Ancient, hidden medieval magic books

Hello, it’s a long story, but I have the ability to look into long lost ancient (hidden) magic books from the middle ages… They contain a wealth of information about magic. See the picture for examples… I want to share these with you…

I’m confused, aren’t these all on Amazon? The ones in that picture anyway? What do you mean look into them?

For the Ars Notoria by the way Dr Stephen Skinner did a great breakdown of that from both the scholarly angle and the magical how to use it angle. The youtuber ESOTERICA discusses older books in detail as well. He has a whole series on Agrippa that’s very interesting. You might like to check him out as well if studying the old grimoires is your thing…

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No, these are not the versions on Amazon. These books have been hidden extensively and nobody knows about them.

Yeah, somehow I don’t believe you have special access to anything. You’re someone who just makes up “theories” and then proclaims them to be Truth ™ according to the intro you posted last September.

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For example this:

:new_moon: Hidden Page Fragment – “The Seal of Armathiel”

From a grimoire believed destroyed in 1461, this page contains a summoning seal that was banned by multiple covens and suppressed by the early Church.

No modern books carry this symbol.
The name Armathiel does not appear in Agrippa, the Ars Goetia, or the Solomonic corpus.

It was considered too powerful to use — not because it failed, but because it never failed.
The seal calls something that never departs.

Or this:

These are obviously made up internet nonsense. There are many such fabricated texts on the internet, like the so-called 1586 Necronomicon supposedly written by John Dee. They’re certainly not “ancient and hidden” but created via Photoshop :joy: It’s very easy to create an image and fabricate some mysterious background for it. It’s a pretty common trope in the occult.

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The Necronomicon that you buy from Amazon is fake. It is a prop.

Here is the cover of the real one:

Here is a page:

🜏 Warnings:

This page is part of the true Necronomicon.
It was not meant for witches.
It was meant for testers of the veil — those who wish to go beyond mind, soul, and language.

Few survived more than one use.
Those who did were never the same.

This page does not summon a demon.
It summons you — the part of you that is not bound by flesh, name, or morality.
If you are not ready, it eats the echo instead.

Been there, seen that. It’s nothing new. There have been at least six different “Necronomicons” making the rounds since HP Lovecraft first made the name up for his fiction in the 1920’s. Every single one claims to be the “one true” Necronomicon.

Try again.

What is your purpose here, besides trying to pass off Photoshopped images of fake “ancient hidden texts” as legitimate grimoires?

Picatrix is an insanely good book of planetary magic. The only problem with this book is that half of the things you need for rituals are no longer available because the book was written sometime in the Middle Ages.

Not quite, there are several, and they all work for magickal purposes - they’re not “fake” exactly. There is not “real one” however - it was a name invented by Lovecraft to mention in his other books and never created. All modern versions are inspired by his work.

And as noted on this forum before:

^ Worth remembering. The Simon Necronomicon isn’t even Lovecraftian it’s more Sumerian.

What grimoire? Armathiel is a fictional character from Lord of the Rings and later used in World of Warcraft. Where do you claim this one comes from again?

These pages are very obviously clean web graphics, not photos of actual old books.

I don’t have it, but I’ve watched reviews which overall are positive. There’s a strong chance many of the ingredients are either substitute-able, or “blinds” - symbols representing something else that only make sense when you get the “initiation” that tells you the codes. They did this lot to make a book look silly or more Christian to avoid censure.

Reading through to the intention and kind of reverse engineering it can help if it’s not too obscure. :thinking:

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I agree with you 100%. This book is quite heavily censored and everything is turned into Christianity, although I think the uncensored version that is not officially allowed to be out is much darker.

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To be fair there are 1000s of books not translated out of Latin or Greek and so on.

But any book calling itself ancient won’t be written in modern typefaces, not standardized until the 1920s, or all evenly printed, they’d probably still be handwritten.

This is very obviously fake with plot holes you could drive a tank through. From the nice and even vintage effect background - which is aping what happens to old photos not so much books - to the modern cthulu cartoon, to the clean and perfect type.

Nice t-shirt tho :joy:

But lets see what it saya: Lovecraft was American and spoke English there’s no reason it would have been in Italian or latin. The states fiction author was an Arab, so the fictional aoriginal would ave been in a semitic language.

Ego in voco terribilis ultra hoc altati sacrificio, Maleficam potentiam potentiam efscrete etiam efscoeret atiam facessat ab hoc et Praeclaro incendio consecro ex/ectorum, exhilatorum missa exaudi, apparate visibilius, ostende omnipotens

translates to

I call out in a terrible voice beyond this high sacrifice, Evil power, power, efscrete, even efscoeret atiam facessat from this and with a splendid fire I consecrate the ex/ectors, the exhilarators’ mass, hear, prepare more visibly, show the omnipotent

… nonsense.

I also note: cthulu and the comic horror bunch are not evil, by design. They don’t CARE about humans, and that’s what’s supposed to be the worst about them. For some reason Lovecraft found that horrifying. I don’t, I don’t care about the germs I wash off my hands, I’m not evil I don’t do it to torture germs - why would I get all hypocritical and expect an Old One to care about me? :woman_shrugging:

Whoever wrote this has not read a word of Lovecraft in the first place and is just fan fictioning off the disney-cartoon versions of the lore.

Wanna get really exciting about a new Necronomicon? - read the King in Yellow, talk to Nylarlathotep who is SUPPOSED to be the medium between the Old Ones and us and can give us alchemical teachings.

But you’d have a long way to go to beat the Black Book of Azathoth by S Ben Quayin, in my opinion.

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If I’m not mistaken, Asenath Mason wrote a book on the subject of necromicon and in it she mentions Cthulhu. It is said that this type of magic is performed in sleep as dreaming, which is very interesting.This grimoire is based on the astral realm.Of course, if you don’t master the astral, you can just forget about the grimoires of necromicon because it is not performed like the usual rituals at the altar.

There’s a general feeling that H. P. Lovecraft’s nightmares were the influence of actual beings - in which case, my current thinking is that his extreme fear warped the images so that his interpretation came out dark and horrifying.

Because what is Azathoth if not the Tao?
What is Shub Niiggurath is not Lilith, the representation of yin and creation?

I think there’s an interesting thread to pull there. I dislike playing the matchy-matchy game where people try to conflate entities from centuries and cultures apart, but I’m all about reading symbolism’s underlying messages rather than taking things a face value.

If we’re honest, we can both admit that what you believe in will work for you whether it’s fictional or not. That’s why necromicon works even though it’s probably fictional.

100%. I say this all the time. Humans are creator beings. We can call any thoughtform or egregore and us it as a hook to perform magick. We don’t give ourselves enough credit imo.

We had a thread or two about this very idea just last week. Someone said “Can I evoke Sauron?” and the answer is… probably, yes (I haven’t tried but I don’t see why not, if you can evoke the baphomet, which is equally fictional and supposed to have been a teaching graphic not a being to worship, of course you can.

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Well, while we’re on this topic, let’s talk about magic. Do demons exist? Are these 72 demons real? Most likely not, but why does magic work and curse spells? Because your mind is magic, not demons and grimoires.Magic is the power of your mind and nothing else.The all is mind, the universe is mental.In simple terms, to perform a manifestation of magic, you need absolutely nothing, no tools, except yourself and a strong mind.

This is a case of “pick your school of thought.” There’s no way to prove it either way, but whether you see yourself as the sole creator of a mental universe and everything as an aspect of you, or as one being in a shared multiverse of electromagnetic intertwined energies, you’re right, and the same spells work the same way.