Hi everyone! I think I am back here after long time. I need your help to make a decision. Angels represent light & Demons represent darkness. In the normal world, people claim that angels help people because they are from light & demons harm people because they are from darkness. I too was afraid of darkness before. I was afraid of demons due to stories I heard through people, religious books, social media, etc. Stories like turning people into evil, taking people’s lives, etc. You may have also heard similar stories during your childhood. But I also heard stories where demons helped people just like angels. Then why are they considered evil beings? Are they really evil? Or were they portrayed as evil? (history, usage of dark powers for evil by dark practitioners, etc). I find some demons as good ones. I don’t know about the others. Are all angels truly good ones? (I may sound crazy but are they?) I don’t know why fate decided me to go down this path. I don’t want to go back because if I go back now then I will feel like I wasted some of my years in these stuff. I only want to move forward without any regret. Before I wanted to follow both Light & Dark path. But I am losing myself. One time I will be like ‘Yeah, Dark path is the best way for me’ & another time I will be like ‘Oh no, I am a little bit scared, what if bad things happen’. Smh. Now I am struggling between 2 choices. Light or Dark? Do I hear both? Smh. If anyone can enlighten me in this matter then you are very welcome & I am all ears. Enlighten me on this matter with your experience. I know that a lot of true magicians/ sorcerers/ wizards/ vampires/ other great beings are here. You are welcome to tell your opinion on this matter.
You don’t need to choose, you can work with both. You can’t really class angels or demons as good and bad because good and bad are human concepts, they aren’t human beings and don’t operate by our morals. The same demon that can harm someone can also heal someone, and the same angel that can heal someone can also harm them. In neither of these cases are they good or bad, although you could argue your intent makes them good or bad it’s better to drop that concept in general and work with the best being for the job and the one you feel the most drawn to.
You can even work with demons and angels together in the same working, so if you’re having trouble deciding what side to choose, just choose both. Also a lot of stories are just that, stories. See them as beings to work with to attain a result you want, not a being to project any type of morality or belief onto.
In my experience and hence opinion, they are not talking about the same kinds of beings.
This is the trouble with a generic word like “demon” it can mean a lot of things and get applied to mean anything from ghosts, fae, addiction and emotional-mental disorders, to astral parasites to fallen angels. These are all different things and need different approaches, so the word demon become ignorant and dis-empowering. In JCI religions you are not supposed to figure this out for yourself, you defer your will to a pastor, priest or other religious leader and do as you’re told.
So if you’re going to work with them on your terms, you need a better framework and language to be more discerning. For me, the kinds of entities that cause possession, bad luck, and sometimes unwanted behaviors or make additions worse, are called “parasites”.
A parasite is a classic “demon”, it’s never ever going to tell the truth, or do anything good for you. They lie, including about who they are, if they can speak - most can’t and just hiss or growl at you.
The only think you do with a parasite is banish it or better yet, kill it. On this score, the exorcists are spot on.
Where we diverge is in assuming that the entities that like humans and are beneficial for us, are bad because they got the label “demon” too. Fallen angels are still angels, the same species, the same skills and intelligence. They got “demonized” as was normal for entities on the wring side of Christian religio-politics because the Christian god, according to the humans in power, didn’t want then teaching humans skills, like agriculture. Personally I think skills are good and I think dimly of any one trying to keep people ignorant - there’s never a good reason for that.
So the “demons” that help are are not demons at all, that’s political bullshit for the most part, and if you talk to them yourself, you can make your own mind up.
Bad things won’t happen unless you fail to keep the parasites out, and ask for bad things to happen. Working with fallen angels for good doesn’t bring bad things.
You’ll want to get your spiritual hygiene sorted out, and start work on developing your astral senses.
Then when you can know you have a decent chance at avoiding impostors and parasites then try the first contact guides we have on here.
Thanks for the reply! I am going to work with both.
Thanks for the great guidance!
i think it depends more on which one you feel more happy with , but i’d personally recommend demons , they are more diverse , closer to humans and easier to relate to i think
or at least from what i’ve seen …
yes yes such a nice choice ! (*＾▽＾*)
Thanks for the reply!
To say it bluntly this is an absolute indoctrinated belief. Some may know it as a load of shit.
There is NO such thing as “Light and Dark” or “Good and Evil”, these are concepts to assign this to that instead of giving you an actual educated opinion.
It is also no secret theocracies have used this exact terminology in order to make their side much more appealing and attractive to the impressionable audience. Through this, they have mass control over their followers because they believe they are safe with those teachings through that indoctrination.
Not even actual demons say Good or Evil, they say Light and Shadow (at least within my experience). But never forget not all light is good. The Atom bomb let off light so visceral that it melted skin and left shirt designs permanently tattooed on people’s skin.
Furthermore, the people who represent “light” have had multiple macro sex scandals typically involving children. The Prophet Muhammad of the Islamic married a 9 year old, and they all speak of him like a God amongst men. Not so “good” is it?
My point is that the argument of Good and Evil will forever be contradictable by the people who use the same terminology because THEY actively contradict it outside of the public eye.
In the realm of demons specifically, there are multiple purposes that you can call upon them for. Healing, Curses, Romance, Domination, Conversation, Divination, Time Telling, Wealth, Lust, Dignity, Protection, Strength just to name a few.
You can also find these qualities amongst angels, namely in strength and healing to my knowledge.
On both sides, they have the potential and capacity to heal and hurt. But the stories of driving people mad of their own will or ruining families is 1 of 3 things.
- The summoner dishonored that spirit so bad that it was worth punishment
- It was warranted by the receivers actions, which for spirit needs to also be justifiable by them and by the summoner or it won’t be carried out.
- Stories with no actual foundation to rest on and are purely fictional either for entertainment or disinformation.
Know this, the choice is yours and solely yours to make.
Do not ever let somebody else decide it for you.
Furthermore remember that you can work with both.
The most important thing to understand before you practice either is this formula:
Banish. Method. Intention.
- Banishing will render your space clean of unwanted attention which is mandatory for effective and professional practice. It will also keep you safe and can be used in any instance.
Here is a banishing that most here on the forum use:
Ashtu Malku Ta Dat Arkata Sastus Secks Altamu Partu
Iretempal Krez Ta Felta Vaskalla Regent Met Senturus
Ta Sastros Estos Melta Kelta Kelta Kelta Hine
The tongue is demonic from what I can understand, I’ve never seen Vaskalla in angelic passages. But again, it can be used in any context or reason no matter the language. Also the pronunciation does not need to be 1:1, it matters that you put it in your head and into your words that your intention is to banish anything unwanted.
- Method relies on your practice in particular. I have a guide on demonic summoning and practice here which should be interchangeable with angels:
- Intention is everything.
Your purpose for doing and why you’re doing lies in thyself and will determine your success. Intention is the fuel to your fire, but it is you who stokes the flame. Set it very clear in your mind what you are doing before you start doing.
If you try and contact a spirit but your intention is misplaced, they will disregard your call entirely in most cases.
You can do everything correctly and in excess, but if your intention is not set crystal clear, then the tree you plant will never grow.
Thank you for writing all of these points! Thanks for your big help!
I live to help people 
If you’d like any of these points in more depth or with example, my messages are always open
Thanks! 