Referring to the link above. It was probably the thing that got me into this forum in the first place, I remember drawing out a sigil of King Paimon and following the instructions there a few years back… to no result. I must’ve tried it once or twice more again since then, and nothing really happened. Curious to know yall’s experiences with it and if it worked really well for any of you?
I’ve also once done the succubus petition spell as described in succupedia, again to not much result. I get that maybe my lack of success in making contact with spirits or deities could be due to my lack of astral senses (I only trained a bit with Robert Bruce’s New Energy Ways), but I also wonder that, ought it not be possible to communicate with them without having to develop psychic sense first? Almost everyone on this earth would know of a story where a spirit of sorts manifested in a very physical way in somebody’s life.
If your astral aka psychic senses are not open, then you cannot sense what is happening. They usually come anyway, and are just as frustrated as you that you cannot communicate.
You never see these with your physical senses, you have to develop the skill to get the impressions from your subconscious which can see them and tells you about it.
This is why we have tutorials for those without developed senses that don’t need them.
And we have a bunch of free tutorials here to help you get started on building these skills.
nah maybe you didnt know but a spirit aka demon need more then a seal to draw his attention 1 and my best ever thing i use is mhyr(their preference blessed one) candles with vanilla smell and cigarets and best thing if you realy to for a relation with them is a drop of your blood i use it in my monthly offerings because i consider my relation with them a partenership between equals and every time i ask one for something i make it like my invokation word are i invite you()to stay beside me and i offer this…… for whatever i want at that moment then i ask for a specific sign i choose easy for them to if they accepted it like fliker flames make them bigger etc and with which i decide to have blood pacts i consider friends/family plus never put you beneath them you are an equal show respect if they respect you if not disrespect them to because you pay something of equal value for their work not oposite because some only want to mess with you and your life and at end of day are many spirits which wants your energy if one demon dont do his job ask the next if demons dont work for you go for gods if they dont go to angel but they wok hard or at end if nothing work make your servitor you are magican world need to change at your words not you to world if a chain is in your face research and break this is the way of us who go the left path
At this point, you can still ask for signs and omens, or dreams, and that can get you some feedback, as can using divination to activly ask for information.
After that, “the proof of the pudding is in he eating”. When you get results - and they may well just look like coincidences - then your magick worked.
So the question becomes, how can we troubleshoot your technique to ensure you get results regardless of having the senses available to communicate directly?
What it usually comes down to, is time spent visualizing the outcome as if it was here already, to imprint reality with that vibration and manifest what you want.
i have a question psychic senses do you need to open yourself or can be already opened or do you even need them open?
Because i m not someone who work by the books and i maked my own way be trial and errors not be readings books because they never worked for my when i first started i did because of my desire no enns no meditation only draw the seal buy my offerings write my pettion and go and do it
You can do magick without having developed psychic skills, but it’s very helpful and motivating to be able to get real-time feedback.
You don’t always trust the feedback - it can be very subtle, you sometimes think you’re imagining things, or that it’s impostors telling you what you want to hear, but it’s good to have that source of information to work with, and over time you gain more confidence and trust in the work.
what i use to know the spirit is the one i summoned through his seal is by the the feel i get when invite by their name to stay beside or walk with me like lucifer give the feel of courage and that i can do anything i dont have to please anyone from lady gremory i get the the feel of protection and feel my presence get glow up from vassago i only feel the presence light hearthed that wish me only goodness and from baal i got the feel of a teacher someone who hold big authorty but he want me to not change my values and ideals only for others to feel good in their own buble.what do you this my way good to discern them like i never seen parasytes around me but i had belial act as a parasyte and mammon too i got the feel clear from each and their curents like from belial i start to feel i dont need a master and hate authority and from mammon the glutony but in the end they only eat my energy and never delivered what i wanted so i like with belial got easy i only burned his seal and though hekate i anounced that he is not a king but act as a parasyte only eat but dont deliver same with mammon but lets his way down was humilating and neither retaliate back
That sounds great, you are using your astral senses to feel the presence, and that’s where it starts.
