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Good time! :heart: Can you tell me if Lucifer is responsive or is it all individualized? Is he a responsive creature to newcomers?
Thank you!

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He has no reason to not respond to new comers :slight_smile:

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I do ceremonial , if I give Lucifer an order he will whoop my butt! He has been trying to spook me with quipothic minions for giggles for months , he appeared outside my window just to distract me just because , you think he will take orders not only by me but by anyone ?

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As he told me in a channeling session “ Kings go where they want NOT where they are summoned “

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You need to test that for an impostor, banish and set up your wards.

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It was him I had tested it :smiling_face_with_tear: During the first year I had many jump scares . Im glad they stopped

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Is Bime and Bune technically the same deity ? Also where can I find Clauneck

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Please post an introduction :slight_smile: everyone is required.

I’ve never heard of a Bime so I can’t give you an accurate answer between them and Bune.

Clauneck is a spirit of Grimoirum Verum.

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Yes, both names refers to the same spirit

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Yes. Bime is actually the correct name and Bune came about through incorrect translation. Either of them will work, though Bime seems to get you a male spirit while Bune has become female these days.

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Thank you. Also a little follow up question if you have time/don’t mind, does 213 have any special meaning in demonology I’ve been seeing it all through my life and even more often after I took up demonology and stuff

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Welcome to the forum @Xascha !

Please do make your Introduction HERE [ ← click me! ], which we need per the forum rules and see our posting guidelines in the FAQ.

Points to cover:

  • Do you have any practical experience in magick?

  • If so, what exactly do you practice and how long have you practiced?

  • Do you follow any specific system or tradition?

  • What are your areas of interest?

Here is a getting started with magick guide.

You’ll want to get your spiritual hygiene sorted out, and start work on developing your astral senses.

Then when you can know you have a decent chance at avoiding impostors and parasites then try the first contact guides we have on here.

For reference:

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The posting guidelines are here in the FAQ

The Terms of Service are here

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If I’m correct in representing the system of magic with demons, it’s about cooperating with them, not commanding them.A demon will grant your wish only if you ask him to because it is in the demons’ interest that you get what you want of course, if he sees that you are devoted and loyal to him and there is no need to command.

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That is not true. You don’t have to be “devoted and loyal” to work with demons. That sounds like religious nonsense. I think you might have the wrong idea about what commanding a spirit actually means. It’s not about shouting or coercing with threats, a la the Solomon tradition, but about taking the reigns and commanding with your divine authority as a king. There are many instances described on this very forum of demons literally telling the magician to command them. They don’t want you to be wishy-washy, worrying about hurting their feelings. Tell them what you want and expect them to obey, the same way a general would command their soldiers. That is what they want.

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Command versus Demand^

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I don’t know what kind of magician you are, but everyone has their own way and there is no wrong statement about that.

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I’m the non-religious kind of magician. I don’t bend my knee to imaginary friends, I command them. They respect me for it and I treat them as a king does his knights. There is no groveling, demanding, coercion or threats. I speak and they listen. They have granted me many boons. While there is power to be had in the path of devotion, it is not for me. I am sovereign.

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This sparks a question I’ve wanted to ask. If I refer to a spirit as a title or pronoun in relation to power, but my intention is to show mutual respect: does that empower them above me in my own words?

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I see that we are completely different in magic, namely, I don’t command demons because it’s not necessary.They do everything for me, I just tell them.And I am not religiously inclined.

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I do not need them to do everything for me. I seek to use my own power. I am not dependent on imaginary friends. But to each their own.

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