well i have worked with Shiva and Lucifer separately, also Bhairav Aghora Shiva, they are different in terms of energy and vibrations from what ive gathered
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shukra i meditated upon his mantra, very good for mental issues
Try calling them together. Then you could really get a feeling for all of their energy. Then you can truly feel, see and hear what is the same and different. It would be really interesting to see what you find 
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i could but i dont need to (for a variety of reasons) however, i can tell you they reside in coplete different realms
its like comparing a kid in china with a Boer from South Africa, they are extremely away from each other
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Darn I was looking forward to reading what you found 
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dont worry!
Learning to scan them helps too, because a name can change but energy at their core will remain the same in terms of sensations, elemental energies, etc.
Itâs what many in the psionic community did with scanning by using multiple usernames/accounts and having each other scan the new accounts, names may change but energy signature and what it entails doesnât.
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Venus is also AphroditeâŚLucifera means the same as Lucifer and refers to Selene who is the Lunar face or aspect of HecateâŚ
How can we as humans truly know?
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I reject the idea of the human mind being unable to comprehend these matters, if a person believes their own mind to be incapable thatâs fine but I donât think itâs fair to collectively group everyoneâs comprehension skills. Some people simply want to over-complicate things or else it looses its wonder, not everything needs to be complicated.
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So many opinions, presented as absolute facts. Claiming that nobody thinks thereâs a connection between Shiva and Lucifer⌠lol. Thereâs quite a few of us who do. Stop looking at names, planets, subjective mess as solid proof. Look at actions. Teachings. The mission of the entity. Shiva and Lucifer are connected. Iâve seen it. How many thousands of different opinions on this site exist? How many people on opposite sides of their specific argument produce results? Many. If you really truly knew Lucifer, youâd know that at his heart heâs a liberator, knowledge giver, rebellious teacher, not some hell bound spawn. Heâs ancient. Lol. All of these things, which describe what Lucifer is, also describe who Shiva is at his core. I could honestly go on and on. No text in this world can explain to you what Lucifer is or what he is about. Some obscure bible references are what most people go off of. Or other peopleâs experiences on this site. Or other peopleâs stories that align with your own outlook. No. Get to know him before you make any absolute statements.
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This doesnât really make them the same person, thatâs like saying all psychopomp deities are the same cause actions, teachings, and âmissionâ of the entity. Connected doesnât mean theyâre the same people. Your comment is no much fact as those who do not believe theyâre the same lol.
Research is just as valuable, no pretty much more valuable than a feeling based off general connections as actions and a âmissionâ In my opinion without research coupled with experience/confirmations, one without the other is still blind.
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Research⌠of what? What is there of Lucifer or Shiva to âresearch.â Thatâs such a silly word. Research in spiritual matters is overwhelmingly biased. I can produce some half-assed research right now that completely aligns with my views. Does it matter if I tailored it to align with my own beliefs? It should. But it doesnât. In this life we should base our beliefs on what we experience. I have experienced the connection. You should really experience it for yourself.
Research by any means, even confirmation of experiences with other energy workers, donât confuse yourself, Iâve experienced Lucifer and Shiva for years already, however. I donât believe one should reject actual research texts, their own experiences, experiences of others, divination, itâs all forms of research.
My point is, one without the other is still blind faith, if the word âresearchâ is silly to you that says enough for me lol, Iâll leave that alone lol.
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People in this forum and in many other Youtube channels connect Lord Shiva and Lucifer. But in truth Lord Shiva is venerated as MahadevâŚor the Lord of all the gods⌠He doesnât differentiate between the forces of light and dark and accepts as well as works with both the dark divinities as well as beings of light.
I wonât say Shukra as a planet but Lord ShukracharyaâŚis LuciferâŚwho is known as the Lord as well as teacher of the daemonic divineâŚin my meditations with LuciferâŚI have received the message that he is ShukracharyaâŚnot the planet Shukra⌠But Shukracharya. There is difference. Since he has varied aspectsâŚthis is just another name. Donât confuse Shukra the planet with Shukracharya.
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i did, very well in fact, and Shiva as well, theyre not the same
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that makes sense
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Listen, I get what youâre saying. I really truly do. Obviously you didnât get my message. Research is a useless term when youâre talking about Lucifer. There is nothing ABSOLUTE about him. Everyone experiences him differently. Everyone has a different origin story for him. Itâs all about personal experience. That is whatâs most important. If I read a post about, letâs say King Belial, then I go to experience him for the first time, wouldnât you say that my experiences might mirror what I read? Instead, I suggest reaching out to the beings directly with questions before ever researching anything about it. It creates bias, which limits experience. Afterwards, comparing experiences is highly encouraged. Once again, I get what youâre saying and where youâre coming from. But in MY experiences with Lucifer (which are daily), thereâs a connection.
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did you experience Shiva in his realm as well though?
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I did⌠Iâve experienced them separately. I believe that they both exist, on their own, while being connected.
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i believe theyre connected too in a way, doesnt make them the same
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