yeah, honestly wish there was a pm feature on this website, I’d like to discuss further with you. Your advice brings joy and reassurance.
But, I’m going to use this as a “banishing” to keep me safe from imposters and whatever dangers pathworking holds, what do you think? Or is there another way of defense/banishing i should try. I want to do this tonight, but I don’t want to rush things. Im sick of the boring life I live and ive been eager to do this for so long.
That’s a good thing to protect yourself, do it.
When your level of trust increase you will be able to send DM. For now, work with what you have. I did the pathworking of Lucifer in the first time without any banishing as a newbie, and I felt one of the most vivid experiences that I had, and it was the real Lucifer. Later on I got accustomed to the energy of Lucifer, so I don’t feel it as strong as I did past then.
shouldnt i try to achieve a more vivid experience though? a stronger feeling of lucifer to obtain stronger power? To feel more closure? Or am I mistaken.
dude fear keeps getting the best of me what do i do.
I’ve followed the steps, completed the ritual. I didn’t feel much but I know it worked. My desires will come to me much soon, I haven’t gotten a response from any of the demons, but I’ve closed the ritual now. Ill wait some time and update you guys, but I know it has worked. I can feel it has worked, It just hasnt happened yet. I felt a sort of sensation calling upon lucifer, a small one but I felt it. I also mispronounced kataron’s name.
It’s true for them. Why, I have no idea.
Astaroth is the demonized goddess Ishtar, a being from thousands of years before Lucifer - which is Latin for “Morning Star” - was invented - some say by Jesus who told his disciples that HE was the Morning Star bringing the light of empowerment to the world. Which is actually why they killed him, can’t have that. 
Anyway I don’t see how they’re related.
Magick is highly personal. As I said, you are a creator being… that means you - your whole being at all levels - your mind, emotions, cultural mores, values, your attitudes, your beliefs, expectations, everything you are massively affects and changes how you interact with the universe. What works for others may work differently for you, better, or not at all, and that’s normal and doesn’t mean it’s bad, just that, it’s not a fit for you.
You will also change as you age and learn and grow, and so the magick you’re comfy doing can change as well, That’s all well and good. Knowing who you are and what works for you is one of the most important tasks of a mage. The only way to find out is to try.
No you can read them, that’s fine.
idk if you saw my message but, I did it. I did the banishing, the spheric hard aura to protect me. I did the ritual, now what must I do? Right now i’ve accepted that i’ve done the magic and am letting it take its course. I do have a few questions and wonders of when and how will it happen, but who am I to question how and when they will do their work. Ill most likely try again tomorrow with a different ritual for a different purpose. What do you think of my efforts? Is the way the ritual felt(explained in my last message) a normal way to feel(almost nothing)?
Nice work.
You answered your own question:
Try not to do that too much. We call that “lusting for results” and it can cause doubt and anxiety that manifests opposing energy and ruins the working.
Know that the magick is working and now do your part so you are ready and able to take advantage of the opportunities when they come. This was a lifetime working with no end date. It’s up to you to work in the physical to honor the magick and make room for the new energy.
Here are a forum tut and a video by the forum’s Founder E.A. Koetting that explains more of what I’m trying to convey above:
Law of Assumption
You “let it go” and watch the probabilities you just changed play out.
Also watch this for tips on manifesting:
I’ll watch the video, thank you for your help. What do you mean freeing up energy? How do I work in the physical to honor the magick? Im watching the video after sending this message.
You cannot pour more into a cup which is full. Whether your cup is full from having a closed mind, not enough time to put in for your goals or other obstacles, you have to have room in your life for new things - and everything is energy - to come in.
I’ve made time in my life to make music, does that allow more of the energy to come in because thats where my desire resides?
Also I finished the video , from what hes sayin idk if i went into the ritual with the fully correct mindset, rather a partially correct one, i walked with partial fear but supressed it and hoped that my desires would be fullfilled, i have certainty but not full certainty. Should I do it again?
