Gallery Of Magick books not working for me

Hi @shinri Thanks so much for your wonderful explanation. I love the way you understand it.

You think your reply was long? Hold my beer :grin:

I’ll be back in few minutes to explain my point of view :metal:

Hi again @shinri Allow me to explain my point but from a different angle.

When GoM started publishing books, their method was mainly based on NAP - New Avatar Power - book. The author had no clue what he or she was talking about except that they had to copy the same structure of ritual, from NAP, hoping to provide practical and popular magick book that would sell. When they first started, there was no emotional aspect in the rituals at all.

Next stage in their writing, obviously after some research, was using the most common classic magick. Focus on the end result and the feeling of the wish fulfilled.

Later on, they added the "emotional transmutation’ technique. At this point, they already separated their style completely from NAP ritual structure. And formed all their rituals around the "emotional transmutation’ method. And published more books under many different names.

In my view, all authors of the “practical magick” books found now, are the same person who started it all and used the name “Damon Brand”. All of them. Including Hargrove, Archer, Winterfield, 'The Order" etc But that’s just a side note.

What I want to say is that the idea of a group of occultists practicing magick for decades and knowing all secrets is wonderful. People love that. And the author used to write FICTION as he stated in his early books. So it’s easy for him to come up with a back story to satisfy readers. But if you’ll examine the books and the content over the years, you’ll find that he started by simple copy-paste of NAP then step by step to came up with those secrets as he goes :slight_smile:

Regarding the technique itself. Magick can be done in many different ways. But the most popular and probably the most effective. Is to attach a powerful emotion to a thought/intention in a trance state then release it. Simple as that. Nothing more. However, emotions are also a language. Each emotion means something different to the subconscious. The feeling of joy and pleasure doesn’t mean the same thing, like anger and rage or hate, for example. When you feel each emotion, you’re not only generating energy, you’re also sending a message to the subconscious. This message is then transferred to the spirit you work with or the divine or “the all”, whatever you work with or believe in.

The meaning of each emotion is decided based on the experience of the collective consciousness of humans as species. And also based on the experience of the individual. But in most cases, they have the same meaning for everyone.

The main theory behind the emotional transmutation, as a technique used in magick, not by the GoM, but in magick in general, because they do it wrong. Is that first, you - banish/curse - the undesired situation. Then you attract the desired end result. That’s how this is done correctly. You can even see it symbolically in almost each and every ritual that a witch or sorcerer performs since ages ago.

Why the way GoM are using it is wrong, in my opinion? Because they do it in one ritual. Meaning, you would be generating negative emotions while focusing on the undesired situation. BUT in your mind, your desired end result is there. That’s why you’re doing the ritual in the first place. So instead of banishing the undesired situation, you end up generating negative emotions about what you want, because it’s in the back of your mind the whole time. When that happens, you make things worse.

When does that happen? It happens when what you want is very important to you. Something that you can’t just take out of your mind, not even for a minute. As I explained before, for example, urgent financial problems or difficult breakups etc If it’s something under your mental control, you will perform the banishing/cursing of the undesired situation correctly because you will only have that in mind. Then later on in the ritual, you’ll bring the end desire to mind with the corresponding feeling and all goes ok.

I hope I’m making sense to you.

By using the ritual this way, with this emotional transmutation method, you can see how things could backfire. What occultist and magicians do to avoid that, is doing two rituals instead of one. We have rituals to banish and curse, and rituals to attract and create.

The emotional transmutation technique will generate all kinds of mental/emotional fireworks, all the wonderful effects you want. Feeling good, energy is amazing etc However, subconsciously, things could be in complete chaos! And you would only know when you see things starting to get worse or if you’re lucky, nothing happening at all.

Does it work? Yes. Is it the best way to do magick? That’s up to you and each practitioner. In my opinion, it is not. But it sure generates wonderful feeling, enough for people to defend it. We all love feeling good and we believe what we feel. That’s the strength and weakness of this method. If it works, it will work very well. If it doesn’t, shit will hit the fan !

