Am I doing meditation wrong?

[wildweaselmw]

Chakra Merging Meditation Redux

So about a year ago, I made a post about a Chakra Merging Meditation (Old version, search for 'Redux'). It was effective, but poorly optimized and as a result was more complicated than it needed to be. I recently decided to rewrite it with better instructions and a clearer methodology. To begin, you must understand that chakras are simply orifices through which your energetic body vents and takes in energies, the ‘pool of colour’ or whatever they are commonly described as is a result of a lack…

Hello everyone. Today I started the above chakra meditation, I did one in the morning and now I did it again, but when I do this meditation I feel some discomfort or I feel sick. Is this normal since I just started or am I doing it wrong?

[KundaliniWitch]

there’s many different types of meditation. I’ve had the most success with energy downloads, reiki in other words. There’s this website “Love Inspiration” and they give this massive reiki system, where you simply download energy basically, and it works, I’ve seen a huge, huge improvement in my energy level, as everything is basically energy.

On that site they also give some meditation tips.

Meditation is basically just sitting there, with your spine straight, and observing the energy of your body. Meditation seems to work best in combination with reiki, which is what you’ll get from that Love Inspiration site. It’s all 100% free too, they dont charge money or anything.

[KundaliniWitch]

One of the systems they give is Kundalini Reiki, and you just sit down in a meditation posture, say the words Kundalini Reiki, and let the energy flow through you for 5 minutes.

The reiki systems given in that Love Inspiration website, are really quite nice.

[wildweaselmw]

Thanks for your advice, but that was not my question. I asked why I feel these things after meditation and if I am doing it wrong.

[Mulberry]

@wildweaselmw

when I do this meditation I feel some discomfort or I feel sick. Is this normal since I just started or am I doing it wrong?

It’s a bad meditation and no-one should do this “meditation” I feel, not unless you are already fully adept with reading and working with your own energy already so you can adapt it to something useful. I could be wrong, but no, that’s not normal and it doesn’t sound like this is a good meditation for you in any case.

Looking at it as an energy worker, this is not a meditation that I would do, partly because I don’t believe in using the chakras this way or without a guru, the yogic system is one designed to work with a student and teacher approach. Without the teacher you’re spot of in the dark by design. The OP is not that and posts further down show he doesn’t understand kunda energy, (not that I do either) and he’s not here anymore, so you really have no idea and no help to know what it’s doing to you. Only one person used it successfully and they made up what they wanted out of it to get it to work.

@Anziel_Merkaba

To begin, you must understand that chakras are simply orifices through which your energetic body vents and takes in energies

This is completely incorrect and a prime example of why westerners should not do “chakra” (which means “wheel” not orifice) when you can’t work with those who understand what chakras are and speak from experience. If you read the rest of the thread there’s someone in there who does and they are trying to point out the errors but he OP is fully in his ego and not listening

@Anziel_Merkaba

To properly begin this exercise, you will start with a basic chakra breathing meditation, where you visualize energy flowing into and out of your seven primary chakras as you breathe.

This already makes no sense to me… the question is why? It doesn’t “open” the wheels as stated, because they are already “open”, so what is this meant to do? If you, the student, cannot supply this for yourself this exercise is already unhelpful.

@Anziel_Merkaba

Once you have cleared and opened up your chakras

The given exercise does not do this. Kundalini exercises do this, from inside from the base of the spine up does this, on both qigong and kunda work.

@Anziel_Merkaba

you will fill your body with energy, pulling into each chakra, so the energies pool around each chakra until your body is completely charged. After that, start to push the energies into a circle, so they flow around your body like a hurricane spinning around a central point.

As the energies start to spin and flow, breathe in more energies through your chakras and feed it into the spinning vortex. You will find that you can hold a greater density of energies when they are moving around your body like this

This is probably the problem, you’re GOOD at this, you pulled in a shit ton of energy, and this causes way too much uncontrolled energy of random quality to flood your system. There’s no safety or control here. You could really damage yourself continuing in this chaotic manner.

