I don’t get why I am receiving such backlash. I cast a baneful working on people who stole my ideas at work but I still seem targeted by some magick. I was ripped off so why is there no karma for the wrongdoers? If i was the one being used, why am I experiencing backlash? I am innocent and they stole from me. Are there people offering tarot readings on here? I want to see what’s going on with my magick.
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Because magick works according to momentum.
Whoever cast against you has the momentum. First you have to break the momentum of bad energy sent against you. You do that by clearing and cleansing yourself. Take a spiritual bath if you can, that alone can really help you.
Then do workings for justice instead of revenge. You’ll always be behind the ball when playing tit-for-tat in occultism, because people with the Evil Eye have the advantage in anathema. for this reason, revenge spells tend to be better for the perp than the victim, meaning the energy you put out tends to land back on you rather than them.
Justice spells done by a person in the right are better for instant karma.
I personally call on Andromalius and Andras for this type of work. Andromalius and Andras are a serious tag team to send after wrongdoers. For group gaslighting tactics, Agares, Eligos, and Raum can also do great work to bust up cabals and turn groups against each other.
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Karma is not a force for justice. It’s (complex) action = reaction. Think of it this way. Sometimes it’s totally justified to smack someone across the face. However justified it might be, there’s always a chance you try to smack some offensive idiot with catlike reflexes and decades of martial arts training.
However justified you are in that situation, you are still in trouble regardless.
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Magical backlash has nothing to do with whether you were justified in your actions or not. It’s mainly related to the dispersal of energy. Generally speaking, there are several reasons as to why a spell might backfire. One is that the energy was improperly raised and released, or two, the target has protection that redirected your baneful energy back at you. And a third possibility is interference from some higher power.
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It’s also noticeable that the sort of people who do this: steal from and use you, if they have strongly dark-triad traits are more difficult to affect with magick for some reason. We’re not sure why but in a sense the narcissism itself is like a magickal defense.
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I see. I have my contacts, but I will consider. I’m apprehensive about the first name though, because i believe someone sent him my way
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I see.
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Agreed. My arch enemy is a narcissistic psychopath and I’ve had no significant successes
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@Ragepanda @Itz_Katyb
Have you guys considered this spell?
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Also Thantifaxath Can Eat Spells So Why Can’t He Eat The Curses That Were Placed On You?
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If they have protections of any kind, It might be a good idea to start off by breaking those defenses. As a rule of thumb for baneful work since you never know who the person you are working against has protecting them, for safety destroy their defenses first before sending anything to get them directly - Focalor comes to mind
What exactly you mean by karma? That concept has been so mis-understood by many, I’m curious to know what your expectations and hopes are for them relative to Karma
I very much can relate to that, few years ago, I was dealing with with some group of individuals who had treated me similar to what you described, they took my IP for a technology I was developing at the time. Once the issue had came to light, I had decided to walk away but still did some magick wok as I was felt I was intuitively being guided to do
My magick was not baneful, but to withdraw and drain from their memories all that they had taken from me. Literally pull those ideas out like draining a fire hose. Sure enough, after my absence, everything else that were taken from me was gone, the ideas, the teams, even the investors… all vanished and the people (one person in particular) the culprit was left to rot, ashamed and ruined, financially, marriage failed, and that was not even the extent of my work. I suppose one thing led to another
I shared that as another approach you can consider to take. If you notice baneful work does not have any effect on the assailants, try taking your ideas back from their minds by having them forget everything and return all that was taken from you. Of course, don’t expect these individuals who stole from you to return them to you for that is not how it usually happens. What usually happens is that new opportunities will present themselves to you to replace what was stolen from you, so on and so forth and if you want your ideas to return to you, that’s fair enough and is definitely possible as In my case, I’ve had better and refined concepts for that IP, still the same thing but done completely different than what was wrongfully taken from me
If directly you cannot get to those who had done you wrong, try taking the indirect way
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Karma isnt a judgement system based on morality. You could by all means kill someone and still get away with it.
I personally dont believe in karma though. I believe in common sense - if you do a curse on someone and no one knows there is no bad that can come to you by doing it unless there are some other factors like the other person has protections, or you attracted a malicious spirit because you didnt protect, etc etc.
Karma is an eastern thing, and im not eastern.
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havent been diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder but i definitely have 99% of the traits, and i dont have much empathy which is characteristic of dark-triad stuff and i have NEVER been affected by anything anyone sent me or tried to send me and im sure alot of people would of atleast tried considering my past lol. I need to know why this is a thing ngl.
