Completely lost

Love, Sex Magick & Relationships
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Hello everyone.

I’ve been dating a girl for 9 months now, and I’ve messed up a lot. A lot of useless lies (where I told her I had money when I didn’t, other things) that have really affected her feelings and confidence in me. For those who know astrology, you need to know that she has her sun in Virgo, with her Venus in Scorpio in the 8th house, so you can imagine how she feels about my betrayals.

My lies have disappointed her too much, and I’ve promised too much without being able to deliver.

I was thinking of ending the relationship respectfully, working on myself, very hard, for say 6 months, before coming back to her and using rituals to get her to cling to me again. I’m just extremely worried that she’ll meet someone in that time and move on.

I don’t want any rituals to detach myself from her or anything, she’s a good woman in every way and I absolutely want to freeze her in my future. What do you recommend?

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Why take a break away from her?

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I don’t know, I’m afraid that the lies I’ve told are irrecoverable and that my image is too tarnished to continue to “force” things… Maybe I’m wrong, I don’t know.

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Why do you say that you are “forcing” things?

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Because I feel like right now, where I am in my life and my way of being psychologically speaking, I could not make her happy.

I am afraid of giving one last blow, instead of just maybe moving away for a few months and coming back stronger, more built. She arrived during a very hard time in my life.

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Relationships are not about making eachother happy. Honestly if a realtionship is built on making eachother happy then its bound to be a people-pleasing trauma bonded type of relationship. What u should do is be entirely happy on your own first and then from there get together because you love eachother and can ADD to eachothers happiness where there is happiness already.

That being said. What i recommend is coming completely clean with her about your lies and the feelings that led you to lie and apologize for lying and then say that you wish take a break and work on yourself so that you can add to her happiness later. Then when your taking a break, bind her to having no sex with another person and not getting into another relationship unless its with you.

Coming clean and telling the truth, explaining the feelings that led you to lie, along with the apology and promise to make it up to her 6 months later shows huge dedication to her which im sure she’d appreciate. Not only that, the ritual will ensure you get her.

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Thank you very much for your answer.

What ritual do you recommend? I have worked with goetic demons before.

I feel like I have a great affinity with Beleth, I had done a ritual with him and the results had been crazy, I had also seen him in dreams, as well as other signs.

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Well personally i make my rituals. But if u wish to do goetic magick then i recommend Duchess Gremory (Praises be upon her)

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I dont see why you have to leave her in order to work on yourself, but you do you.
If you have an affinity for Beleth you can definitely ask them to guide you, it is said that they are adept at relationship related things.

Who is ever entirely happy?

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I think you should stay in the relationship and begin working on yourself while in it. If she didn’t leave you after all that, why would you leave her?
Not to mention she could be more difficult to influence with magic later, after that period of separation.

Virgos are practical people, so why not show her the effort and the change in the now rather than later? You can still do the rituals for both: self-improvement and love. Maybe a sweetener spell or a honey jar to make her more receptive towards your efforts and to keep the affection strong?
Scorpio venus likes devotion. If it’s in the 8th house, she’s probably an Aries rising, so showing initiative, ambition and devotion towards her and your goals + attention to detail in matters of everyday life should make her feel loved.

Good luck!

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No, she has Pisces rising, just like me.

Saturn is currently transiting our sign. I have my Venus conjunct my Ascendant, so Saturn is currently conjunct both my Ascendant and Venus. I imagine this relationship has a strong karmic knot as well…

Her Venus is on the cusp of the 7th/8th house. :smile: It’s nice to see practitioners who are knowledgeable about astrology.

I do think I will stay in the relationship. The biggest issue right now is money—I promised to make up for it by taking her out, making her happy, etc. But I just started working today as a temp (I’m still living with my mother, we’re relatively young), and I won’t get paid until April…

It’s a complicated situation. I was thinking of invoking Paimon to soften her attitude toward me, Beleth for sexual passion (our composite Mars is in Scorpio in the 8th house, plus other aspects like Venus opposite Mars in synastry, so sex isn’t really a problem—we have enormous compatibility and a strong desire for each other). But that might only increase the passion further. I also considered Gremory, as mentioned earlier, to rekindle her tender feelings toward me.

