yes, I agree, however, since this is too much of a stretch it is highly unlikely, because then id ask, ok, then since the ganges flows from shiva, and Siddartha took 1 of many shivas teachings, since theres lots of gods in that mythos, then who are the others in relation to the infernal, and then, who are the Asuras since the Mahadev is Lucifer
im sorry, but this does not sound accurate at all
I agreeā¦ I personally have experienced both, like I said before. But, I presented information in a repulsive way. So allow me to explain my thought process from a much more reasonable standpointā¦
I believe that each of our experiences are unique in their own way. We experience the exact same magical systems, differently. Our world caters to our beliefs. If, in my mind, I see Lucifer and Shiva as being the same or similar, my experiences with them will match that. Of course on the opposite side, youāll experience them differently. That doesnāt mean that Iām right or youāre right. Itās simply the individual experience. We all dabble with forces that are difficult to describe, difficult to understand. Itās an attempt to know the unknowable. Which has caused more wars and arguments than anything else. Back to my point, in my biased mind I can see Lucifer everywhere. In all magical systems. Lucifer to me is just one of many names of a much more ancient entity. What Iām getting at is maybe Shiva isnāt a mask of Lucifer, maybe Lucifer is a mask of Shiva. Of course, thatās a controversial statement, but you get what I mean. Iām not exclusively correct. None of us are. This forum is a great tool for us to compare experience, without hostility.
thats where i differ, my experiences are based on gnosis, not beliefs, the mythos are just an extra to further explain
My comment was general to my own view on occult as a whole not to your comment.
Ok then 
Gnosis is the foundation for my beliefs. Which in turn, makes gnosis the foundation of my experience.
Same, my beliefs are built off experience, research, and external confirmations from other practitioners without frontload.
beliefs predate your gnosis in your statement here though
i have already also explained their massive differences, even on this forum people have constantly said that Demons are in a sense closer to us than angels, as angels arein higher planes, and youre telling me, that Shiva, from whom the holy ganges comes and ends in Varanasi, Shiva, who battled the Creator Brahma, Shiva whose followers as Saduhs leave everything to know him, Shiva who is King of Yogis and meditates still upon the Divine Essence, is equivalent to Lucifer, the Lord of Hell who resides on a plane closer to ours and is more relatable for most who work with him. Lucifer who does not require you to drop everything to follow him, he works at best individually with what you need.
if you still think theyre the same then you might as well invoke shiva for a while and see what happens, but i highly doubt most here have meditated upon him for a while, Shiva resides on a plane higher than the Archangels.
I always found that ādemons are closer to us than angelsā to be funny nonsense but thatās just me. It just screams LHP bias lol.
Lucifer doesnt want to be Shiva, thats why hes Lucifer 
actuallyā¦theres truth to that imo and ime i think
I find it not true at all lol. But then again closeness is based off the individual and which they put more work into bonding with. Otherwise in a general way no angels and demons are not further or closer to humanity as a race, demons, angels, gods exist on the same plane lol. Higher and lower planes are just peopleās way of trying to explain how fast vibrations move.
actually Archangel Michael cannot enter hell i think, but maybe you mean that demons dont all reside in hell which i feel is correct
He very much can, hell isnt a plane itās a nation in the etheric. He can enter it just as Canadians can enter the US. He has to follow the rules of the nation he enters just as Lucifer would have to follow the rules of Michaelās home.
Infernal demons differ from duat demons from Mesopotamian demons, etc. their homes differ as well.
this is something he told you?
He didnāt need to tell me Iāve been to both with both of them. Same with those I had tag along to confirm.
Ahhhh, interesting!
which 1 you like better, Heavens or Hells?
Neither, the infernal is too industrial for my taste and the judeo pantheon is too strict for me. I prefer jinnestan or the Celtic worlds.