spirits Shemhamphorash. You first make a connection to this spirit; then once established, continue working with the others.

It’s similar in this way to the GrimoriumVerum.

i’ve tried to approach labezerin independently and it was very intense…but with no results.
on the other hand,i did the same with grimorium verum and it was successful.i approached minoson just with his sigil and i had responce the same day.

sometimes reading posts on balg is just WOW.i mean where else you can read about evoking book spirits?

FUCKING UNIQUE

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i was told when i got a copy of the janu grimoires to make two copies, and burn one while conjuring it to release its power in the astral. i did that and it was pretty powerful.

i conjured all of the spirits of the grimoire, and then burned the grimoire in a symbol of releasing their power from the pages to symbolize their reality as forces in my life and their freedom from dead letters on print.

later on i did the same with a copy of the goetia and again it had effects in the atmosphere.

if the idea makes any sense to you you may want to try it. be careful, though. it takes a long time to burn a book and fire hazards apply at all times

arzel aka arzl is one of the four spirits in the eastern subquadrant of the eastern quadrant of the enochian table of elements. the other four spirits in the eastern/eastern part of the table are rzla, zlar, and larz and the name of god that rules over all of them is erzla.

maybe if you feel like contacting arzel, command him in the name of erzla, or go the whole hog and contact him and the other spirits of the eastern/eastern part of the table according to the enochian method laid out by lon milo duquette in his book enochian vision magick.

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Brilliant! I was thinking of evoking the Game of Thrones books recently, any advice?

Yes: George R. R. Martin is not your bitch.

You will go far with this wisdom, young padawan…

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I’m far from a “young padawan”, but nonetheless, it seems fun.

the rogue hypnotist is good stuff :c)

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Ya no, actually you were right on back then @Lady_Eva .

I found at the time that doing by-the-book conjurations with the NAP gave me piss-poor results. At the time, Damon Brand had begun publishing rituals based on NAP, and when i tried them, they didn’t work for me either.

If you remember how much i used to complain on the board, now you know why i was so ornery. The spirit that told you NAP was tapped out was RIGHT! I directly challenged that at the time and wouldn’t take no for an answer. NAP was not getting the job done for me, and i needed it to work. The tank was just on E, and i couldn’t get past that for a long time.

Lateral thinking, further study, and a lot of failed experiments got me past that hump, so i continue with the work, but it took a lot of failure and humiliation to get the NAP going again.

Why Geoff Left Dodge
As far as Geoff is concerned, in his later years i know he kind of disowned NAP, and i think i figured out why.

The truth of NAP is it’s very elaborate, but the elaboration is stacked on one part of magick, leaving the other parts largely unattended.

The Law Of Attraction explains occultism in a way that leaves no room for doubt. All of magick is built up on 3 principles: Focus, Ask, and Receive.

When you strip your magick down to the root elements and simplify everything, you’re left with what you want, the way you ask for it, and the reality of whether you received it or not.

I think at some point in his life, Geoff realized that he only needed to focus his mind and ask his own subconscious or Higher Self to bring him what he wanted, and then receive it with no internal conflict.

I also believe when he did this, he found to his surprise that it worked just as well as the crazy elaborate shit he did in the Golden Dawn and Thelemic lodges.

I know he taught this new realization in the 90s, but it most likely fell on deaf ears, because we as human beings are addicted to struggle and love the idea of having to suffer to get things.

When Cobb realized having your wish fulfilled was easy and uncomplicated, with no adverse blowback, i believe he began disowning the need for NAP with its Judeochristian trappings.

He cut out all the middlemen and went direct to his own subconscious mind and Higher Self.

It worked just as well for him.

However, the rest of us still need to come to the same conclusion as he did. So we continue to work the grimoire, hoping yesterday’s technology will solve today’s problems.

In the spirits’ defense…
Maybe the spirit of the book was telling you in its own way that we don’t need NAP anymore now that we have the Law of Attraction to guide us. LOA is a better moustrap than NAP, which was revolutionary back in the 70s, but is a bit of an anachronism in 2019/2020, let’s keep it real.

Also, it takes creativity to use magickal grimoires properly. I think the spirit of the grimoire was warning you that they’re tired of being called on by dullards. No offense to anyone who was using NAP in 2014…but yeah.

You know, spirits also want a little respect and maybe a relationship. They don’t seem to take kindly to being used and discarded like old condoms or toilet paper.

Maybe the spirit of the book was just being cranky after years of abuse.

Spirits PMS too, bc humans are a fucking headache sometimes.

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