I’m an artist, and I plan to release my first EP by the end of this summer. Many artists create their greatest works during a Saturn transit in the 1st house, so this relationship doesn’t confuse me too much. I have Venus square Pluto (my Pluto is conjunct my Midheaven), so I’m used to intense, Plutonian relationships—that’s what I like.

But beyond all that, she is a faithful, beautiful woman with a good family, and I deeply want to marry her.

Tell me what you think about the rituals I plan to use, and if I could improve certain aspects? Other than working with Goetic demons through Gordon Winterfield’s book, I haven’t really performed many other rituals!

I’d love to know more about the honey jar. I’ve seen it mentioned before—maybe it’s in the search section, so I’ll take a look. But in my case, you might have other advice.

Thanks for your response anyway!

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Ouh looks like this Saturn transit came in with lessons haha. Suppose I’d pay attention to those as well, especially if you think the relationship is karmic.

Pisces rising - is she intuitive? Rituals you say seem good, just make sure not to overwhelm if there is a potential she senses it. Might push her away. Slow and steady (just like Saturn teaches us).

King Paimon seems like a good match here. He could probably help with the EP as well, as he can teach arts.
If you need money/wealth there are nice threads on the forum for spells and workings. Here are some: Unofficial Tutorials: Money, Legal and Wealth Collection
And you can search up the honey jars on the forum too.

Other than that, it seems you got it figured! :slight_smile:

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She is VERY intuitive, just like me.

It is never very pleasant, we would like to be less so sometimes. It is a blessing for the artistic though.

I actually think I will work a lot upstream with Paimon, it is in line with her Venus Scorpio (very attached to honesty, loyalty, and especially very resentful) and I have a lot of things to be forgiven for, Paimon will be able to help me with that.

Then, Beleth could help to revive pure and hard passion, and then, Gremori for healthy and sincere love.

For money spells and others, I would probably do them between two rituals, in order to help with detachment, I will look at the link you sent me, thank you.

I think I will do it like this, it seems fair and measured to me, do not hesitate to tell me what you think!

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Why does the risk seem to be accumulating if she is intuitive? She could understand that I am doing magic?

She is not in any way close to magic, she is Muslim, but not practicing.

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Honestly the way i see it as you said she is very intuitive then you have no leg to stand in when it comes to magick, Just my thoughts, could i be wrong indeed… if she is able to pick up on things all that may just push her away…

Its not right to mess with another’s will not only will it back fire it may just end up putting you into a deeper hole then where you are at right now.

I concur with @jaxo as staying with her and working things out.

I look at people,.places, and things that you cant lose what you never had, if they get lost then they where never truly yours…

Whats meant to be will always be whether we can control it or not.

You said your young still wet between the ears, there are plenty of souls out there you have only just begun your Journey into the extraordinary world of love, passion and seduction.

If you choose to leave let her go, let her live and start her journey as well…

Learn the craft, learn everything and anything spiritually, mentally, and emotionally.

Learn to lean into your own power, this Journey is vast with the potential to become whoever and whatever you heart and soul desires budd.

Just take it as a lesson that doing whatever and however the way you had treated her…

Learn and grow from your mistakes so when the next gorgeous soul come your way because she will you wont do the same.

You got this budd!!! I believe in you!!!

Keep that chin in the air, keep striving for the best to overcome some pit falls that can occur.

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I don’t see how her intuition would be contrary to the effectiveness of my magic.

Indeed, if she practiced and was aware of magic, I could hear her, but no…

As for attacking the will of others, it depends and will always depend on morality, it’s up to each person, personally I don’t think it’s a bad thing. She loved me for who I am, she continues to do so, I will only help with the reconciliation.

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Depends really. It was more of a heads-up thing because it can happen with love spells. Maybe the fact that you’re together will play in your favor, so they will only amplify the existing love and not raise any suspicions.

At the end of the day, do what you think is best.

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Happy being on your own is what i meant.

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