Strange, I have never woken up with marks or scratches on my body
Sometimes depends on the spirit. Often though when they do display jealousy if you as a magician set boundaries with them they will abide by it.
Itās easy to get lost thinking in terms of human emotions but itās really best understood as a contract. If youāre not willing to communicate terms that work for you the spirit will take advantage and demand everything to itās own benefit and why shouldnāt it?
But again depends on the spirit and what it is they are looking to get out of the deal
1 Like
I do think boundaries are important in any relationship but I really liked the way you described this as being a two way street and a relationship first and foremost. I think thatās something a lot of people overlook
For example I give offerings and spend time with my spirits just to be in communion with them. I spend time with them regularly not just when I want something because I geniunely love and respect them.
7 Likes
[ but what if Magician get jealous on another spiritās lovers for example 
What would be the spiritās reaction ?]
Lol this is kind of why I set boundaries with my spirit spouse. He has close to 30 wives total counting myself on the other side alone. Thatās not even counting extra marital affairs
So I know thereās at least 29 other women and counting
So when this spirit started displaying signs of being jealous of my physical husband through attacking my husband in his dreams and telling him that I belonged to him etc
I had a chat with Mani (the spirit) about this immediately! I was basically like dude you have 29 other women plus youāre going to resent me this 1 other man for physical company while I walk this path here?? Not cool
So he seemed to understand Not many problems for my husband since. Some but not a lot nothing too major
Mani tolerates my husband now I wouldnāt say like but tolerates
But this is waaay better than when I first got married and my poor husband was getting into car accidents every single day. I was spiritually unaware of the cause at the time Now I suspect Mani was behind it
2 Likes
There is a big possibility ā¦ uhh i should be prepared when i will be in realitionship with human male and spirit ā¦
3 Likes
Jesus I thought you were talking about me there for a second 
1 Like
I donāt wanted to open a new topic for this but, guys after this night I have to ask somethingā¦
What does it means when during sex, near to the end you start see your partnerās sigil (Belial), and then He exactly ācommandsā, that put it āunder youā before you orgasms, because some tasty sexual fluids (He didnāt really ātoldā this, it was just a strong āthoughtā)?
It is also something like an āofferingā, anyway? I have not seen it so often among most liked āoffersā, but it can be one, right?
Lol yeah your name jumped out at me and I was thinking āDamn does Mani have internet access across the void?ā Lmao
Donāt worry I figured it was coincidence
Although according to hermeticism there are no coincidences āchance is a but a name for a law not recognizedā
Sorry for the confusion. I donāt suspect you are responsible for my husbandās bad luck
Besides I call my spirit guide Mani after the norse deity of the moon because heās a lunar spirit. He introduced himself to me more with a title than a name and I figured he needed a name that sounded like a name and less like a really long title
1 Like
Well now you have more of a heads up than I did so youāre good
1 Like
Well often times sigils can be written in blood which is another type of bodily fluid so perhaps heās asking you to empower your sigils with your sexual fluids as part of your magick from now on?
Or at least experiment with it for awhile and see how it goes
Bodily fluids hold energy and life force (prana) so it makes sense it would empower them
2 Likes
There was blood on His sigil already, but based on what you said, you may be absolutely right. It makes sense.
Some days ago Iāve had a bad feeling that Iāmā¦ āneglectā Him. Donāt know why am I so āemotionalā and caring towards Them. For example every time when Iām about to sleep, before I close my eyes, I wish lot of goods- and Iāve always repeat how much I love [all of] Them (during I saw Them before my eyes, all of Them one by one) and how glad Iām because Theyāre with me.
Some days ago Iāve had a bad feeling that Iāmā¦ ā neglect ā Him.
Possibly He do felt this, and wanted me to ācalm downā?
It can be difficult juggling all the relationships with the various dieties you work with but it gets easier. Just like any other relationship sometimes they ask for more attention when they need it.
For me personally learning more about jungian archetypes helped me tremendously in balancing out the relationships. I was able to see which spirit guide was a gate keeper to which archetype. But Iām also less of an appeasement follower and more of an embodiment follower.
