Could someone who has a good relationship with Asmodeus advise? [Troubleshooting weak contact]

Could someone who has a very good relationship with Asmodeus message me? My journey into the Ars Goetia path actually began the first time I heard the name “Asmodeus.” In a way, I could say that I owe this journey to Asmodeus. Despite that, I tried working with different demons, while always avoiding Asmodeus—even though I felt drawn to him. I don’t know why. But lately, I’ve been feeling a deep interest in King Asmodeus and a strong desire to reach out to him. I want to have a strong relationship with him. If there is anyone who has a very good relationship with Asmodeus and can easily contact or invoke him, please message me. I genuinely and passionately want this. Thanks.

Your posting history shows you have no issue evoking and talking to entities - why don’t you call him yourself?

Thank you for your comment. Yes I have successfully connected with some other demons before. However, I can’t seem to feel Asmodeus’s presence. I’ve tried several times, but maybe I should try a little more, I’m not sure. I don’t know why. Is Asmodeus’s energy usually very intense and strongly felt or is it more calm?

My experience; very intense. Like a crushing weight on your shoulders but everyone is different and feels energy differently. He’s very very earthy in terms of energy.

Also should be stated that upon summoning him the operator is stated to ask him “thou art Asmoday?”

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I see. We can continue ti help you trouble shoot it here, and you can make a request for volunteers for free work here: Request Thread for Those Who Want to Practice Working for Others

Have you tried using divination to see if you are blocked for some reason?

It’s not any more strongly felt than any other entity for me. I would call him judgemental more than calm. If he doesn’t like the request, or it’s outside his offices, he, and a lot of the others, I find, tend to just ignore you. It’s important to ask for things that are a least somewhat good for you, if not for your highest good. It might just not be time yet and you have other work to do that’s more important.

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Ah, please excuse my lack of knowledge, but what does the term “divination method” mean? I’ve heard the term before, but I don’t actually know what it is. Is it something like tarot? How can I tell if I’ve been blocked? In previous years, I used to go to church and pray. Could Asmodeus dislike me because of that? I apologized to Asmodeus for my past mistakes and said that if I had ever disrespected him in the past, I was sorry. I told him that I wanted to leave all of that in the past and that I wanted to have a strong connection with him. For example, I really love King Paimon’s energy. He has been very helpful and never left me alone, even when I was a complete beginner. But I feel like Asmodeus has a somewhat harsher personality. I don’t know if that’s actually true. Still, my soul feels drawn to Asmodeus. Could he be angry with me?And also, thank you so much for your help. I’m going to check the link now.

Method means “way of doing”.

A way to get - aka “divine” - occult information. We have an entire category for discussing divination: Divination, Dreamwork & Prophecy See the Divination tutorials here: Unofficial Tutorials: Divination, Pendulum, Tarot, Runes etc which is also linked in the Getting Started Guide GETTING STARTED GUIDE, Rules, Notables, Tutorials and References

Tarot is just one of many ways of doing divination.

Your words reek of weakness.

There was no need for any apology and he doesn’t respect this kind of self-flagellation, so I do not advise this, it makes you look like a sheep not a mage. You want to take accountability and explain what you now understand and why you are behaving different going forward. But whatever you do, never simper and grovel. Be noble, proud and calm.

You are doing something few humans dare to do and you should give your credit for that.

Yes, and he respects those who stand up to him. It’s nothing to you to work with any of the hundreds of other entities - if he’s going to act like a pissy little bitch, fuck him. He doesn’t matter.

But what I think he’s trying to do, is to get you to get stronger, show your worth, and believe in yourself, without external validation. Or don’t waste your time with Asmoday.

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Words from Asmoday I got a long time ago from when I was a little mage new to everything in demonology, “Why not bind us all?” A challenge for me to accept which i didnt at the time.

Also other words I got from him about eight years ago that I learned from, “I place lust in the hearts of those who I know will not work”, didn’t understand at the time but two years later, the message was received. That being said, regardless of why my ex did what she did to me(infidelity is a bitch) I believe it had to happen in order for to grow and understand what works for me and what doesn’t work for me in a relationship.

Biggest thing I learned was, if someone oversteps your boundaries, cut them off immediately. Once, sure thats fine but after that, you can see the truth in their character.

If they don’t respect your boundaries, they don’t respect you.

The other thing I learned was that in the office of lust, lust isnt just mindless sex or a need for sex. Lust is anything you desire.

Like a desire for results, a desire for a relationship, a desire for control etc. And desire is fine but you shouldn’t have desire control or dictate your every action. Just because you want something doesn’t mean that its meant for you or meant for the taking.

He’s harsh but I feel as if its a harshness directed as “Is that really what you want? Or is what you think you desire?”

I often see him in my minds eye as Robert Baratheon from Game of Thrones. Big, Powerful and full of energy.

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Are you wearing a head covering when you summoned Asmodeus? Even if it’s the hood from your robe?

I have read in some places throughout the Internet that He may not come to you if your head is covered.

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Not only shouldn’t this be a problem, but I’ve also seen accounts of people who go to church and pray on a regular basis and still work with demons.

The problem might be your attitude, which is too devotional and submissive. If your first thought after a failure is that you’re not worthy and you apologize in advance, it will certainly limit what you might do. Even other people might disrespect someone who does it and give them scraps, or nothing at all.

No matter how uncertain you feel, for the length of the ritual at least, you must be certain to at least be heard. You’re not a petitioner trying to get a bored clerk to slap an approval on your form. You are a sovereign will approaching an otherworldly being and demanding to be heard. Do anything you can to believe it.