Instead of that, I personally prefer traditional magick. A ritual to banish and a ritual to attract. Simple, clear and it works perfectly. :slight_smile:

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Hmm, interesting points. I’m a little short on time now, but I’ll come back to you with a more involved reply. I actually agree with many of your points, particularly that first banishing an unwanted situation prior to attracting a new one is a good way to work.

I think the issue people often have when they are struggling to manifest something is that they do not realize they are trying to fill a hole that already contains something else, whether that be an internal or an external thing (likely both, in many cases). E.A.'s gatekeeper working demonstrates this well I think - he first worked with Abaddon, who is known as the destroyer, before now moving on to Lucifuge Rofocale, who to my understanding is good with finances. You’d have to ask him, but I would assume that many “blockages” were cleared away that Lucifuge will now work to fill for him.

I’ll give my other thoughts in a bit, good conversation :slightly_smiling_face:

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Hello, hope your day has been good. I’ll give my thoughts on a few of your points now.

It seems that our primary area of disagreement with emotional transmutation is whether or not negative emotions should be involved in the process. Now, correct me if I am wrong, but you believe that by involving negative emotions in a ritual that is intended to attract a positive outcome, the emotions could become “mixed-up” and lead to subconscious chaos, presumably leading to a “backlash” of some sort.

I disagree because the negative emotions are transformed via the process of transmutation. In this way, what is being communicated to the spirit/subconscious/Divine/what-have-you is the desire for change from one state to another. Rather than just sending it the desired end result with emotional energy attached to it, you communicate the entire range of the change you desire. This does not lead to subconscious chaos in my experience, likely because the negative emotions, the ones that would be causing this confusion, are no longer present at the end of the ritual, as they have been brought forth and transformed.

I should clarify as well that I do not base this reasoning entirely off of the experience I have in ritual. Much more important is the quality of results that I experience by working the magick. I have never had “shit hit the fan” when using this method, and I believe that to be nothing more than scaremongering. I have found the Gallery’s methods to be safe and effective.

I should also clarify that I do not believe this emotional transmutation to be the one and only way to work magick effectively. The technique has worked wonders for me, and that is why I share my knowledge of it, but by no means do I think that everyone has to use the methods that I do.

While I obviously do not know for certain if the Gallery author(s) are being truthful about their identity, I am of the opinion that they are sharing very genuine, powerful magick that has been developed and practice by more than a single individual, and that is based on many more source texts than NAP, as is mentioned in the books. The writing is of high quality, but more than anything, the magick is highly effective, and that is what matters more to me than anything else. The results I have obtained have been in-line with the powers of the various spirits as described, and the guidelines for magickal practice provided in the books and on the website have proven to be useful and quite practical.

I have not read NAP myself, but I find it hard to believe that the entirety of their works were created solely by copying the book. I believe Brand states in an interview that NAP was one of the first books that they found and worked magick from, and it makes sense then that it inspired their later developments, but I doubt that it contains the extensive Kabbalistic theory that is behind many of their other workings, or the descriptions of the powers of many angels, demons, and other spirits featured in their work. I have also not read the Hebrew source texts which they cite so I do not know for certain if the various Divine and angelic names they use are actually legitimate, but again I base my judgement on the quality of results the magick produces.

I do not believe the conspiracy theories that say that some secret order controls the whole world, or other such nonsense. I do find it reasonable to assume that people of a magickal bent like to get together to talk about magick, however, as that is literally what this forum is for. We didn’t always have the internet though, so people gathered in-person. Sometimes they give their groups names, like BALG, or the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, or the Gallery of Magick. I’m guessing the reasons range from egregore creation to ego-inflation, and everything in-between.

