So my ex has me blocked and I’m stuck when it comes to know which road to take. See I’ve done an obsession spell on a target before who had me blocked and they’ve come back exactly as I intended in only 3 days… baring in mind I enlisted dantalion to help.
Now…
This new target of mine (my ex) is dead set on not getting back with me and has blocked me on everything. And when I asked her if she still feels anything she said she does but she’ll get over it. In other words she’s forcing herself to not care (using her mind) not her heart. GOOD, Seems like a job for dantalion I’d assume. BUT, here’s the kicker.
I’ve done obsession spells on her and nothing seems to work. You could say I’m lusting for results but honestly I’m a little stuck in regards to if I’m going about it correctly.
What would make more sense?
I’m blocked.
So would it make more sense to do a contact me spell first and then a love or obsession… or should I go straight to an obsession.
The reason I ask if because I’ve read that spirits like to fill in blanks and take your intentions (petition) literal.
If I write “think of me” or “obsess over me”
She may very well take the brunt of the spell and feel what I intend her to feel but the spirit may think eh my jobs done because I didn’t tell them what to make the spells outcome be, in this case, reaching out to me.
Do you get me?
So would a more direct intent like a contact me spell, where there’s no way for the spirit to work around it work better (at this point) than a think of me spell, which may work but because I didn’t point it back to me she will just go about her days thinking of me and not doing nothing, which would be a waste of time.
Similar, but I mentioned something here I feel like needs a genuine answer. Which was do I do a contact me first and then love spell or do I do the love spell first.
Because a love spell doesn’t necessarily imply that she will contact me. That’s still her free will… a love spell will inflame her with love for me and override her will in that aspect. But her will to contact me still remains.
A contact me spell covers that part so which is best
You can ask the same question six different ways from Sunday…the answer is going to be the same. You claimed you already did an obsession spell, so why jump to do another one? You’re obsessed, you need to step back, stop interfering in your own work and bothering her about her feelings, give the spell time to work. At this point you’re just pushing her away and making more work for yourself.
I understand you love her, you want her back, etc but come on…why is it so hard to follow the directions the members here too time out to give you? Show a little more self control and restraint and let the dust settle first, or if you really insist on doing ritual after ritual, look up how to layer, pick the right spirits, then
wanting to make the other person obsessed
Talk to him.
If you don’t let the other person have their space to think about you, how do you think it will work?
I say it clear and scratchy if you try to do the same spell (It gives me a tremendous cringe to say spell) on a person whose effect not only did not work but the person passed it through the buttocks, what makes you think that it will not fail? ? Do a good job that is not something you know or consult with what I know, Opele, Diloggun, Chamalongo, tobacco, tarot or with the bones of a person to see if what you want to do is going to work or is the right thing this time , you are shooting arrows at a mountain seeing if one can hit her or him.
Do and do and do things you can get tired of doing it, you have to find the right one, you don’t have to throw at her or him, 32991239139132919239321 things you see on the internet to see if one works, you’re going to end up getting tired, or worse, imagine that in one of those an Eggun of hers jumps on your neck, there you are going to dance joropo with the devil.
So, as she already loves you, and now follows her mind, do some work to make her more emotional and following from the heart instead. Make her mind weaker and her heart more vulnerable, then put some influence on her too, have her remember all the good and forget the bad so she will want to come back to you. I just think a little patience is needed, so she has time to miss you.
what I find funny though is that usually the people who do obsession spells on others are the ones turning out to be obsessed. To do working spellwork it needs a fair amount of detachment after doing the work so try to let it go totally. Do not think about them, nor talk about them, nor do more spell work.
The person will return only when they feel that you have stopped pushing their energy buttons. The dynamic needs to be such, that they will be attracted to pursue you and that will only happen if you stop pursuing them consciously. Even if people aren’t magically inclined, they can still feel the energy subconsciously and act accordingly and keep walking away from you, it feels suffocating. The difference between a great magician and a regular magician is this level of detachment combined with the laser sharp focus needed for targeting, but that is only a momentum and this skill makes it possible to do successful work in only one tiny session. A little doubt kills all the work and lots of work usually only disturbs the past work done. so do one thing and do it well, and let it rest totally for some weeks and do not suffocate with overload of work, be light but a force that is precise
You’ve asked this question plenty of times and obtained the same answers over and over again. Rather than stick around and actually LISTEN to what people are saying you create a new topic on this same issue every couple of days. Even topics that you don’t create you try and devolve into this issue.
You have been given plenty of advice by many of us on this forum but rather then engage with anything you have been given you simply ignore it and create a new topic every few days. I forget who said it but doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity.
I’ve always said you are the one who is obsessed and at this stage I’m beginning suspect you may also be a troll because it would be one thing if you stayed and engaged, it’s quite another for you to ignore everything that’s been given to you.
The majority of the stuff that you have been told has been quite positive ie. That you have succeeded but you need to step away for a few weeks/months and give your magic time to work.
You are not going to find a magical panacea that works instantly.
I would suggest that you speak to one of the mods such as @DarkestKnight and ask him to suspend your account for a few weeks so you can step away from magic and give it time to work
@Sororbatsheva156 Yes, great reply and advice you gave him! What is happening is clearly a chaser/runner dynamic in my opinion.
If you permit me, I would like to ask the following clarification question as this is a topic I’m trying to learn. I do agree that doubting your spellwork (or lusting for results which in essence is also a form of doubt/fear, not the ‘calm confidence’ which would be ideal. If you want to change your reality, you need to change yourself first.) and doing lots of work only messes things up, but let’s say a magician did his spellwork for a certain target but after that he started doubting it all and got in a bad mindset, so I think it’s natural that he’ll want to redo the spellwork since he probably “killed” the energies of his first spell already with his doubting and lusting for results. In this case, a repeat of the spell would be bad (in the same sense that you wrote “lots of work usually only disturbs the past work done”)? If yes, then will he be stuck without results since he already did his doubting/lusting thing? And how much time between casting the spells would be needed to wait for their energies to not conflict/clash with each other (thinking about the same target here)? Thank you!
thank you so much Relating to your question, its a tough one. Because this really depends on the person’s mentality. I mean if you doubted it once, why would you not doubt it the second time and if you do the work again, because of this doubt, you bring the same doubt into the next ritual…? So this needs to be thought about. Magic is so mental and that is why it is hard to practice well. From my experience what I see when I do work for others and just have seen and heard from other magicians, is more work on the same topic, unless it is a work that has been carefully and strategically planned and layered, is always going to give off confusing energies especially when combined with needy energies and no letting go. If you want to do the same work again, I would personally wait one moonphase (1 month approx) but before doing any work, cleanse yourself well. A rosemary bath would be good for example, and while you wait to do the spellwork another time, also add in more work on yourself and daily meditation to prepare. Make some efforts to have yourself feel positive about your skills, burning some psychoactive incenses during meditation and ritual work can aid with this also, for example Agarwood or Wormwood and Mugwort. Also practice with topics that you feel less attached to can help to train your non attachment attitude. Like doing magic for stuff you care about but it doesn’t matter that much to you if it doesn’t work, like magick for simple things or for people around you. Pay raise for your parents, better work environment among colleagues? There are many options that can use improvement without it feeling heavy on someone. I notice that people often only start practicing when they are in dire need of the change, adding to the neediness. So find ways to practice on things you can easily let go, and then see how it manifests and train yourself this way.
Yes @Sororbatsheva156, I think you nailed it in the head again. It’s very likely that the doubting (or even lusting for results) will still be there the second time around. One must be mindful of that and probably take the necessary time (thinking about months) to deal with it beforehand.
Thank you for your advice on the cleansing aspects. I have very little experience with those practices, I’ll dive deeper into that, thank you.
I’ve had some success with magick, not much, but it was always about things that I could easily let go of, like really not giving a F* if it worked or not. So indeed, I can clearly see right now that this is the point in my practice that I need to work through (the problem would be present even if hire someone else to do the rituals for me, I think the dynamics are the same since the reality to be changed is mine and not the sorcerer’s). I will try to work some kind of “ladder” in this regard, do more workings on things that I can easily let go and go from there.
This is getting out of hand now lol. I did a spell a few days ago and I’m seeing so many synchronicities it’s hard to count. 3:33 - 3:30 - 23:23 - 00:00 - 23:32 - 4:44 - 4:40
Does this pertain to anything in particular because there’s no set time in seeing they vary all the time. Ive been seeing two or three a day
I also had a dream where by the target was messaging me sorry, forgive me, all these kind of texts and then I woke up.
Most of these are pattern matching. The thing to pay attention to is the intuition for a message. It’s not a sign unless you get that ‘bump’ that it’s meaningful.
As for dreaming about the ex you’re obsessed with? I really think did that to yourself. That kind if dream is called the “problem solving” or “wish fulfillment” dream, and they’re very common.
You’re still lusting for results in a major way.
Speaking of which, I’m just moving your “zomg my ex!” posts into one of your other ex threads now… to keep things in one place, so you and others ca see all the things you tried so far, so they don’t suggest things you already did.
The lusting for results part don’t add up. Because I fell asleep affirming (in SATS) so what I saw to me was confirmation from my subconscious that it’s beginning to digest the new belief. I say this because I didn’t wake up in lack, more so joyful knowing it’s a sign so that in itself is far from lusting. Also I don’t like the way you said “the ex I’m obsessed with”.
I’m no longer lusting cause I know for a fact she’s returning so by telling me I’m still obsessed that’s not the reality I chose for myself anymore it’s your view, and that’s okay. But honestly I just find it weird how I’m seeing many synchronicities lately almost quadruple what I normally see.
These are 7 examples. Are we to believe you’ve only checked the time 7 times? 10 times? 15 times? 25 times? 100 times? Even more? Cherry picking isn’t just for bible quotes.
It’s relative. So while you’ve “pattern matched” to borrow a phrase from @Mulberry, how many times of the greater number is relevant.
An objective observer is going to interpret your behaviour differently than you yourself might.
Just by saying to people “I’m not lusting for results“ doesn’t make it true. In fact the very fact you need to state this in your post says way more about your state of mind. In my view if you have to say “I’m not lusting for results” then it goes to show you usually are.
I get that it can be difficult to stop the self perpetuating cycle. Also what is difficult is reading all the success stories on here regarding others that have gotten their ex back
Very many newbies to this forum will summon half the astral realm in an attempt to get their ex back and this is clearly what you have been doing.
As I’ve said numerous times before you are either trolling or you are so obsessed with your ex that nothing you throw at him/her will work. As I’ve said numerous times before step away from the love magic and try some other type of magic. If you find it difficult ask the mods for a temporary ban of two weeks.
There are only so many things members can say to try and help you but you need to take the first step. You need to step away at least for now. Stepping away does not equate to giving up.
if you continue on your obsessive Path not only is it a possibility that you may ruin relationships you have already built with entities but you may succeed in pissing them off. For example you tried summoning Sitri in one of your other posts. Have you ever thought that Sitri, Dantalion etc might just be thinking I’m not going to give this guy his ex back just to teach him a lesson.
Also this obsession can lead to all sorts of parasites. If I was a parasite I would be feeding on all your obsessive energy.
Finally I will leave you a question: how do you think creating a new post on this forum every week on the same/extremely similar topics will help your magic?
I am now going to await patiently for you to ignore my advice and create a new topic on exactly the same issues.