Generally, that means those were parasites and you didn’t get who you thought. When this happens, banish and cleanse, and call the correct entity, and get the to verify who they are. Parasites often try to refuse to leave as well, so you may have to get heavy handed to get rid of them. Just know they only lie about everything, and if they threaten you it means nothing,
No like they where them for sure i divinate using pendulum and asked lucifer if they are truly them and i get yes 7 times and for mammon his deal has used guarants so i dont think a mere parasyte com in presence of lucifer and hekate and say he is mamon
That isn’t verifiable. You want to get a bunch of known items, playing cards, magazine clippings, shapes etc, and put them in envelopes - them you can’t see them, but you can confirm the answer. They should have unambiguous possibilities, like “Red” or “the picture shows water”. Playing cards where you’re just going to try red or black will give you roughly 50% right just guessing. Shuffle the envelopes.
Then use the pendulum to answer yes/no questions.
Record the answer the open the envelope and check if you got it right.
If you get 90 out of 100 questions right, that is way beyond the statistical chance of being right just by guessing, and you have established your accuracy.
If you get
A 90% score would mean that you can trust the pendulum only 9 times out of 10. It will still be wrong sometimes, so you still have to be careful and not just believe it all the time.
how to say i gone to a 2 way path asked on a trail that i didnt know anything no map no phone and had to reach a certain summit point i got a 2 way path asked gremory left yes should i go left way or no pendulum said yes ask for left said no ask right said yes again and i did it in each direction three times had same results i even did it to times in same way of path same thing i go left i come to a crossroad ask again same again said left come to 2 way path again i go same thing did it like 4 times and ii go where i wanted if got other path i would have not get there plus i as again left or right go of trail she wanted left and was the best spot for ritual i asked again is safe to stay till 3 am to do ritual she said no should i do faster yes should i do now yes again i even ask why should i not stay the night is dangerous yes again did is deadly yes again and she was right i finish the ritual between 8 pm and 9pm and if i stay more was realy a deadly danger there
I have to give credit to the way Controlled Remove Viewing applied a clear protocol to limit the imagination and keep the subconscious messaging front and center. They use a scoring system to gauge accuracy. The system was developed in the U.S. military and is still used to find missing persons, where getting it right can be life and death for someone, so accuracy is important.
I feel like we need accuracy as well, or we’re just wasting our time playing games with ourselves.
On topic…
The way I used to open or get “flashing” sigils, was by doing the following:
Tear up a piece of parchment
Find a sigil from a reputable source and trace it on a piece of parchment, use a sharpie.
With a little space at the bottom of the parchment, fold it so it stands up on its own.
Write an enn on the top of the parchment so it can be read by candlelight.
Follow the tutorial on prepatory immersion.
When you’ve done research on the spirit, prop the piece of parchment up so it’s to the side of the candle.
Have an offering at hand on the altar along with your wand and dagger and cup.
Have a bowl for burning the paper.
Sit in front of the altar and light the candle and incense. Call out the enn repetitively.
Let your eyes float from the flame to the sigil and hold your gaze there. If your eyes drift, gently pull them back to the sigil, while chanting the enn.
The lines at some point will move in a 3-d way. Let it go, and call out and greet the spirit by name.
Do your ritual steps.
Give the libations or offerings.
Converse with the spirit by name
When you’ve sensed or felt the atmosphere shift, it’s likely the spirit is there.
The spirit might just be there to observe and size you and your abilities up.
Continue your ritual steps.
When you’ve exhausted your time, thank the spirit and give license to depart.
Likely the candle has burnt down, hopefully it will be a nice round puddle of wax, as a sign the spirit has accepted the charge and your offerings should stay a day.
Close down your ritual space and cleanse and banish.