To add to my point in my previous brief post, I agree that blockages, if they are present, should first be cleared before attempting to manifest something new. However, I have found emotional transmutation to be effective in either sort of ritual - ones aimed at creation, and ones aimed at destruction. This seems to work because the emotions that have solidified blockages, in my experience, are distinct from the emotions that attract a new situation.

Feelings of grief around a breakup, for instance, are best to first transmute into peace prior to transmuting a feeling brought about by not having partner into one that would be caused by having a partner. If only the latter step is performed, the feelings of grief would still be present, blocking manifestation.

I’ll state again that this is simply my way of doing things, and that there are many valid ways of approaching magick. I’m not saying that you must practice how I do or believe what I believe, but I think that my reasoning is quite sound.

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Hi hope you’re doing great :slight_smile:

We agree to disagree regarding the emotional transmutation. I understand your point that the results follow the change that happens in the entire process. Which I disagree with. In my opinion, what follows this emotional change, is an illusion of change caused by the change in your emotions in the ritual. What causes results to manifest, again in my opinion, is the emotions you generate in the ritual. If the negative emotions are stronger, yes shit will hit the fan - big time! - even if you think this is scaremongering, and if the positive emotions were stronger you’ll see positive results. If you don’t produce enough emotions more than the other, both negative and positive emotions will cancel each other and nothing will happen. This is the very basic theory of how it works. The more elements you add to the ritual, the more variables you add to the formula and that affects your final results.

As I said before, this method could make wonders and clearly this is what you experienced. Happy for you. But unfortunately, this is not what all people are experiencing as far as I know from stories in forums and personal contact with practitioners who tried GoM books. For you, you can only believe your experience. But I think it’s not fair to ignore the reality of other people’s experiences just because you experienced something different.

In my previous posts I explained the reasons behind those mixed results. To the best of my knowledge and based on my own tests and experiments with it for a long time.

GoM has many fans that it’s almost a cult now. Their fans just can’t stand any negative word about them, it’s like you curse Jesus in a discussion with a Christian lol I understand the psychological motives behind such reaction and I mentioned it briefly in my previous posts People love to feel good, and the method used by gallery of magick have the effect of drugs on the mind. Extremely difficult to question or doubt and very difficult to criticize the ones who sell it.

You say that all that you mentioned is based on one single thing. That the rituals worked for you. And that doesn’t mean anything at all except that the rituals are well structured and you’re experienced enough to know what you’re doing to make it work. Yet, you go through their writings, their identity and defend everything about them without anything to support your claims. you repeat that you don’t know about this and you don’t know about that.
But all you know, all that you WANT to know, is that anything negative about GoM is wrong, very unlikely, conspiracy theories, scaremongering, nonsense… etc Without providing anything to support that. In your opinion, it’s just NOT. And that’s the way it is in your head.

Believe what you need to believe or want to believe. That’s your business.

For me, I have a different approach. I know why their rituals work and why they do not work. I know how their books are written and the sources of their material. I know because I researched all that for a long time while others just taking whatever is given to them and praise it or curse it. It’s a bad habit that I have since childhood. I need to understand it, examine it, test it, know how and why… before I can trust it and use it. Very exhausting and painful habit but very rewarding as well.

My personal experience in magick, which I’m grateful for and rarely mention, most people need several life times to have anything remotely close to it. What GoM are making public lately, I was practicing on a daily bases - alone or within private groups - for years and years long before the name “Gallery of Magick” existed. That’s really childs play for me. And most of the things I know, unfortunately, I can’t say in public. Including what I know about the source material behind GoM work. If I did, that would be a true disaster that their fans, such as yourself, would never forgive and it would destroy their whole business!!!

If anyone interested in, my recommended books from are “Archangels of Magick” - “Demons of Magick” - Magickal Attack. And maybe “Magickal Cashbook” for money magick. And you can use the “emotional transmutation” or not, that’s up to you. For me, never.

The only reason I even care to mention any of what I said here about this “emotional transmutation” B.S process, is because I understand exactly what it can do and what it can cause. The negative and positive effect, because I know exactly how it works and why it works. If people find this information useful, they’re welcome to use it and I’m glad to explain it in more detail if needed anytime.