The updated posted at the end by Calcined is actually not an “update” but a completely different exercise but much better as it’s pretty much basic qigong and applies the practioner’s intent properly.

Chakra Merging Meditation Redux

This is a updated version of the Chakra Merging Meditation Redux from @Anziel_Merkaba. I got permission to post this material. This is a pore breathing technique not a chakra meditation. However the OP recommended me to use this technique instead. To properly begin this exercise, you will start with a pore breathing, where you visualize energy flowing into and out all your pores as you breathe. This will make your energetic body more malleable for the main part of this exercise. [Pore] Once that is done you will fill your body with energy (by conscious intent and will) , until your body is completely charged. [Full of energy] After that, start to push the energies into a circle, so they flow around your body like a hurricane spinning around a central point. [Energy] As the energies start to spin and flow, breathe in more energies through your pores and feed it into the spinning vortex. You will find that you can hold a greater density of energies when they are moving around your body like this, so keep filling yourself up with energies until your entire body is as full as you can possibly get it. Once you are fully topped up, just let go of the vortex so it spins under it’s own force and stabilizes, as you exhale, feel excess energy flow out from your pores, and as you inhale, feel more energy flow in. As you breathe, you will vent energies and take in energies.

Intent is everything. Leave that out and you’ve got nothing helpful, you fill yourself with random energy that doesn’t know where it should go or what it should be and make a mess inside yourself.

So all that manifested as feeling sick and I’m not surprised but I think you were lucky and your body is warning you that this is messing your system up.

I think it’s really positive that you both got an effect, showing you are making energy move and are fully able to cultivate it, and that you were mindful of your system that it was able to tell you this is jot good for you.

I would say, this is great, keep going and try energy working meditations that are tried and tested over 1000s of years, from authors teaching older methods known to work, get full control and management of your energy and get down basic techniques like grounding, circulating energy and cultivating it, and maybe come back to play with this hot mess when you can watch what it’s doing clearly and manage it safely.

A great author for a western approach to kundalini raising is Robert Bruce, I prefer qigong so I look at people like Mantak Chia and Jwing Ming Yang.

[wildweaselmw]

I guess I realized that I shouldn’t trust every topic lol

Thank youuuuu for your detailed explanation. I am not very knowledgeable as I have just started working on the chakras, so I can make wrong choices.

I will look for other meditations. Is there a meditation you can recommend in this forum?

[Mulberry]

To cultivate energy, use Franz Bardon’s pore breathing which is the same as qigong “full body breathing”, I went into a bit of detail here:

How to get energy from the earth and universe?

Full body or pore breathing. You visualise the energy you want to cultivate, I like to send my mind out as far to the edges of the cosmos as I can imagine, and see the energy flowing in and filling your body with your breath. Then, as you breath in, instead of just breathing in through your mouth, see you entire skin all over breathing in the energy through your pores and energy points as well. As the in breath completes, your body is full of light, or Qi. Here’s the trick: on the…

Stay relaxed to allow it to flow, smile and maintain an easy, welcoming demeanour that simply notices the energy flowing into your body for your best intentions. Having breathed it in, on the out breath think of your lower Dan Tian and let it collect there.

From there you can think of the next point on in line, which is your root or “hui yin” and it will flow there. Next think of the next point in like, or in the case of chakras the next chakra and it will flow there. Watch it and notice it’s behaviour, does it spin or glow, does it stop and not get to the next point which would indicate a blockage of some kind?

We were just having a conversation here that has a good info dump on beginning qigong. If you combine energy cultivation from pore breathing with @DarkestKnight’s suggestion to try the * Pieces of Brocade moving meditation you’d be well set to build your qi and keep it balanced without having to get too deeply into the technicalities.

Beginners Guide to Qi Gong

I am interested in Qi Gong but don’t know where to start. Could anyone recommend some basic beginner Qi Gong exercises? I am mainly looking to increase my vitality. Thank you very much.

[wildweaselmw]

Thanks for the technique. I will start today. After I finish the technique today I will report back here for the start.