Why so many love spells?

[Verdo]

@anon6645274

@Verdo

For your case in particular, the issue is more clear.

I think in my case the person just wasn’t for me, and I’m not mad at the spirits anymore (I can’t believe I was!). It’s not that they didn’t listen… it’s just that they knew better…

I’d say this is even less likely. It’s not the spirits job to determine who is “good” or “bad” for you…unless you ask it to do so. You are at the top of the hierarchy in the ritual circle. If you want to date a shitbag because you find him hot and want to shag, then discard him afterwards…the spirits will oblige (with the exception of certain angels)

What I think your issue is, is this: I do read your posts, although I don’t engage much…but over the last few months I’ve noticed that you’ve been struggling to get the results you want across the board, whether it be baneful magick (such as your master curse) or your money magick (such as your job seeker ritual). This suggests to me one of two things:

1. Either there is something wrong with your approach/methodology to magick in general, or…

2. You are doing everything correctly, but the system you are using is ineffective.

Neither option suggests to me that love magick just doesn’t work for you. Its very very clear that the issue has to do with your method. Now lets go a little deeper to figure which of the two options above is the problem.

Could you be doing something wrong? Perhaps…but I wouldn’t rule out option two which I think is the most probable of the two. You have a sufficient work ethic from what I can see and I believe you probably do you best to follow the instructions to the letter. So I think the most likely cause of your repeated failures is the method you’re using.

What I’ve noticed about each of your workings is that there is one common denominator, besides yourself. This denominator is the Gallery of Magick. I want to correct you slightly on something you said a few months ago:

@anon6645274

The method works because GoM’s methods are effective, so that’s out of the question. Maybe my wrath wasn’t enough? Maybe I wasn’t focused well enough?

Out of the question? I wouldn’t say that. Its effective for many, yes…which is why I suggest it often to newcomers (specifically Demons of Magick) because they seem to latch on to the straight forward step-by-step approach…but it doesn’t work for everyone, especially this emotional transmutation method they’ve come out with (I’ve noticed you’ve been dabbling with this too).

Over the years, I have created a short list of magicians that have passed through these forums whose opinion I have high respect for due to their vast amounts of knowledge and practical experience. @PrinceX was one of those magicians. He had deep issues with the emotional transmutation method (as I do). Here is his response to someone else that was not succeeding with the Gallery of Magick books (as you’ll see, its not just you):

@PrinceX

@Kotodama

”Maybe angels don’t work for me.”

GOM was my entry point and had minimal results. This was the conclusion I came to as well.
Angels judge more I found. If what you’re trying to achieve is the ‘right thing’, if not they won’t do what is requested.

I Started working with demons and they helped profoundly.
They don’t judge. Free will is their modus operandi.
No offence to anyone who works well with angels. I just came to the conclusion that the LHP is more suited to me.

Allow me to disagree. The main reason for failing with Angels is that most rituals are structured based on wrong assumptions, like the ones you mentioned. Angels and Demons or any other spirits, follow the energy you give them in the ritual. If the ritual is powerful enough, you’ll see powerful results. Perform a weak ritual and no matter which spirit you work with, you’ll see weak results or no results at all.

Most GoM books, especially the ones by Damon Brand, are structured in a specific way that may or may not work. Depends on the situation and desire. The reason for that is the “emotional transmutation” technique. If your negative emotions are stronger - the situation is really bad or you have a strong desire - then the situation will become worse or at least, nothing will happen. There’s a reason why occultists and magician only concentrate on the end result. This “transmutation” thing is gambling and playing with fire.

Unfortunately, because almost all their books are attached to Angels, people get the impression that Angels are just difficult to work with. They don’t care, you need pure heart, must be religious etc etc all are superstitions and got nothing to do with how Angels work.

Angels are soldiers, especially Archangels. Give them weak, all love and light, ritual and you’ll be lucky if they do anything at all. Forget that they’re “Angels” and act as if you’re working with a Demon… and see what happens.

Gallery of Magick systems (especially damon brands stuff) are using emotional energy. When someone uses this technique too much, it drains and corrupts the aura. Especially when negative emotions are involved. Their “emotional transmutation” (as I see you’ve been employing) method requires raising negative emotions. That’s a dangerous gamble unless someone is cursing. Because when cursing, the negative emotions are so strong, they do not affect the person himself… they’re all sent out. But they don’t mention the importance of that in GoM books except in Magickal Attack and Angels of Wrath.

So my first suggestion is to not bother with the emotional transmutation stuff. It doesn’t have a great track record imo.

Secondly, even if you don’t use the books with that method, Gallery of Magick has another problem that sometimes messes people up. I’ve talked with PrinceX back in the day about this as well concerning the Demons of Magick book in particular:

@PrinceX

Good practical book. I would use the 2nd and 3rd rituals without change. But the first ritual you can use it as it is, or change the structure to something you’re more comfortable with.

For example, with the 1st ritual you can use a short version of the opening ritual. You can find it in Archangels of Magick by Damon Brand. You can also skip the petition paper or use a sigil of desire, the classic sigil creation from chaos magick.

The first ritual also may not work for cursing. It’s best used for attracting what you want. I suggest that you repeat the ritual at least 3 times for best results.

@Verdo

@PrinceX

The first ritual also may not work for cursing. It’s best used for attracting what you want. I suggest that you repeat the ritual at least 3 times for best results.

Why do you think that is (to both of those statements)?

@PrinceX

In my opinion cursing is more effective when it’s done with negative energy. The book suggests using feelings of pleasure… that may work for hexing but to curse you may need more powerful energy than that.

The same reason I suggested repeating the ritual 3 times. The book doesn’t give instructions of “raising” energy. And from my experience, that’s extremely important to get exactly what you want, fast. This could be achieved by raising powerful energy in the ritual and perform it once, but if the energy is weak you may need to repeat the ritual several times.

3 times is reasonable to create a good effect. Less than that, you could just attract what you want, make it more likely to happen, but may or may not actually receive it.

His advice was good. Repeating the rituals several times can help with this issue. Or you can use what I use, which is EA’s invocation of omnipotence. @DarkestKnight was gracious enough to write out the steps to it here. It comes from his Evoking Eternity book.

So in conclusion, this issue for you is hardly that love spells are ineffective. That would be an odd conclusion to come to given that your lack of results is occurring across multiple fronts within your magickal practice outside of love magick. The most likely cause is that you are leaning to heavily on Gallery of Magick. Not every method works for every person…regardless of its popularity. Again…even for myself, the Gallery of Magick system has a less than stellar track record…and I consider myself pretty diligent when it comes to doing the homework and properly carrying out rituals. Besides what I’ve already suggested, I would also suggest giving a different system a try. Its not always your fault.