Creating an entity to protect children

[anon48532061]

Then would you take the risk?

[MorpheusDarkson]

Absolutely. Magicians manipulate our environment. I will do it if it brings good.

[anon47811056]

@anon10524665

But the intention of creating a servitor to protect children in general is not wrong just because one can turn out to be a villain.

Especially considering no one is inherently a villain since morality is subjective in the first place.

@anon10524665

But then again, where do you draw the line?

At people with low IQs and a high propensity for violence and erratic behavior. I think the only reason there’s a debate is because certain philosophical spectrums are in fact regressive.

[A_Pariah]

@anon48532061

But what if one of these children were going to be a massive villain that murders people ruthlessly?

Thats why my SO decided against donating his organs after death

[anon10524665]

@anon47811056

At people with low IQs and a high propensity for violence and erratic behavior.

So you want to live in a world where every child gets their DNA tested and then someone says “Sorry, IQ too low, genes too bad, go have an abortion.”? No I don’t think you want that.

So again, we will not know who has bad genes and who doesn’t. Hence it is very legitimate to have the desire to protect all children.

[anon47811056]

@anon10524665

Your answer is both has an influence on what kind of person a child will turn into.

Will reply tomorrow Helena, I have somewhere to be right now.

[anon47811056]

On second thought, before I go I will reply.

@anon10524665

So you want to live in a world where every child gets their DNA tested and then someone says “Sorry, IQ too low, genes too bad, go have an abortion.”? No I don’t think you want that.

Yes I do want that, don’t assume you know me or what I want or believe. Big mistake.

@anon10524665

So again, we will not know who has bad genes and who doesn’t. Hence it is very legitimate to have the desire to protect all children.

I also want to protect children, but want to eliminate low IQ people and abnormally violent individuals from the gene pool.

Have a pleasant evening.

[anon48532061]

@anon10524665

But the intention of creating a servitor to protect children in general is not wrong just because one can turn out to be a villain

The question is, is it worth investing your energy in others by omitting conflict (aka ground for learning)?

@anon47811056

Especially considering no one is inherently a villain since morality is subjective in the first place

It was an example made to suit a general concept. But it was maybe too moral.

[anon10524665]

I’m not gonna get involved into another useless and off-topic debate.
Just one final quote from the mighty Paarthurnax:

“What is better – To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature though great effort?”

[Mystic-Void]

I think I’ll just lurk in the shadows, seeing how this unfolds…

[A_Pariah]

@anon10524665

or to overcome your evil nature though great effort

But at what point would someone refer to his nature as “evil”? At the end of the day everyone thinks he is on the right track of moral and virtue. When in doubt everyone else is simply wrong.

[anon47811056]

@anon10524665

“What is better – To be born good, or to overcome your evil nature though great effort?”

Says the aspiring intellectual trying to imply evil actually exists It’s not absolute, sorry, try again.

[Zohak]

@anon48532061

But what if one of these children were going to be a massive villain that murders people ruthlessly?

Every child incarnates with a unique purpose or true will. Some will be human-rights activists and others will be bloodthirsty serial killers. Either way, I will protect the children.

[anon48532061]

@Zohak

Every child incarnates with a unique purpose or true will. Some will be human-rights activists and others will be bloodthirsty serial killers. Either way, I will protect the children

Well then could you enlighten me about how are you going to get the amount of energy needed to protect such amount of people as well as developing yourself as god on the same life?

Or would you procrastinate your aim of becoming a god to protect others?

[Zohak]

@anon48532061

Or would you procrastinate your aim of becoming a god to protect others?

In reality, any event outside of my sphere of contact is none of my business.
That answer was hypothetically based on my outlook towards the ethical issue of protecting children with magick.

[anon48532061]

@Zohak

That answer was hypothetical based on my outlook towards the ethical issue of protecting children with magick

Then you were not being honest.

[anon10524665]

@anon48532061

Or would you procrastinate your aim of becoming a god to protect others?

Just an interest, what makes you think using energy to protect others procrastinates your aim of becoming a god?

[A_Pariah]

@anon10524665

or to overcome your bad genes through great effort?

This is something incredibly hard to manage, because you would need an environment that would have an actual interest in your development beyond adolescence. If you grow up in a certain kind of “hopeless” situation (and I don’t mean the “I never have been hugged” thing but a social structure that lets you wither because of your heritage and your heritage alone) you are in NEED of people who take you out of that environment long term. Because as soon as you return to it you will grow back into the old structures. And I don’t speak about extreme cases here. I don’t talk about physical abuse or anything else that would sound like “I call the police on your asses”.

So maybe instead of “proctecting children” in general I would advise towards “Creating a stable and nurturing environment for everyone in every stage of life”. But I guess human nature won’t let us enjoy these things for a longer period of time. It has all been there, already.

[Zohak]

@anon48532061

you were not being honest.

This would be the case if there were no children in my sphere of contact

[anon48532061]

@anon10524665

Just an interest, what makes you think using energy to protect others procrastinates your aim of becoming a god?

I consider that a way of becoming god is through an alchemical process and high magic.
Protecting people is low magic. It is not bad by itself, but doesn’t help with the pathway pf becoming a god.

If one has been doing high magic properly, they don’t need to use low magic as the results and reality changes and adapts to the results of the aforementioned high magic.