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My personal theory, lately anyway, is it’s a combination of either refusing to buy into anyone elses paradigm, (I.e. not giving a fuck what they think), or for some personalities, especially in the cluster B spectrums where a lot of that is highly self-protective, that same self-protection does great at protecting against psychic attack.
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So basically someone elses mental strength is able to defend them against psychic attacks (in regards to not giving a fuck).
Personally i dont think i have that ego-shield. Im more along the lines of sociopathic rather than narcissistic. Highly cunning, can be manipulative if i really want to be and under-adequate empathy.
BUT then again maybe that just my shadow aspects being integrated, idefk at this point.
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Some people just have certain things they want to do, and they do not like others trying to Run them. Then there is this (I don’t know if anyone else does this), I have a certain Doctrine/Personal Constitution/Code of Ethics of my own that I follow. Even in times of uncertainty I just simply refer back to that and it serves as its own guidence.
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In this case I’m assuming the target, who happens have strongly a narcissist traits, doesn’t consciously know that someone has cursed them (or done whatever magick on them) - no matter what the magick, there’s a noticeable trend that people who are obviously narcissistic are difficult to curse - based on the numerous posts we have on here about it. Anyone can hexbreak a curse if you know it exists.
There was also a good point here:
A typical example is this experienced member who made multiple attempts, not just for revenge but to stop his attacks on her: Curse for narcissistic guy at work
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I see. I’ve noticed this seems to be a very popular Buzzword amongst witch craft groups of women who are obsessed with stalking her target and love to observe her curse in action on someone who she thinks is Narcissistic, but just displays behaviors as being Highly Successful, Confident and Strategic.
But just assuming you do not know everything about him, and only just shallow surface indicators… lets assume that he is really a highly intelligent and Aware Mage that deflects everything you do, and may take physical world actions to punish (maybe not direct physical violence) you for attempting to curse him, or he just focus’s more on himself knowing full well that is punishment enough.
At this point, the whole game of stalking him and trying to figure out if your curse has worked, one must SERIOUSLY re-examine if one isn’t simply “projecting,” as narcassism is very common amongst Black Magick practitioners.
A perfect example is “Dark Priorities” on this forum swears up and down that one must be part of the “Positive vs Negative Polarity.” Me being someone who actually practices BOTH forms of magick strongly at the same time disagree, because being Negative Polarity normally means you are Strongly Dark Triad without the elements of its opposite. My point, is that her target probably possesses the protection of Both Poles, whether actively using it or has a Higher Power that does it for them. Some entities possess both polls. In either scenario, that would mean he is just very Confident and she miscalculated him.
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Yes the word narc gets overused sometimes, and you’d have to analyse the specifics of a cse to make an asessmenet based on your own understanding.
Questioning whether the target IS narc enough to be considered diagnosable as having NPD is a different issue however. EVERYBODY, unless they are a completely non-functional doormat has narcissistic traits, this is normal and healthy.
Thus, in these circumstances I read this as not an attempt at diagnosis, which we’re not qualified to do obviously, but a statement of the effect of the target on the practitioner and a reason leading to the working. meaning when they say “a narcisisst” they mean "a person exhibiting narcissistic traits where I am concerned.
If you would do the person who’s post I linked above the courtesy of the benefit if the doubt and read her post, it’s very clear from her description of the behaviors that she is not mislabeling someone doing well, she is being attacked politically within the org.
It isn’t always like that, but I tend to see BALG members in particular tending to be more thoughtful than these random “witch craft groups of women” you which you allude. You are relatively new here and you might benefit from browsing our 12 years of posts more before assuming we are all like the others, maybe, maybe not, but try a check first.
This is a different use case and not what I was referring to.
Again, based on the posts on this forum. members tend to be aware and make it clear if the target is a magic user or not.
Being able to discern if a person uses magick works both ways. 
Once the connection is made it’s a two way street.
Who said anything about stalking? When you are under personal attack from a cluster B type at work you know if it’s worked or not. They either stop sending the flying monkeys, slandering you behind your back and claiming credit for your work, or they don’t.
No projection required. These are physicals, verifiable actions with direct results in real time.
I agree and take it one step further - I don’t agree “poles” even exist and a “dark triad” person isn’t “polarized”. I don’t use dualism as a concept. I get why it exists but I think it’s oversimplified, and has little to do with psychology.
I will also reiterate, it’s human judgment, and dependent of a specific person’s perspective. Change perspective and the “poles” change - so how useful are they really?
To call someone/something “dark” is an opinion, and that’s the best you can say for it.