Stop treating this forum like Wattpad 🙄

[Mystic-Void]

@Purple

The modern occultist is by consequence an oft-maligned and desperate creature, deeply lonely and despondent, a misfit, turning to the strange and pathologically irrational when all more normative means of improving one’s lot in and outlook upon life have failed.

Every real occultist as always been like that. At least now we will not be burn at the stake for practicing.

I get the feeling you believe the old occultist of yesteryear was this sweet smelling loner genius? He never was. He was a crazy recluse that smell like pee living a vase or some rich asshole’s shed.

Being an occultist as not changed. We don’t need to painted in any rosey tint.

Yup, I must actually agree with Purple. Occultists always were the weird loners ,because they were either prosecuted and executed for their beliefs and practices , or pushed aside by people who found the craft unnerving, “evil”, “satanic” etc.
And while today, we aren’t afraid for our heads, I don’t think most occultists feel confident talking about their craft. I’ve seen people in here seeking advice on how they should “come out” to their friends and family, so you get a pretty good idea…

[Strylyn]

As someone new who is working hard to get ahead I agree. I have a hard time sometimes knowing what are realistic expectations.

[NeoFightTheNyophite]

Exactly. Its not that in trying to harm anyone but if you want to learn I can make that happen, just maybe not in the way you want?

[4hmagm]

Shoot for the stars and when you are brushing the dirt away from the fall you will realise that the journey has changed you.

[anon48079295]

Maybe I should start larping as an all-powerful gatekeeper or an extremely black dark magician from the 27th layer of hell…seems others are doing it.

[NeoFightTheNyophite]

Impudent fool! Im from the 28th layer of hell YOU KNOW NOTHING

[ReyCuervo]

I KNEW IT!

That kid wasn’t larping, in my humble opinion. He was just too high and probably had some mental issues. I’m not defending him, by the way, but yeah. That dude needed help nobody here can provide.

[anon48532061]

@Mystic-Void

I get it people, you want to write your fanfictions ,but it’s just not the right platform for that… And it gets completely out of control when you start to emotionally abuse random forum members ,telling them that they will be cursed and/or visited by entities that will fuck their lives raw.

The problem arises from the fact that a forum is a place where freedom of speech (according to legal frameworks) is promoted, and magic itself is a matter where freedom of speech is not that usual irl.
If we were to consider that the “fanfic” is not appropriate content, then we need a “magic” police to clarify what is fake and what isn’t.

That means that there is going to be some level of disagreement and discernment, now that magic is a broad spectrum of spiritual practices from all around the world.

There is also this problem with ego coming from lots of magicians (including myself).

If someone (not troll) says something that they don’t agree with, people tend to shame them -accusing of lack of knowledge or larping- or they explicit or implicitly threaten the person via public message or pm (normally these latter ones tend to be newbies in the forum or trolls).

Even though I see your point, OP, I think that the problem of the ego still is there and it is unfixable.

[4hmagm]

Instead of finding a go to revenge spell maybe ask spirits what would help these people the most and try to lift each other up and grow as a species.

[4hmagm]

Wow did not expect to go all touchie feely there.

[Faustus]

@anon48532061

That means that there is going to be some level of disagreement and discernment,

That’s exactly it. Reality policing in some official capacity is a slippery slope. So it’s up to individuals to learn to exercise discernment. I have my own metric for determining what ideas are useful and which ones tend to lead people into fantasy land.

The metric that i use is somewhat binary. Does it contribute to a tangible result or does it not. If not, then I will disregard it outright. When that cannot be answered with some degree of clarity then I am going to look on it with suspicion. This is something that I apply to my own stuff too.

[4hmagm]

A strong intuition will give you more information than anyone else can.

[Mystic-Void]

@4hmagm

Wow did not expect to go all touchie feely there.

Awwww

@anon48532061

If we were to consider that the “fanfic” is not appropriate content, then we need a “magic” police to clarify what is fake and what isn’t.

No, I don’t think this is necessary.
We don’t need a “magick police” or anything like that at all. I agree, some stuff is hard to label as “fake” or “real” ,but at least we should do something about the topics and claims that smell like bullshit from miles apart.

[Mystic-Void]

@4hmagm May I ask… What are you talking about? Are you throwing quotes in here? (I like them, but I wanna determine if they’re targeted at some one specific or not cause I don’t get it😗 )

[Strylyn]

I had not taken this into consideration. I agree.

[Akashiel]

@Mystic-Void

we should do something about the topics and claims that smell like bullshit from miles apart.

Unfortunately, that’s subjective. Even if majority see something as bullshit, there’s bound to be a few that see that shit as roses. And once again we arrive at an argument of who’s spiritual insight and opinions are superior…

[4hmagm]

@Mystic-Void
No one specific just saying what comes to mind does appear that not all are my thoughts though. I would have not said anything about growing as a species.

[Mystic-Void]

@Akashiel

Unfortunately, that’s subjective. Even if majority see something as bullshit, there’s bound to be a few that see that shit as roses. And once again we arrive at an argument of who’s spiritual insight and opinions are superior…

Okay, yeah you got me… You’re right.

@4hmagm

@Mystic-Void
No one specific just saying what comes to mind does appear that not all are my thoughts though. I would have not said anything about growing as a species.

It’s ok, do your thing. I enjoy reading those.

[anon48079295]

I tend to believe that there’s majority subjective, but then there’s also things people should know is straight bullcrap, like I do get the live and let live, but there’s a point where you have to be out of your mind to not smell the fresh cow crap.

[Mystic-Void]

@anon48079295 and @Akashiel
You both have valid points and I really can’t determine who’s “more” right.
So I value your opinion
What do YOU think would be a good solution for this problem?
Ignoring/Muting such posts?
Like… I thought of that also, but I feel like we ought to help people see right through false claims like these that could affect their practice… That’s all I’m sayin.