Actually, I have given up my attachment to my desire, I expressed my desire to Kataron, i must not worry. i should live my life without care now since i’ve already spoken what i desire. Ill step away from music for now then to give up my attachment to the desire. But after i watched the video i was told this is how I should think, i didnt think like this going into the ritual but ill be able to think like this after and before future rituals. Thank you.
Yes, make this your main focus, learn and practice until you’re better than anyone. After that workings for navigating a corrupt and incestuous industry are another matter - cross that bridge when you come to it. Workings to reveal enemies and those who would steal from and betray you will be important. Getting to the point of having your own label may be something to think about.
I think it won’t hurt at this point. Call the first one a rehearsal
I think there is a demon called gramon,on that book I have been using that book and it’s been successful
Also check out the goetia pathworking book
I kind of thought the ritual would give me musical abilites or help me achieve extreme musical abilities faster than others. Nevertheless, ill try the ritual again in a bit. But damn, cant wait till im able to live the life i want to live.
ill look into corilon under beelzebub from lucifer and the hidden demons “To improve a skill in a short period of time.”
maybe this’ll help get me super good at music, and if it actually starts to do and i can see it, ill just pull a “the weeknd” n dip from my crib
Ill do what I can to focus on music, my parents force me and pressure mr to be the best in school and do a lot in school n shits hard but ill make as much time as i can for music.
to attract fame through magickal glamour?
im going to first summon lucifer, then astaroth, bellzebub, kataron and corilon.
Summon lucifer with this pathworking
"You stand in a rock strewn desert.
There are mountains on the horizon.
You stand at the base of the mountains.
There, a black tree, its bark scorched.
Silver oozes from the tree’s green buds. Liquid metal runs down twigs and branches, hardening around the roots like glittering ice.
particulars of the image do not matter.
Say lucifers name
Ask lucifer to allow you to summon Astaroth, beelzebub, Corilon and Kataron
"Lucifer, I ask that you allow me to summon Astaroth, beelzebub, Kataron, and corlion”
4.Summon Astaroth with this pathworking
"In a dark part of the forest, shards of amber in the soil.
The bones of a bat on a slab of granite.
The entrance to a black cave billows yellow, sulphurous smoke."
5. You must now say “Astaroth” out loud or think it.
“Astaroth”
6. ask Astaroth to allow you to summon Kataron
“Astaroth, I ask that you allow me to summon Kataron”
7. Summon Kataron through this pathworking
"Two dead silvery fish float on the surface of a pond.
Sticks tied in a bundle with red thread.
You stand atop a grassy hill, looking down at a forested valley in flames."
8. You must now say “Kataron” out loud or think it
“Kataron”
9. You now express your request.
""Lucifer, Asteroth, kataron, I request your assistance in becoming the most creative, most influential, and most versatile musical artist. I desire to be able to fully express myself through music and through my lifestyle. I WILL improve my musical artistry and creative expression.â
“In the dawn sky a single bright star.
A young boy points at the star with a silver dagger.
The red sun rises over snowy mountains.
You stand at the base of the mountains, in shadow.
White flowers grow between the black cinders on the ground”
“An emerald lake surrounded by mountains.
The body of a dead snake, its eyes white.
You stand at the edge of a fast and foaming river in the moonlight”
“Lucifer, Beelzebub, Corilon, I request your assistance to improve my musical skills such as making music, recording music, and my audio engineering skills in a short period of time.
15. Close the ritual
"Corilon, I thank you. Lucifer, I thank you.
16. Reverse the pathworking.
“You stand in a rock-strewn desert.”
17. Become aware of the ordinary world
Eyes open, the ritual is now complete.
This is what ive done. My desires are in their hands now and they are at work. For now, ill focus on holding my part up of practing my skill of making music and audio engineering(mixing and mastering the song)
Is it that hard to be a rapper this days,just watch a couple YouTube videos and practice,you will be okay.
Yeah it’s fucking powerful once the effects start rolling.