Danger When Working With Demon Spirits

[Mulberry]

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but when its complete failure/opposite/hardship/lies, nobody takes the time to write that

No, not nobody. A simple search for “when magic fails” shows that:

https://forum.becomealivinggod.com/search?expanded=true&q=when%20magick%20fails

And we have some really good discussions on magick fails and how to learn from it:

The Grand Rite Of Sharing The Fail

Getting black eyes from failed actions, behaviors etc is a rite of experience. We personally learn. Let us share AND discuss the FAIL you had and WHY it failed, how you could have made things work to perfection. Was it youthful arrogance, or just ignorance? Did you forget a step? Personal accountability is important and humble acceptance for our part in such miserable failures in magic. It is an important step in learning.

People don’t like to admit failure, that’s normal. But it does happen, a LOT, and sometimes people do post about it. All of of have spells and rituals that didn’t seem to work. Most often you see this talked about in the context of lust for results, and people looking for advice of how to adjust to get it to work..

Also check out:

Discussing Failure

I largely agree: if you give reality two routes to take, it will take the most probablistic one available, and that’s usually the “fail.” No-one has a Plan B they believe will be less likely to succeed than their Plan A. Which could usefully lead us to wonder why so often we want things that are highly improbable. If you think about that one for a moment, it seems fucking weird - a lion wants abundant prey, water, and other lions to make baby lions with, and it can usually accomplish those goals in precise alignment with its DNA and soul’s instincts. No lion ever bit itself in an orgy of self-harm because it didn’t have horns, or wings. Why are humans so different? What genetic or spiritual inheritance do we possess, that we are almost never as happy as a simple lion? Certainly something that various multinationals and drug manufacturers are eager to try and suppress, by medicating the itch for MORE. But, back on topic, this is some advice E.A. posted when I made a topic years ago, seething about one of my workings that failed: ETA: hope you don’t mind @fapa79 but your post was very thought-provoking and I think it may have run the risk of a new conversation derailing the old topic, so I’ve made it its own new thread.

Learning and failing is how life works:

Your learning and failure phase

“Learning & failure phase” = Life. “Teaching & success phase” = Life. There are a lot of posts on here about this topic, try doing a search. Yes, and it’s important that you don’t just write them off.

Why Most Magicians Fail At Divination ~ By E.A. Koetting

Why Most Magicians Fail At Divination By E.A. Koetting [image] If you could see into the future, having a certain knowledge of events BEFORE they happened, could you use such a power to your benefit? Do you think that Mastering Divination could possibly give you an edge in creating the sort of life that you want? It most definitely CAN! Anybody can buy a pack of tarot cards or an I-Ching set and start reading for their friends, but very few people possess a working Mastery of the process of Divination. The first thing that you need to know about divination is that, like everything else that works, it is a system. It’s not some spooky, mystical, untouchable thing. It’s a system that you can utilize to your benefit right NOW! But, there are “kinks” that need to be worked out of the whole process. As I started researching and practicing Divination, I discovered that with a few tricks, a few simple methods, I could KNOW ANYTHING, ANYTIME. Predicting the future got to be as second-nature as remembering the past, and any question that popped into my head would immediately be answered by exact and verifiable information. Make It Easy On Yourself… Get Your Mind Out Of The Way One of the first keys to any form of divination is to release your mind from its constant work. The intellect is always moving, always taking in and analyzing information, always figuring out what should be taken notice of, and what input should be discarded… In divination, you are tapping into omn…

There’s tons more if you tweak the search keywords.

Bottom line is, failing doesn’t make you a failure, quitting does. Everybody who succeeded kept learning, course adjusted and forged ahead until they got what they wanted.