Honestly every topic ive read on this forum gives a different answer each time or something im not looking for, I want to strengthen my astral projection and strengthen my magick so I can form relationships and communicate with demons more vividly(ik they are at work just a personal thing Id like) I want to hear feel and be able to visualize them but I’m a newbie and not ready for that yet i assume, so I want to strengthen that so I can communicate and build relationships with them. Also so I can communicate with them using more methods like sigils and blood involving methods(I read blood is not a safe thing to use if you are just starting out and I Don’t remember the reason). What should I do guys? Books to read, videos to watch, anything helps. Been obsessed with working with demons when I was little(even tried doing it in random ways 
) but now that its actually in my hands I want to learn EVERYTHING I can about it. This just the start of my journey guys. This forum is amazing.
For forum free stuff we have member-given tutorials of what has worked for us:
You’ll want to get your spiritual hygiene sorted out, and start work on developing your astral senses.
Then when you can know you have a decent chance at avoiding impostors and parasites then try the first contact guides we have on here.
By and large they’re all right. For the same reason I already told you.
At this point, you have probably too many options and you can’t do all of them at once. It doesn’t matter where you start. What you need now is to practice using ANYTHING to exercise comms with your subconscious.
Pick something, anything, and start. A journey of 1000 miles starts with the first step. You’re not on that path until you stop armchair reading and start doing.
Okay, ill follow those steps, you’re right lol im armchair reading, im gonna start reading and get my spiritual hygiene sorted out. Yeah I’ve had that problem tho, overthinking and never trying. Worried about doing it right and thinking and wasting thought so I can get results I want rather than trying to get it. Thats my biggest problem I need to get over. Thanks Mulberry I’m starting now. You’ve been a big help and helped kickstart the biggest turning point of my life.
Hey Mulberry, quick question; Is there a demon I can summon that can help change my mindset for the better like being ok with being misunderstood or perceived in the wrong manner or like just being more prouder of your self yk? Ive been trying for so long to let go of that part of me but cant seem to let it go and I want some sort of assistance. Or just a mindset of confidence and dignity or just better than my shitty mindset
I like Belial for this, but the above post also looks likely a good fit.
honestly everything hes saying is literally what I struggle with, unfortunately I havent really summoned demons with sigils so ill have to look into that.
But when he says this, is he implying that even if I dont know truly the mindset I need to succeed, hed help me with that?
Im gonna try my best to ask for everything in that thread and also kinda shape it with my musical desires, but honestly I think it already does its kind of a general thing right?
You ask then what you want, they can put you in situations the only way to go through is being the person you want to be, they can also rewire your brain…. Everything is possible
If you want to learn to astral project, I highly recommend the BALG soul travel course. It has everything you need, including studying in the astral with ascended masters.
ok ill find it and do that course. from what ive read its paid, cant do that rn so ill probably pick whatever information i can grab from this forum
okay ill probably look through that post u sent later tonight, also will learn how to summon using sigils
hey mulberry, do you think Quareia is a good way to start from scratch. I feel like Im moving to fast with things and i saw ur message from 2018 saying this is a great place to start, you still think so?
Edit: im definitely using this, probably gonna ask this one demon that can help me retain info better and learn faster. Would that offend anyone or anything in some way? Like using a shortcut to learn something sacred faster?
Yeah it’s a solid and complete course, it’s totally free, self serve and go at your own pace, and I like that it brings in elements often neglected in the modern grimoiric approach, namely working with energy and the spirits in the land as well as ancestors and ghosts, and how to navigate these inner landscape and stay safe. It IS highly symbolic with a very distinct worldview, but as you get into it you can make parallels to other worldviews, and it works very well, which is the main thing. 
Okay thanks, but also my parents are highly religious christians, they have some jesus pieces and christianity related pieces around the house, none in my room at all but do you think that would stunt rituals/ reaching out to demons?
Guys, I feel like magick wont work in my favor and thats my issue, that I won’t get what I’m looking for because I haven’t seen others talk about their experiences or how they did it relating to my desires, and the person I am, I find it hard to believe without some sort of proof or anything or if I don’t feel like i’m doing it right, I won’t try. I want a clear sign but I don’t want to demand anything of demons, I want to believe but I find it hard to, how can i shift my mindset because I feel like demons cant work to their fullest extent if my mind is constantly second guessing itself, like I don’t know if the demons can help change my mindset if its kinda “too far gone”. Please anyone help me, I want to achieve what I want through demons but I have so much questions and my mind is just all over the place Idk what to do, how to do it, or if what im doing is correct. I know I might be annoying with my surplus of messages in the past few days but I feel like im genuinely at war with my mind and also feel like I’m overexaggerating things. I want to be patient but the more I try to, the more impatient I get. I know what I want, I know how bad I want it, but im afraid of failure or doing the wrong thing and not getting what I want fully and feeling incomplete, like I did this for nothing or I did it wrong, I want to do magick, build relationships with demons, work with them, get what I want. But the harder I try, the more it feels like I am forcing myself to think a certain way, then that causes me to think its all in my head. I need something to REALLY kickstart my magick journey because i feel like i am incapable of doing so, if you want to help me and have a conversation with me to find out who I am as a person and my flaws stopping me from achieving what I want through demons/black magick/witchcraft etc, please pm me because I dont have that ability yet but I truly want help and I am willing to work as hard and give up things if I know the destination is truly there, please anyone. I have all the resources here but I need perseverance and by summoning demons to get that perseverance I long for and to change the qualities of my self-destructive personality I must summon demons to help me, but how can their magick be used to the fullest extent if its super hard for me to believe, maybe im just rambling but I need help.
Maybe take a break and let it settle for a few days. You’re wanging all over the place and it’s only been two days.
It’s really too soon for all this new info and energy to find it’s rightful place in your psyche, and you can’t force that. It’s worth it to give yourself a minute before you jump to conclusions.
yeah, im impatient idk I need to change myself but I cant. But yeah ill take a break from this forum and refrain from doing anything magick related for now, I’ll open this forum in a week and I’ll try to shift my mind away from magick right now. It’s my extremely strong desires mixing with my impatience lol, ive always been obsessed with black magick. Im tweaking out lol.
So, here’s my two cents. I had a terrible time with visualization, which is obviously very useful. One suggestion here was to just visualize a piece of fruit and keep it in your mind. Honestly, fruit wasn’t compelling enough for me. However, I started doing the meditations in “The Magic of Pathworking: A Meditation Guide for Your Inner Vision” by Simon Court and discovered that the suggestion to just keep working on it was a good one, but that I needed something more interesting than fruit. The more I work on visualization (like visualize that you are floating down a river, diving and swimming, looking at all the things around you), the better my visualization gets. So, that’s one step.
I also wanted a relationship with an incubus, so I did the petition to Lilith that is somewhere in this forum. It eventually worked, but I needed to figure out a lot of things for myself before the result was one that I was happy with. I think that a lot of my practice had been about figuring out how to get out of my own way. Managing my expectations has been a big part of that.