A ritual for very strange results

Following this topic: Completely lost

I decided to start with King Paimon, from Theodort Rose’s book, LHD.

I did the ritual last night, this morning I was single. :sweat_smile:

I admit I didn’t really understand, I asked her to forgive my mistakes and my lies, after that, she left me.

In your opinion, should I continue with other demons, such as Beleth and Gremori as mentioned in the topic above, or stick to that, seeing it as a clear message?

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To be fair, members did warn you that love spells can be perceived as psychic attacks and make the target run - they don’t even know why it’s a deep instinct that you have become a predator and the rabbit runs away - it’s a very common backfire in love magick:

It doesn’t matter if they practice magick or not - ALL humans are psychic and just haven’t developed control, all of them have intuition and gut instincts.

Either that or you said something they didn’t like and it was the last straw.

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She has just texted my mother, saying “I forgive her everything, but I don’t forget”.

So the ritual worked, but paradoxically made her leave. My intuition told me that was the risk too. I’m now going to have to work in such a way as to:

1 - That she doesn’t meet or lust after other people, if you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them.

2 - Sexual passion (Beleth)

3 - Persistent thoughts/dreams about me, if you have any ideas, I’d love to hear from you!

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This is just beating you head against a brick wall, her text tells me that lust and love are not the issue - she had made a logical decision that you are not good for her based on your combined behaviour.

This means the block isn’t about love or lust, so more love spells won’t work - gotta us the right tools for the job - you need to understand what that block is and fix it.
Then you have to regain her trust that it’s not a problem any more.

You would use a binding for this.

I agree with you, but I’m afraid that his love for me will diminish with my mistakes. I’ve disappointed him a lot, which is why I wanted to do love spells, but it’s true that it’s perhaps not the most strategic…

I thought of Paimon to make him forgive my mistakes, but apart from Paimon, I don’t have any other demons in mind. Belial?

You can probably take it as true that the mistakes are forgiven, so that would be a waste of time.

You’d have to show you could be trusted not to make those mistakes again. That’s the hard part - trust once lost is very difficult to regain, and there’s no basis for it yet. If I read the story right you already had your 2nd chance to make this happen, and kind of proved you could not meet his needs ever.

I might recommend here in Jareth Tempests “Flithy Grimoire” there’s a servitor for emotional healing, that I’ve tried and works REALLY well. It takes time, as emotional healing has to happen at it’s own pace, but I highly recommend that for you and the target, as it will help resolve the inner issues that caused the fighting and you lying. With those actually resolved, then come back to see if you both can start over.

Great, thanks for your advice, I’ll look into it.

She’s also coming to see me next week to pick up a bracelet she left at my place, I think I can maybe try a ritual coupled with Jareth Tempest’s, to maybe create something inside her. It’s been a month since we’ve seen each other, our big falling out happened on Valentine’s Day. :sweat_smile:

You should see a softening if you do workings for emotional healing but it may be too soon.

It’s worth telling her that you are working on yourself to resolve the inner reasons why you hurt her. Be a bit humble and give her hope that you take responsibility for fixing these issue so they can never happen again, and she understands why they will never happen again. That hopefully keeps the door open while you take the time you need to work on yourself.

I’ll do it like that, thanks!

Do you have a ritual binding to recommend in my case?

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Me, I always the same one here: Confused as F*** - #10 by Mulberry

There’s something about having a technique that you reuse over and over again. It’s like it makes a groove through reality that makes the working easier and more effective every time you do it, so when I find a new working that gets me results I want, I keep it. This is one of those.

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Want any advice? It’s an interpretation I had so consider it only if you want. You asking Paimon in Theodore Rose is that he shows you what “You truly want” (which I understand is that he shows you your True Will). I know it has other powers (including manipulating thoughts), but even if he does that if your “Higher Will” (Holy Guardian Angel) doesn’t want that, it will hardly work. That’s why in these cases I would recommend using Astaroth, since it’s a much simpler and still powerful attraction.

