Lucifer and the hidden demons. My first time attempting magick

after a long passion to want to attain my goals of being a very famous musical artist with extreme creativity and become extremely influential, see things not many have, do things not many have, be in places and environments not many people would even comprehend. i finally decided to start looking and have true faith when someone who plays a big part of a traditional ethiopian orthodox church gave me some information that magick, is truly real. I found this book “lucifer and the hidden demons: a practical grimoire from the order of unveiled faces.” I read the entire thing and pulled some good information about pathworking and expressing desire to demons. I want to talk to kataron “To improve artistry, craftworking, or creative expression” I was wondering if theres anything else I should know or if Kataron will fully fullfill the desires i long for? Honestly just looking for a little extra guidance so i dont fuck it up. So i can truly get what I want.

All in all, I want to have a chat/convo with someone experienced in pathworking and achieving desires through pathworking and demons. I want to get what I truly desire, not a fragment of it.

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Welcome @IWDI It is a rule of this forum for all new members to properly introduce themselves so PLEASE CLCK ON THE IMAGE BELOW and tell us about yourself and any experience you may have in magick, such as what you practice, how long you have practiced, areas of interest, etc.

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Welcome to the forum, that’s literally the whole purpose of why we’re here.

Have you tried the search feature yet?
There’s other posts mentioning this book specifically. like this one:

Also try a search on music and musicians, there’s a few here. :slight_smile:

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I have, but I want to answer specific questions yk? If you dont mind, can I send the steps I wrote down on pathworking after reading the entire book? I made a step by step guide on pathworking and want to make sure that this is what im supposed to do.

i meant to reply to you, my bad.

i also havent found much on musicians using pathworking of the book I sent to obtain the high fame and creativity and influence like, lil uzi vert or playboi carti or marilyn manson, young thug too, etc etc. I want clear answers so i can achieve that level of stardom

No worries. :slight_smile: If you still have the message authoring pane open, you can hit the reply button and it will actually switch to replying to me (or whoever), you don’t have to edit it or repost of anything.

Sure you can type that right here no problem. The main thing is, after you have run through the pathworking to connect with the entities energy, to hold your intention clear and strong for what you want the results to be.

I don’t have this book, but my go-to book for working with the Goetia uses pathworking (it’s literally called Goetia Pathworking) and it had really clear instructions on pathworking that make it simple.

Even if you think you can’t imagine, this method works. If you see the word ‘tree’, you know what a tree is. That degree of imagination is all you need, combined with the inner imagination of desire.

Hargrove, Corwin. Goetia Pathworking: Magickal Results from The 72 Demons (Magick of Darkness and Light) (p. 2). Kindle Edition.

Please don’t forget your intro. It’s important and we all use it to level-set suggestions and ideas to what kind of magick you’re into.

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I’ll look into the book “Goetia Pathworking”, but when you said “to hold your intention clear and strong for what you want the results to be.” Does that mean to strongly believe the pathworking is at work, is working? Or is there some sort of other meaning.
Here is what I pulled

  1. Summon lucifer with this pathworking

"You stand in a rock strewn desert.

There are mountains on the horizon.

You stand at the base of the mountains.

There, a black tree, its bark scorched.
Silver oozes from the tree’s green buds. Liquid metal runs down twigs and branches, hardening around the roots like glittering ice.

particulars of the image do not matter.

  1. Say lucifers name

  2. Ask lucifer to allow you to summon Astaroth and Kataron

“Lucifer, I ask that you allow me to summon Astaroth and Calamosi.”

4.Summon Astaroth with this pathworking

"In a dark part of the forest, shards of amber in the soil.

The bones of a bat on a slab of granite.

The entrance to a black cave billows yellow, sulphurous smoke."

5. You must now say “Astaroth” out loud or think it.

“Astaroth”

6. ask Astaroth to allow you to summon Kataron

“Astaroth, I ask that you allow me to summon Kataron”

7. Summon Kataron through this pathworking

"Two dead silvery fish float on the surface of a pond.

Sticks tied in a bundle with red thread.

You stand atop a grassy hill, looking down at a forested valley in flames."

8. You must now say “Kataron” out loud or think it

“Kataron”

9. You now express your request.

“I desire to be the most creative, most influential, and most versatile musical artist. I desire to be able to fully express myself through music and through my lifestyle. I desire to improve my musical artistry and creative expression.”

10.1. Close the ritual

"Kataron, I thank you. Lucifer, I thank you.

10.2. Reverse the pathworking.

“You stand in a rock-strewn desert.”

11. Become aware of the ordinary world

Eyes open, the ritual is now complete.

First, I’ll go do the intro after sending this. Second, are these the correct steps, if so i’ll try it as soon as you give the greenlight and give updates. Third, Will this help me achieve what ive expressed earlier? Please help me to your fullest extent.

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That’s it. No need to complicated it, I’ve been doing Lucifer and the Hidden Demons for quite some time. If you want you can do a banishing before you start it, the chance of you meeting a imposter through these pathworking are very low, but better safe than sorry. The more you work with Lucifer and the legion you will find your success skyrocketing.

I recommend you also work through most of the inner work demons. Like Bariol, Shahtan, Elafon, Semeot e Sumuron.

