Sweeten Honey Jar as a Torture Device?

I’ve tried binding him. No dice. Now the mirror box I may give a shot. Trouble is he is very stubborn and strong willed. I know I can get to him but he can and will resist if he wants to.

I would question if he is trying to get me obsessed. I mean he already knows my feelings and all. And there is no way on earth he would have known about the jar. He has nothing to gain from doing one and honestly he is paranoid about his “wife” finding out we were talking let alone met up. So the last thing on earth he would want is encouraging me in any fashion right now. His birthday was end of May. I said Happy Birthday to him (I have to take back what I said earlier. Only twice in 35 years did I reach out first. So I stand corrected). A test in sorts to see if he was still upset at me. Thinking if we were in any way meant to talk or communicate that the door would be open. Not a word said back. So if he is doing anything. He does not realize it.

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That’s very possible. I think the mirror box would likely help, it will reflect those thoughts and feelings and energy’s right back to himself so that you don’t get affected by them.

Tip: aluminum foil works great and is less expensive than mirrors. A clay poppet can be made from flour, water and salt and then decorated or dressed to represent him if personal concerns, or photos are unobtainable - I tend to think the effort put into the poppet makes a stronger link than a photo anyways.

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Oh Ive had some screaming fits. Lashing out in the shower lol. Oh i’ve done it. I keep telling myself that regardless of everything I feel Im in control what whether I contact him or not. Right now that seems to be only power I do have, and im not doing it. Regardless of how tempted I get I do resist.

I do think I want in someways to reject him. To actually look him in the eye and basically tell him to fuck off. But since we live on opposite coasts that isn’t even a reality. I don’t feel like I have ever had the final say and if im totally honest with myself. It kind of pisses me off. He starts shit and then in a way puts his hand over my mouth. Need to get over that too I suppose. Ego? Yeah. But I do recognize that so I suppose its a start.

I think im gonna adopt Pooh as my spirit cartoon guide lol

I think I will make on of those up. I do have a photo printed of him but prefer the poppet anyways.

Im willing to try anything at this point.

Why do I feel the slight need to use a gingerbread man cookie cutter though LOL. I wont as that feels like cheating a bit but still

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Lol. I’d do whatever you feel called to do, if thst means tossing the picture into your box with the poppet or burning it or something odd, I’d do thst too.

A cookie cutter might be cheating a little, but the intent is everything. I don’t have a cookie cutter like thst, but forming it from my bare hands causes me to think about what I’m doing the entire time so- go with what feels right for you :slight_smile: good luck.

Im gonna use my hands and full intent. It was just hilarious that the gingerbread man popped in my head as an option lol

I may burn the photo and include the ash.

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You can write a letter of all the stuff you want to say to get the last word. mail it to him or not is your choice. Or burn it in a ritual. At least you get your final say. Handwritten of course. Makes a big difference that it be hand written instead of typed.

Or make a clay putty doll of him. say what you gotta say and stab the doll to destruction. =o)

then again you might get ideas and do this instead. lol image your imagination going wild in fantasy land. haha.

I’ve tried the letter. It’s just not the same for me. I can’t get that same “effect”. It’s going to boil down to if he ever contacts me again. IF IF IF he ever tries to relay any feelings for me my way in the future. Then will I get the satisfaction of telling him no. Even in a dream would be satisfying at least.

I’m actually going to make the poppet doll here in a few moments.

My imagination drives me insane lol

with the letter you get your say. no talk back from him.

Yeah but speaking my mind, telling him no and walking away without his getting a word in edgewise. Gotta admit that it’s very appealing. Not likely to happen but i’ve written letters, yelled at this picture. Like I said im sure it’s my ego. I guess in that aspect I do care too much. Work on that? Sure of course. But it’s where im at right now.

let it all go . just like dropping a piece of paper in the trash. it’s that easy. Just allow yourself to let go. you seem to not wanting to give yourself permission to move on. Making excuses is what i see now. It’s not cuz of where you are now. It’s cuz you don’t want to make step forward. =o) Your in head thinking , analysing too much. your not present in body to do the action. That’s why it’s not releasing.

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You’re right. I am. I took the pages of what I have already written. They said pretty much everything anyways. Ripped them up and threw them away. Even spit on them.

Gonna make my poppet up and the box. Only because I want the “extra” help.

Thanks!! You seem like a really cool guy. I appreciate the advice!!

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this is brilliant…i love this idea!

That moment when you realize “It’s not me, It’s you”

Did a war water spell last new moon on neighbor. Looked outside this morning and there’s a moving truck there. Not sure if he (main target at least though they could all leave for all I care) is moving out or what as when I saw it he immediately got in the truck and left. His car is still parked at the house though. Never spoke the guy ever and it worked.

My best friends sisters son is gravely ill (his nephew). Did a jar and he is now improving. Long ways to go and still have to charge the jar day after tomorrow. I’ve seen the boy about a dozen times over the years. It’s working so far.

I could not get someone I loved to speak to me. (That I was intimately/emotionally connected to) Don’t mind me as im just pouting a moment also pondering how magic/spells works (and doesn’t). I do have him in a mirror box and the dreams so far has stopped so there’s that. And im not undoing it. That’s how I know it’s not me. And seeing this come to light helps me not get discouraged with myself. And i’m not discouraged at all. He is just very very strong willed. And that’st fine. I’m not interested in fighting with him in that in any way. More like being presented with a bit of info and simply saying “gotcha” and that’s it.

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I’m glad the dreams stopped. It does seem to indicate that he has been focusing on you a lot. Keeping him from projecting that onto you seems like the best course of action for putting a stop to it once and for all. Hopefully in time you will be able to completely heal and move along in your own endeavors.

Good job :slight_smile: You’re doing well.

I think he has too. The dreaming part has been really weird and “new”

I’m still thinking of him but not nearly like I was. It has calmed down a bit.

I needed to see my spells working and that I am a strong witch. And that I didn’t “fail” but just tried to go against a brick wall lol That’s ok im working on the wrecking ball (the bitch) right now. Him, i’ve given up on for at least now. Possibly permanently. I don’t want to say never as im allowed to change my mind. But i’m not interested at this time. But with her i just will not show any mercy.

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This is a question taken from a place of genuine interest…if you’re done with him and have given up on him, whether temporarily or permanently, does it really matter if she’s still with him? Would you ever give up on her as well or is that not an option? If she’s the reason why he won’t talk to you, or at least one of the reasons and you’ve given up on him, is she worth expending your energy on?

I’m gonna sound a bit cruel. And i’m ok with that. I’m done for now. And a small part of it is also out of curiosity.

It goes back 35 years. I have always hated and resented her. And she deserves every single thing coming her way. She ruined him. It’s hard for others to understand really without seeing the before and after (now) as I have. I literally grew up watching that shit go down between them two. That marriage was done and over within a couple of years. I know she is one of the reasons he doesn’t speak to me. Not fully. He is scared of his own feelings. I know what he said to me when we were talking last year. I know how he is in my presence. He does not stay away for ever. He is mad at me right now. And that’s fine. I deserve it. However, right now I want nothing to do with him. I’m bored with it all.

Will I ever give up on her? Not if I keep seeing results or am told by the powers to be to stop. Until then. I’m gonna keep going. This is my revenge on her. She took someone i desperately loved and trashed him. No its on.

Got through again you little shit… Grrrr lol

U gonna go through cycles of on again off again cursing. lol. it’s how human process events that hurt us. =o) enjoy the ride of which may or may not be fun. People have different taste. :crazy_face: