Shiva is the king of Yogis, meditating upon the nature of Being and the Supreme Essence. he has a son, Ganesha, a wife Parvati, has a symbolic representation, and is an aspect of Creation, if you look to Ancient Egypt, you will find similar mythos, now can you truly tell me you find similarities in Lucifer to this? Shiva is more powerful than the Archangels in terms of vibrations, to truly experience him mystically takes devotion that will have you at some point leave your materialism.
Lucifer on the other hand, encourages you to be human, acts like your bud, gets almost never angry
I never said they were the exact same. I said there is a connection.
See Lucifer to me is the absolute opposite of that⌠Lucifer encourages me to ascend, not indulge in carnality. He does absolutely get mad. Trust me, Iâve worked with him long enough to piss him off a time or two. It seems to me our experiences are on such vastly opposite ends of the spectrum.
The thing is, the original poster has worked with both Shiva and Lucifer and didnât really feel that they were similar. While there are people who believe Lucifer is Shiva, there are also many who donât and the people who make these conclusions donât just go by research. I personally donât think that Lucifer and Shiva are the same both from a research and spiritual standpoint. There really arenât many similarities between the two and both their missions have distinct differences, especially with how they go about them.
You also have to consider that there are many other deities in Hinduism who teach wisdom and things of that nature so just going off that isnât a good approach. I respect you believing that these two entities are the same but donât downplay someone who has a difference in opinion.
Whew, my ego was way out of whack last night. I apologize to you and @anon48079295 itâs not my place to say anyoneâs wrong or right. Hell, who knows, I may be the wrong one. You both made very valid points and I respect that.
I second that, and would also emphasize the importance of the information you get from the spirits in question. While some people maintain that not everything they tell us is to be taken as gospel (which I agree with btw), I am of the opinion that they do tell the truth unless provoked to do otherwise (by a dickhead practitioner who needs to be taught a lesson, for instance, or by people who project too much and understand too little), but what they tell us doesnât always make sense to us, or not right away. Opinions differ, this is mine based on my own experiences and understanding and is neither superior to anyone elseâs, nor is it set in stone.
Lastly, some information may be very true and valid only to our own individual path and progress, and not necessarily to others. While it may sound ludicrous to one person to even mention two spirits in the same sentence, others may have received gnosis that hints at a deep connection that they find valuable within the context of their own workings. By this I do not mean fantasizing or leaping to convenient conclusions out of laziness or emotional attachment to a particular stance.
These debates are endless and I am not looking to take part in one. All Iâm saying is that personal gnosis is just that - personal. Some may verify it and go âyes, my sentiments/ experiences exactly! Shiva and Lucifer are totally like two harmonics of the same tone, of course!â while others eyeroll themselves into the next dimension upon hearing this. No view can apply to everyoneâs standpoint, and I donât think anyone can claim to have found an overarching conclusion that puts everything in its right place. I think at the end of the day we have to take different views into consideration without losing touch with our own personal gnosis and gut feeling, to an extent.
I believe all experiences are meant to be personal but personal doesnât mean accurate, by that I mean if someone experiences say Belial and Aphrodite as the same person and someone else doesnât. No matter what one of them is wrong, one of them is facing a mimic or something claiming both at the same time. Itâs not something you can deny or well you can but the occult isnât purely subjective thereâs a mix of objective otherwise SPG wouldnât exist.
