I’ve hopped over to here from another thread, so as not to take it off-topic:
After my experience with Ayahuasca and reading the " Tibetan Book of the Dead " ( a must read BTW )I’m convinced with are constantly being reborn until we live a pure life free of sin, and only then will we ascend to a higher level. This place is just pure ether.
Now don’t start thinking I’m a Bible basher , I have a fair idea I won’t be ascending any time soon but it gave me food for thought.[/quote]
It seems to me that we don’t have to “progress” in this manner unless we want to, although many people undoubtedly do.
I think what we call sin comes from pursuing personal desire at the possible expense of others, and yet this is a desire-based world - it was desired into being in some way according to almost every creation myth, and everything in it desires certain outcomes, crystals like to grow with their own type of chemical pairings, trees like to flourish in the sun, ducks like to swim, etc.
Desire comes from the possibility, one could say the polarity, of being denied those things when they’re wanted, so the world’s pain, which is enormous, is as a result of desires denied, be they natural and wholesome or otherwise - that makes no difference.
Without desire, there can be no suffering, and the pain of the victim of some crime still stems from their desire to have lived a life untroubled by the selfishness of others, and perhaps the loss of something important to them - peace of mind, valuable property, a loved one, or a basic sense of security.
So the only way out, which I did pursue for a long time, is to shed worldly desires as far as possible, and re-sacralise every aspect of life that can’t be shed, and then hope to leave the magnetic level that binds us by ceasing all desire, which in the final aspect has to include even the desire for liberation from this level.
Along the path of renouncing the world, it will begin to renounce you right back, and this is a natural process that can’t be bargained with or avoided, which is why most mystics are ascetics and hermits - something I don’t think is widely realised by western people who get sucked into yoga and hear terms like “non-attachment” bandied around lightly, as though this were somehow negotiable.
Having done that stuff, I’ve made the choice to remain in this world, so it doesn’t interest me to shed desire - basically I figure this world’s here and if there are things about it I dislike, I can just as easily stay and change them as run away from it all.
There are ways to avoid being a slave to attachments that are not the simplistic mystical admonition to do without, and to accept the loss and falling-away of those things, as well.
I’ve been working with this angelic energy recently which is like being bathed in a harmonic of complete love so strong that coming back and assuming the “Eva-identity” is like voluntarily giving up complete heavenly bliss to walk around in a cardboard doll composed of ideas and aspirations so limited that they feel confining.
That said, I like, respect, and love myself in a new way now, and I feel the same about everyone in my life who I’ve contemplated so far whilst in this state - it only breaks my heart how so many people feel not good enough… if only you could see yourself as angels see you, I don’t think you’d ever stop smiling.
But that’s another topic.
That’s the state I reached before as a result of my hard work on the RHP and although I’m not sure how much of what I’m doing is transferable and replicable by anyone else, it might be worth asking an angel if they can show you this state of being so you can make a choice about what you want.
I am truly fallen - I was offered heaven as a human aspirant years ago, complete merger back to Parasiva, and I refused it, and turned my back intentionally to acquire power on earth and (I very much intend) my own kindgom.
This time I’m experiencing the same but as an aspect, a quality (and therefore not of the unquantifiable and quality-free Parasiva) and it’s a different experience and more suffused with bliss (a quality in itself, since it has an opposite) - the absolute beyond-flow bliss of transfiguration into the angelic, a state of being where all of your thoughts and values align to a single purpose lit by white-hot underlying love for every single aspect of the universe.
I know it’s affecting my mental state anyway so apologies if I seem a bit strange, the conventional human thing of saying “aw shucks, I think it might be angelic but hey who knows” seems, in this state of bliss, like an almost fraudulent denial of my lived self-evident truth.
So yeah, sorry if that stuff gets a bit annoying, I’ll try and keep a rein on it all!
Anyway yeah, sin, desire, suffering, and the world, versus unconditional love and dissolution of ego - choose wisely, but they all exist, and so therefore on some level they’re all pleasing to the Source.
Edit to add - my wider point here is that a falling-away of desires such as you often see in elderly people and which is implied in many beliefs about the nature of an “old soul” has, maybe incorrectly, been interpreted to mean that such a thing is “evolution,” superior, and also inevitable, and I disagree.
I’m just watching the debate E.A. did with Astrid and the stuff he mentioned about becoming a singularity, that he also covered in a recent Q&A, to me that and then retaining individuation is true evolution.
I think a lot of mainstream religions mistake the path of becoming disenchanted with the world (which often comes from lack of tools to change it, or even lack of awareness that it can be changed) with a ripening of the soul, when in fact it’s a tactic to avoid suffering - often an understandable one given the circumstances of many people’s lives in the developing world.
But I don’t think it’s superior or the only correct progression for a person, which is why I turned my back on that and chose to, well, do the stuff I’m doing now.
Not any less verbose as an angel, am I…? :o)