For die-hard fans of GoM such as yourself who just want to hear praise and glory, I think you really should avoid discussing anything about GoM with me. I have enough religious zealots to deal with, I don’t need to add GoM fans to my plate at the moment.

That’s all I have to say about this subject. Wish you all the best. Goodbye :slight_smile:

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Hi, I wanted to revisit this thread to update for anyone reading this ever.
I finished the ritual as scheduled on April 30th. And I have to say that I avoided the financial disaster that was looming over me at the time of writing this thread. Not only that but I have found amazing financial opportunities and my financial situation is surely on the up and up.

So I conclude that the ritual works and what majority of people said, disruptions to make way for something awesome (as much as we hate to hear/read this) is true. Also I agree that when working with powerful entities, demons, angels, they bring about the change you desire and ask for but they aren’t necessarily as concerned with the disruptions that are caused or occur in your life due to the change happening. So I would say please keep this in mind when performing this ritual.

Thanks to everyone who responded with encouragement and support, I truly appreciate it and this forum!

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Damn cool!

As I was reading I kept thinking “Subjective Synthesis is a thing…” Clear intention is almost on par with a well performed ritual. The power of belief is ridiculous.

None of my rituals have “failed” because the ones that are yet to manifest are still bubbling away in the background. I choose to believe this, and so it is.

I also relate to seeing disruption and feeling dissapointment yet I choose to see it as a hidden blessing somehow. “Every disaster is a blessing in disguise” as Damon puts it. Powerful reframe.

My business has sat at an interesting plateau for the last year. Only a 15% increase despite having signed a contract worth $11.3M back in October 2017. I’m not sure why but I still choose to believe that it’s for the better and another route will be better for expressing my true will on an ongoing basis. I’ve had opportunity HURLED at me from all directions however, there’s abundance everywhere and that’s been the feeling of it all.

I’m still allowing a result I cast for around that same time to manifest involving a girl I’m still deeply in love with. Since then I’ve discovered polyamory and am in multiple open relationships with some women I’d be a fool to lose by going monagamous with just one. Everyone is happy and thriving emotionally and I choose to believe it’s setting the stage for something much better than what I had planned with her at the time. Had I gotten what I had asked for the relationship would have capsized. I understand the nature of women and modern relationships and it would have been an inevitable failure, until it isn’t…

Sallos delivers interesting results over a long period of time, I firmly believe he’s still working on what I’ve tasked him to do and he overdelivers in ways I would have never guessed at the time.

I’m a big fan of their current and I think there’s a lot more to the results than meets the eye. Some show up so rapidly it’s ridiculous yet others need to cook for a while and when they hit …they hit with miraculous power so long as you don’t shut them down by writing them off. I started out on my journey to get good with women back when I was 14, and now I’m to the point where people I’ve never met are asking me for advice, let alone my close friends… I could charge for the insight I’ve gained and it’s all come through spirits guiding me to the answers.

They work, though the biggest changes need to go through a sequence of events and that can take time. Resistance elongates it. Bit of a paradox really yet it is what it is. You are in the drivers seat however, always keep that in mind and as always: Be careful what you choose to believe.

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Hi Myra from this post where you say “I was not actually expecting to get much money” with that phrase you are already hobbling the magick and it gave you exactly what you were expecting. Try and do some work on your self to make yourself more open to receiving wealth you should really be going in to the ritual with an attitude of devine right to have what it is you are asking for someone once told me when you do magick as a human although you are asking for what you want and you want them to help you get it, you should still look at the ritual as if you are the creator and they are there to help you attain your goals so in that respect you are the most important part of the ritual therefor treat your self as Eric says as" a living God" because you are in the proccess of creating your new life of wealth and prosperity you are god at that point and they will help because YOU are the creator . Best of luck don’t give up regards Herbie

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What kind of “tweaks”?
Thanks in advance

Its on the Gallery of Magick Blog under Five Ways To Get Magick Working: Part and also The Art of Indirect Magick but actually all of their post have helped me over the years.

