I was thinking the same earlier today @Zyskal. I miss-remembered the title as I was going about my day and thought the title of this thread had said ‘You cannot have wealth without magick’, and that we all do special things.
Thinking of Henry Ford, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett etc. Most people wouldn’t associate a magick practice being done by those. Yet I would bet that each of them stuck to their dreams to get success much like with Law of Attraction (even perfectly so) even if they had never even heard of such a thing.
Exactly! I can’t speak for Ford, Gates or Buffet but I know more than a handful of individuals with a combined net worth in the billions that DID employ magick as we know it and practice (ceremonial magick to be precise). Obviously those people aren’t going to go bragging about it in Forbes
Bragging about it in Forbes lol
Wow, so, we can say that magick is at the root of all success!
I can imagine that Ford may have kept a (special to him) nut and bolt in his pocket at all times and his designs pinned up on his bedroom wall, Gates may have imagined everyone on the planet interacting with the code he wrote and Buffet may have gazed/studied the dollar bill like a sigil, all of them not knowing it was a magickal act. They probably wouldn’t have wanted to mention this sort of thing in Forbes either.
Maybe succesful people who don’t employ magick as we know it happen to make the right assumptions naturally and those who do employ magick practices do so because we understand that change within has to be made by choice and will.
Maybe Ford, Gates and Buffet didn’t have to burn our kind of candle because naturally they just didn’t have to.
Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali, the natural athlete. He also knew himself to be The Greatest.
(Although he just had to put in lots of fancy footwork to help prove it lol)
Some times it’s the magick of feng shui and good astrology birthday. They make right choices due to great feng shui of home and atttract right opportunity. When your also in you good luck cycles you attract good and make right choices. Same can be said of reverse. Making wrong choice due to bad feng shui or unlucky cycles of timing on your birth chart. The energy of home around you sometimes makes your life. Sometimes a bless home gives you a bless life. environment makes a difference
Well we don’t get much choice of the day we are born so maybe there is good luck from the start for some. Feng shui? Maybe some of the succesful people will point their bed in the right direction etc. by chance rather than by knowledge? So again, they do some magick without knowing it.
@Zyskal, I wonder if this is an appropriate question. Of the wealthy people you know, what level of success might they have had, if they had never learned or purposfully used ceremonial magick?
My first guess is they may have still achieved good success by their own merit and hard work without the ceremonial magick, but how much of an increase did the real intentional magick make?
My second guess is that it’s an unanswerable question lol.
I mean, with them, (the individuals you know) was it that they had no money then found magick and followed it up with action or that they already had some success then applied magick to get super success?
A mixture of both in regards to your last remark. I can’t speak for all of them but those that mentored me always said it’s roughly 90% magick and 10% hard work, and I’ve found that to be very true myself. Billionaires have the same 24 hours available to them like average people, a 100 people would have the potential of having a 100x the amount of physical work in a day that a Billionaire could do, and yet the billionaire out earns them by crazy amounts. The wealthy aren’t so because they work harder, wealth doesn’t come from hard work, it comes from being vibrationally alligned to it. The one percent of the one percent know this secret.
feng shui is more than just bed placement. It’s the map energy of the whole home. Use the energy of good for attraction and avoid messing with energy of bad for bad luck. Wrong construction in wrong place of home and that yr can be horrible in health or money.
Some people move into home with good energy that last for 20 yrs. good timing can make it 40 yrs of good luck. And some move into home that is bad luck so they go downhill with their life since move into that particular home. But once they move out of their bad home. their life improve. Of course most rich folks now pay for feng shui consultation. All the big business do. Even your hated president trump does feng shui.
I met a couple who is retired folks at the casino. I see him often when i stay late at nite. He tells me win few hundred go home and repeat. save enough to make business. discipline. don’t be greedy. don’t throw money in one basket. Learn from others before you. He told me a bit about how he got rich. It’s mainly due to hard work and discipline to not waste money. He uses money to make money. He says he spent 10 yrs working hard to get money so that he have capital to invest. He owns a land farming with the money he earn when he was a kid. He buy food whole sale and sells them to stores at higher prices. These were in the 60’s. He basically would work all kinds of jobs to make money and save it. He would go into real estate too. He bought a 32 unit apartment building for 180000 bucks 50 yrs ago and now it makes him like 80grand a month. He says you have to treat money as a business. IT’s your capital. Learn to use money to make money. Now the opportunity isn’t the same as before . Business has changed. But he says the concept is the same. Look for things people need and want. Get it at good price and sell for higher. He gave his land to his brother in law to work at. he gets 60/40. He wasn’t going to hand his brother money. He makes all his family learn to work for the money. He help with advice for making money but no handout. He’ll help with food for family but not by way of handing them cash. He would ship food to his family in other country. He advise his brother to build a home in the old days . His brother didn’t have money. So he told his brother to get collateral. He did it by getting a home construction company to build the home and use it as a model home for a yr. AFter a yr, the home is his. So he says there are ways to use money by battering basically. Unfortunately the brother in law sold the home and gave half to the lady. Don’t get brainwash or horny over what’s between a lady’s legs. Avoid that he says. Ladies can make you broke due to emotion. Business have to be logical and the math have to work out. so the principle is figure out to make your capital. Use that on business that will give you residual income. Get others to work for you and both get win/win profit. Don’t be greedy where you burn bridges. Bad energy attract bad stuff into life. One of the thing he emphasize is DISCIPLINE in anything you do which many don’t have. Also be careful of others who betray or will try to cheat you. Namely females. =o) It’s one of the poison for the most males. ladies. lol Avoid drama and being emotional. discipline. focus. make the money to get freedom. No fights with others. THink logically. no stress with other’s drama. that they try to throw at you. stay with good people. don’t let others drag you down. even if family. focus . discipline. guess you can include. 'will of iron." is a must have.
That’s what David Choe did, richest fine artist in the planet who didnt make it off his artwork. he made it from stealing, to gamble, to then gamble more.
That said, I think most people are better off doing their gambling out in the real world. The casino is designed to be a trap for 99.9%.
Get out there, learn the game, get educated, put in the work, put your life into it and on the line.
No . he makes money from farming and other business. He don’t gamble much but he learns about the game and meeting those that do gamble and make money from big sports betting. He do calculated gamble on business not casino gambling or sports. He’s met others who make a living off gambling though. THe key is discipline and knowing your game. IF you are ahead stop. Small percentage win is ok , it will add up to you having bigger capital. 10a day for 30 days net u 300. Everyone can win 10 bucks with 100 dollar. Take that 300 bucks of past monthly win and win 30 bucks a day for 30 days net you 900. Take that 900 win 90 a day for 30 days net you 2700. SO basically you increase your bet the more capital you have. however, everyone can make 10% your buy in. Most want to make 500% their buy in. buy in 100 to make 500 bucks. unrealistic. Sure there are times you can make 500 off 100 but very rare. Almost guarantee you can make 50 bucks with 500 buy in each time. problem is people have no discipline. Even myself i lose cuz i stay longer and going for more percentage win. I think you get the concept. with these examples.
U start small but it adds up. Until you can get that capital to get higher you will eventually make more than your day job.
This is what you call discipline. read this story. He’s pretty smart to go into real estate and using secret shopper to pay for his dates. I’m sure there’s some things you can learn from this story. He don’t just rent properties. He rents the room which net more money.
here’s another example. these guys think outside the box and have multiple streams of income. And live frugal. what about you?