Thank you for your valuable advice.

How could I modify it in my case? I thought about possibly taking one of his pictures, but it seemed difficult to wrap with a thread.

Then, wrap it, and say “You can’t stop thinking about me, you can’t move on, you belong to me”.

Then, should I leave it in the refrigerator for a long time? I don’t live alone, it seems complicated to me at this point. Can I add an entity to the ritual as well? Thank you!

The problem is that attraction is not a problem. This woman loved me, strongly, there is and always will be a palpable sexual atmosphere (Mars in composite house 8 in Scorpio, trine to the ascendant with an orb of 0.10 degrees), my Mars is conjunct her Moon, my Venus is opposite her Mars…

So I was thinking of Beleth, having a fairly good connection with him (her?) in order to “rekindle” this sexual passion that she represses due to her current irritation and disgust towards me, but attraction in itself is not a problem because it is her intellect and logic that decided to leave me, for her own good.

I also want to say that, being an artist and being very well surrounded, I will surely acquire a certain notoriety very quickly. She is a very strong woman and very in place on her ideas and ideals, so even if I have the notoriety of a Michael Jackson tomorrow, she would not care.

On the other hand, I wondered if it was not possible to use that to my advantage? Or to use my creative force in music for rituals or other?

Thank you for your precious advice, it helps me a lot.

Due to her strong will, and strong mentality let alone her intuition the way i see it is your only gnna push her away with the more possessive spells and rituals.

Let alone go down a path of obsession and destruction of your own will, Spirituality, mind body and soul…

Not sure if you have been through the dark night but its honestly not the greatest feeling to have.

Could this be your time to do so?? Maybe…

I only hope you will be able with handle the process of could potentially happen within your own worldly bubble.

Some dont make it out alive whether its the person casting or the person its getting casted on.

Your not just putting your self in a mental world wind, even if your spells and rituals do tend to break her it could possibly make her mentally and emotionally in utter thoughts of dispar…

I have had a few that have worked and man was it interesting let alone the damage i not just did to myself as well as the the ones i did them too…

Im not saying this outta Arrogance im saying this out of Experience not just one but a few times before i learned my lesson.

With everything you have spoken ive been there too…

With 5 yrs later of a bond that cant be broken because of a blood and sexual fluid ritual the two of us put on each other…

Feeling them mind body and soul and not even being together, next to them on a daily miles from one another…

Knowing there bad days, the full emotional shit there going through, there physical pain that they deal with, is it cool and interesting yeahh… but dealing and feeling someone else’s shit isnt always fun.

I mean you can do whatever you want but the fact of the matter is i hope your mentally, physically, and emotionally ready for what is ahead and to be able to make it out alive…

Plus even if it does work, your own consciousness is gnna know, can you live with the fact that someone else other then yourself is under your will??

Stay blessed budd, i truly hope everything works out for you.

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Thank you for your response.

What is the “dark night” exactly? I don’t know if I’ve been through it or not. I’m currently experiencing a Saturn transit over my Ascendant (and my Venus). I did love rituals for this woman, which affected both her and me. I can say without hesitation that I’ve lived the worst year of my life. I’m only 22, so maybe it’s presumptuous to say, but I’ve taken a massive hit. I even had suicidal thoughts—it has been, and still is, really difficult.

The more I think about it, the more I realize that holding on to this woman might not be the best idea, even though I love her madly and she seemed like my ideal feminine figure.

But I need to move forward. I need to focus on my music projects and get out of the loop I’ve been stuck in for years. To be honest, I feel completely lost.

I have a Plutonian and Venusian nature—I love deep, transformative relationships. This one was exactly that… maybe even too much.

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Google and research the Dark Night Of The Soul…

Its a giant transformation shift, that makes you deal with your own shadow and some lol

But the good thing is afterwards you rise like a Phoenix on fire with amazement.

There’s a ritual in that Lucifer book with the demon Bilek, to “Cause somebody to change their mind or reverse a decision.”
You could try that.

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