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Thanks a lot!

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Thank you for posting this, as I am sure it will be invaluable to many who may struggle with achieving success using emotional transmutation.
For me, it didn’t work. I understand others had success, but I gave it my all over and over again, and nothing.
I had and continue to have success with DOM. The straightforward approach of placing all intent, focus, visualization on the desired outcome ONLY, works for me.
One spirit clearly said " Don’t care how you feel know, tell me what you desire in the outcome". Since then I stuck with traditional method.
You clearly explain, a banish ritual may be needed, and that is brilliant.
The method has to vibe with the magician, if it doesn’t make sense in the mind, it won’t succeed in the magick.

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Thank you so much,

Yes I agree with you. The straight forward approach works perfectly well and much more effective in my opinion.

I believe the spirit you communicated with puts it beautifully …

GoM still get credit for trying to introduce something different and relatively easy, and works for some people. Transmutation technique aside, their books have lots of valuable information and explanation of many important elements.

Personally I enjoy reading their books but I’m not using their systems.

That is absolutely true :+1:

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How do I get basic visualization skills?
Do I meditate? Is there a book I should read?

I am pretty good at daydreaming but I cannot seem to focus it at all. Even trying just seems to make it all fall to crap.
Is there some way to learn this?

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Visualization is basically daydreaming, the difference is concentration on specific targeted scene, instead of allowing your mind to move freely from one subject to another. Plus, using your spiritual senses while you daydream… hearing, touch, smell, etc

The only way to get better at it, is by practice. Start with simple things, an object you’re familiar with, an event from your memory, then take it a step further… add more objects, try to re-structure the scene from memory instead of remembering it exactly as it happened. If the image is lost, get it back without using too much will power or force. Allow your imagination to take over and lose conscious control as much as possible.

It’s like playing a musical instrument… the more you do it almost unconsciously, the better. That’s your goal. And that won’t happen without practice.

I suggest you read books and listen to lectures by Neville Goddard. If you follow his teachings and techniques you will master visualization.

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You need to control your emotions.

You need to expect the outcome to occur, if you read the book clearly it states your dwelling on the magick, expecting to fail, is not part of the ritual and will demish it, you are to thank that it is already done and it is already in place, your disbelief is the reason you are failing anf then fail to perform.

Maybe you need to clear the space again as something is discouring you, or you need to first work on self improvement to have better belief and clear those blockages over religion. The results ar einstant, they have already happened back in time, you see the future.

Without this vital step i dont see how you can achieve anything… its like ordering on amazon then not opening the door to complete delivery. It’s not amazons fault…

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Money magick of any sort can be very tricky if you haven’t/aren’t fostering a healthy mindset about it. Did you examine and change your current beliefs and attitudes towards money? Do the inner work first. :wink:

I’ve posted a link to a very good book that will help you get a really solid start on the inner work around manifesting money/wealth.It might seem a bit woo-woo because it’s LoA, but give it a chance.

This is something that had bothered me - I’m a novice and rarely have results, but working with Demons of Magick was followed by actively bad happenings (months-long family trouble) twice. The third time the same trouble brewed (hadn’t done anything from the book) I binned it, things passed quickly and we haven’t had severe issues for over a year now.

Can’t tell if it was coincidence, but became disillusioned with magic for a while.

That’s exactly the problem.

When you do magick you WILL feel something and if you don’t then you’re probably doing something wrong.

The second problem here is that based on what you said you’re doing it exactly as instructed which is the biggest mistake newbies make.
You need to personalize your methods because it’s your magick not someone else’s.

Another tip would be start doing magick a few months before starting the business so it has time to get things in place.

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It’s an interesting about “common sense and logic”: none of them suggest rituals and summoning demons/angels :).