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That too, see and feel the result as if it’s happening, or just about to happen, and how that’s going to look and change things. Notice how you feel about the changes and feel the satisfaction/triumph/happiness of whatever this does for you as if it’s already a done deal.
This is part of the “law of assumption”.

What you don’t want t o do is dwell on what you don’t have. The universe doesn’t hear neagtive very well, and if you put your energy into thinking about lack, you will manifest more lack the same way you would manifest success.

Energy follows mind, meaning it flows where your attention is, and what it does when it gets there is set by your intention. Your intention is for success not more of the same old.

That’s great, but try this psychological trick - work it as if it’s already underway and a given. You WILL become what you wish, because YOU said so. You are the operator, the creator being, you are the pinnacle of this working, so stand in your power, feel it and let your will unfold and start acting in your life, with the help and inspiration of these powers.

"Lucifer, Asteroth, Kateron, I request your assistance in becoming the most creative, most influential, and most versatile musical artist. I desire to be able to fully express myself through music and through my lifestyle. I WILL improve my musical artistry and creative expression.”

You seem really smart and articulate, and you have the detail orientation to have gone through the whole thing, so I’m going to say this is YOUR magick now, your ritual, and they are the correct steps because you said so, and you are the Operator.

If I were going to work this ritual for me, I would edit it to suit my way of being. This would mean departing from their instructions slightly. First of all, nobody needs Lucifer’s permission to contact Astaroth or Kateron. If he’s not involved in the work and doing something useful, I would skip Lucifer altogether - “participants only, no spectators” :slight_smile:

After that it’s a perfectly good pathworking. You will get the entitles you intend to get.

I do suggest you cleanse the area before you start to clear out any astral time wasters looking for a free lunch and again afterwards. Doing magick makes you shine, and it attracts attention from the riff raff and wildlife.

We have info on setting up wards and protections from lesser astral beings here:

Thank you so much, but why would the book say something that isnt true (must contact lucifer first)? Also, does that mean I skip astaroth too? I focus on contacting Kateron. But nonetheless, while I ask that you answer the question i have just sent, I’m going to read what you sent about setting up wards and protections from lesser astral beings.

Okay, I’ll go back to the book and look into them too, I will also look into doing a banishing(with the forum Mulberry just sent , I do NOT want to meet with an imposter nor do I want to take any chances. Thank you for your guidance. If you dont mind me asking, what have you achieved through lucifer and the hidden demons/ pathworking

ah and one more question, to both of y’all. Do i have to memorize the pathworkings? Or can i just read them off

No, I would follow the hierarchy spelled out in the book. The whole point of it is that the demons in it work under Lucifer so, while I agree with Mulberry that you don’t need Lucifer’s permission if you were summoning these spirits separately through a method like evocation, when pathworking, you should follow the instructions as laid out in the system you are following, especially if you are a beginner.

It’s helpful to remain in trance if you can memorize the images beforehand but it is fine to read them in between visualizing them.

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im about to do it, but im afraid of meeting an imposter. I dont have candles or anything fancy that i read from the banishing tutorial but ill look a lil harder to see if theres anything easier for a beginner.

Theodore Rose recommend you to read it, so everytime you do the pathworking is like a new time feeling it. I memorized just in case I’m in a dire situation where I can use the authority of Lucifer to help or to command a spirit.

You can find some reports that I did in the place where people do the public thanks.

Some things I didn’t post there, because the spirits asked me to keep it secret. I cannot give details about them, but with time you will have the power to work miraculous healings, as well as bringing the wrath of God to your enemies.

Know that Lucifer and the Hidden Demons is a Grimoire, so the more you work if each spirit there they will reveal to you powers that Theodore didn’t put in the book. There’s much potential in that book, and I’m already exploring some energetic relationship that the '“Big Group” (Belial, Leviathan, Shahtan, Beelzebub, Astaroth and Lucifer) have with the magickal system of Quimbanda in my country. When I find a safe method I will disclose what the spirits allow me to, about how to access them in this way.

Trust yourself that you will not, Theodore already projected the pathworking to be safe and contacting you directly to Lucifer, if some spirits tries to pretend they’re Lucifer, they have no power to cause you harm unless you follow blatant dumb advices. Look at the protection and spiritual hygiene and how to identify imposters.

Know that even if you encounter one (which is very unlikely) they are low beings and they have no power to harm you unless you let them to.

ill look into the thread you sent(very curious lol). Thank you all though, i’ve been wanting to do this for so long but never truly believed in it, im greatful for you guys being here to help guide me where I want to go and how to do it correctly, you all have my thanks. Ill send a message before I try it, and ill send a message after. But before all that, I need to look into spiritual hygiene, but i assume im going to do this tonight, idk if its too soon but F it. I believe.

also did a quick search to see what quimbanda was and it looks interesting, I want to educate myself on it in the future but for now I need to focus on the bigger picture. I also plan on doing more rituals for more desires but ill refrain for now so I dont “confuse” the workings of the demons.(read something like that in the book)

It’s better for you to do so. Quimbanda is not for everyone, and the spirits there are similar to the Djinns of the Islam, but they were at least human so they are way more patient and empathetic… But if you work with them without the proper authority from the superior Exus/Pombagiras they will fool you, or do your request with a “little” side effect.