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Thank you for your answer. But no, I don’t cover my head. I recite his enn, light a candle, and look at the sigil in the video I play on YouTube. I wonder if there is something I’m doing incorrectly or something I’m missing. I really want to reach Asmodeus. Maybe I need to develop my psychic senses further, but even so, I think that if Asmodeus wanted me to sense his presence, he would let me feel it. Do you have a relationship or connection with Asmodeus?

Thank you very much for your answer. I was wondering whether the problem might have something to do with my excessive Catholic devotion in the past. But as you said, that shouldn’t be the issue. Because I genuinely love demons, and I approached Asmodeus with a great deal of respect. And you are right; I shouldn’t approach him as someone who is powerless or dependent on him. Someone else had told me something similar before: “See and feel yourself as a God.” Maybe that is where the power comes from.

And I know this is somewhat unrelated to the topic, but I wanted to ask you one more thing. If the target person occasionally, although very rarely, receives Catholic Communion, would that provide them with any protection? And would it have any effect on the magic? If you have detailed knowledge about this, I would really appreciate it if you could share it with me. And if you would like, you can also message me. I would be very happy to hear from you.

I can’t give you much advice, because I haven’t even gotten to the point where I can feel anyone’s presence. But…

In the LHP Qabalah, Asmodeus is the ruler of Golachab, the more extreme and unbalanced side of Geburah — which itself is the strictest and most “angry” of the Sephiroths. So he’s probably one of the worst powers to approach with meekness and profuse apologies; your attitude is pretty much a negative correspondence.

And no, it’s not true that if Asmodeus wanted you to sense his presence, he’d make it so. Being able to do this is something you train for, not a gift you get just because you deserve it. If you can’t do it yet, try to find other means: synchronicities, dreams, etc. It’s also worth asking for something concrete, so that if you get it, you know you were heard.

Whether the Catholic communion serves as protection, I think it might, but it doesn’t happen automatically or naturally. The other person’s will provides protection, and rituals direct it toward a particular goal—but communion doesn’t have the symbolism to make one think of being protected. It’s supposed to be a symbolic act of unity with God, which is a completely different thing.

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Not by itself, but the faith in being protected would.

None of these theatrical props are magick until the person using them thinks they are. If he’s not just going through the motions, and is using this as a magickal tool to make s shield, then you are effectively trying to overcome the free will of another mage.

At that point it’s a battle of wills - your will to affect the other has to be stronger than their will not to be affected.

They have the high ground as they are on the defense. It’s easier for them to resist. .

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You should be meek and ask with any magick anyway.

When you do this, you are acknowkedging and focusing on fat you lack. By the law of attraction, what you focus on is what you manifest.

You need to calmly and surely, and with gratitude for an accomplished work, visuals the successful outcome in as much detail as you can. See it come true from all angles, with all your senses.

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Thank you very much. He does receive Communion, but he does it only as a formality. He doesn’t believe that the Eucharist is actually real. So, would it still provide protection in that case?

And if Communion does provide protection, wouldn’t that mean that Catholicism is the true religion and that its God is real? Could this kind of protection also apply to a Hindu, a Buddhist, a Muslim, or a pagan witch? I’m trying to understand how this works.

Thank you for the information. So, are you saying that one should approach Asmodeus respectfully, but with a strong will, like a ruler?

And I have a second question. The target person does not believe in Catholicism; they only practice it for support. They receive the Eucharist purely as a formality, simply because everyone else gets in line to receive it. Would it still provide protection in that case? I asked the same question to the lovely moderator as well :slight_smile: . But this is genuinely important to me. I’m trying to understand whether there is any protection and, if so, why they would be protected.

Because the target person deserves the spell as a consequence of what they have done, but that is a separate matter. If there is protection, how can I remove it?

If you mean the target just practises catholicism with passive worship, then I’d say that their spiritual protection is nonexistent.

Since that target has no real belief and just practises it for formalities, I don’t think there’ll be any shield.

Do NOT apologize or grovel, I don’t think any deity respects that kind of weakness. He will respect your strength and sovereignty above all.

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So, when we say “protection,” does that mean the person’s own will? Can we say that “if someone believes that something is protecting them, then they have protection”? Do you mean that it is entirely related to the subconscious mind?

Do I need to have a stronger will than theirs in order to break their protection? So, are you saying that it is entirely about believing? Does believing that we can overpower their will make our will stronger than theirs? Is that belief alone enough to remove the protection?

Probably doesn’t affect him then. The eucharist isn’t real, that would make catholics all cannibals and that’s weird and I think not what Jesus intended, though it could be an intended corruption to weaken Jesus’ mystical teachings - it’s ideal as a metaphor. If you read the scripture it was always a metaphor.

He may have other things he uses though, like hymns, the lords prayer, the armor of god, there’s many protection workings in the entire system.

There’s no such thing as a “true” religion, religions are man-made mind-control systems, invented by humans to organize other humans.

I see “god” as real, and the religions are are sll only lenses, each trying to describe the same reality as best they can, but being human and blind, only describing part of it… but It’s all the same underneath. If god is the universe, you are god, and as your hand is part of your body, inseperable, like a drop in an ocean of spirit, you are part of god and god is part of you.

This is why the kingdom is within and all around you. It’s not in any Heaven or hell, it’s not over there or in space, it’s right here, in between. “If you look for Heaven in the sky, the birds will get there before you”.

So god is also not a being. It’s not yhwh, it’s not jesus or any other sky daddy. That is idolatry, and why jesus never wanted to be worshipped. He really wanted people to become enlightened to being part of god.

I call it the tao, same thing.

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