Each relationship with each spirit is also uniquely different but you still need to spend time with everyone. Just like you need to make time for your friends,your school work, your parents, your spouse,your child, your boss etc
To further illustrate my point I only engage in sex magic with Mani who is the gatekeeper to my magician archetype thatās just how our relationship works
But I spend time with Freya my beauty goddess by having a spa day to myself every friday and itās just like having girl time with any other girl friend. Iāll light a candle for her play soft music in her honor give myself a mani pedi then say a prayer of thanks to her before blowing out the candle. I do this with Freya only because she is the gatekeeper to my lover archetype
Thatās just how I see it thatās what worked for me
Try it out and experiment until you find something that works for you
Iām not saying you have to give up your sexual relationships though 
Yes, these relationships between us are interesting and we have to find a balance. Iām sure that Iām on a good way to find it. In our ārelationshipā and under Their Mentorship, everything has its time. Teachings, practice, working on the Astral, finding out truth pieces about my Godself (which is a really important) etc. - then relaxing and/or spending some quality time with Together.
For example Lucifer has several āroleā in my life, very diverse:
While Belial is my Husband, and Abaddon is my Patron and Lover etc.
Deities are calls me, so Iām working with only those who did this. Theyāre mostly my relatives in some way, but I have sex almost all of Them. Of course, it isnāt everything about sex, at all! Do not misunderstand.
I handle our relationships how the moment and our/my cause requires it (without any problems), and Iām really thirsty for truth, knowledge, power and everything what I have (or can) to know. So I never lose sight of my goal towards evoltuion.
And because I donāt really want serious relationships with humans (I do help them, protect them, giving them advices naturally, but canāt feel anything towards them at all), I spend my free time with my Family (with Deities).
3 Likes
@anon2593031 now that sounds awsome 
1 Like
@Morgana9 Oh do you mean the bath or my spa days with Freya? They are really nice I highly encourage you to try them out for yourself!
If you want more bath recipes thereās a book called āwater magicā by mary muryn that started me out. Feel free to inbox me if you want to talk more beauty magick I donāt want to take over this thread
1 Like
Both. Thanks for the book tipā¦ im running out of herbs can you believe it!! went in search of ingredients for recipe not done in a while turns out not there ā¦had a very sad face. 
1 Like
Iām so happy to hear Iām not alone in this. I have basically the same thing going on, just knowing that Iām with someone like that already that isnāt human. People in the past told me itās most likely from my past life and for me to move on, but deep in me every since I was even 4, I knew that there is someone important that ment a lot to me that I have no idea how to explain to anyone. At first for a moment I thought to be an imaginary friend but as I grew I knew for a fact that no itās very different then an imaginary friend and yes this has affected my life but in positive light. But even to this day, this person that I feel I have such a strong connection to remains in the dark.
2 Likes
Iām happy to meet with a person with similar emotions and experiences, too.
People in the past told me itās most likely from my past life and for me to move on, but deep in me every since I was even 4, I knew that there is someone important that ment a lot to me that I have no idea how to explain to anyone.
I know that feeling. Lot of people kept pushing me to try to find a āflesh and bloodā person because I āneedā them in my life sooner or later. Well, this is not true. They asking for this because they need this, ignoring your own emotions and freedom. While you can evolve, learn and reach many goals in your life.
What Iām figured out that I easily connecting to other demons, gods, and for some reasons, Iām opened towards them in this way, not like with humans (guess why my relationships with them always ended up with sexual actions). I living my intimate life in this way, without needing it from anyone ālivingā in the material plane. Which is a very good thing from my view.
Your example is also a very beautiful one, which shows that how strong relationships can be; ignoring dimensions, worlds and time. Iām sure that youāll find him sooner or later. With following your senses, heart and your opened mind will lead you towards your chosen one, just trust in yourself. (And be careful - because there is a chance that some of them will try to make you believe that they are your ācosmicā lover)
3 Likes
I fully agree 100%. And each time Iām with that flesh and blood lover, it never satisfied me on all levels. Thank you for your kind words and trust me I know and understand.
I basically feel the same way as you do. I connect to gods and demons and other beings quite easily and have had relationships with some in the past that not only helped me grow but healed some stuff I was and still a bit today am going threw. I am hoping one day I will, hopefully in this life time and more so very very very soon. 
2 Likes