I was thinking of trying to contact Lucifer, I have the sigil ready but for some reason I keep postponing.
I was also wondering two things:
I have drawn the sigil, does it have to be 100% accurate? Mine is except for a point being a few ml off than it should be, I think it is no big deal but is it really?
Does Lucifer know whom is planning to contact him before they actually do?
No, it doesnât have to be 100% accurate. Most of the sigils you see floating around nowadays look quite a bit different from what they looked like when they were first received by sorcerers of old.
Yes, your intent is formed on astral for all to see what youâre planning to do.
Youâre probably postponing because itâs not your time to work with Lucifer yet. Usually, when a spirit wants to work/speak with you, youâll feel a compulsion that you canât repel to contact them.
I should point out that the sigil should be AS CLOSE to the original as you can make it. The more, the better. But itâs ok if itâs not perfect. Completely butchering the sigil might make it ineffective.
Iâd been sort of intending to work with Lucifer for quite some time. He eventually showed up at bedtime and told me that it was time to start my ascension. So I started working with him the next day.
He might turn up anyway if you keep dillying and dallying.
That sigil is particular to Lucifer in Asia. It is a very specific manifestation that might prove to be problematic. If you are European, I recommend Lucifer in Europeâs sigil which is:
Hereâs the reasoning why: If you are European, the Lucifer in Europe sigil would prove to be better as it will bring forth a manifestation closer to your ancestry and your overall makeup. Youâll connect to it better and youâll resonate with it better.
Otherwise, the prime sigil of Lucifer (large circular one) should be better as it is universal.
But, ultimately, itâs up to you decide which of these sigils calls out to you. Experiment, see what tickles your fancy.
âŚand if you donât feel like calling Lucifer (postponing and just being lazy about it) and no matter what, you canât bring yourself to call him, donât do it. Thatâs a clear message.
Thatâs a fine sigil you have drawn there. And, no, it just means you shouldnât work with him at this time. You might resonate with something else right now, though. Itâs really important not to force these things.
No problem, and on a final note: thereâs a difference between them letting you know not to bother them and just being lazy. If you feel this inexplicable laziness and no matter what you just canât bring yourself to call the spirit, then thatâs it. But if youâre naturally lazy and it feels like normal laziness then itâs just you. Vague, I know, but I really donât know how to explain it. When the spirit is rejecting youâll feel a compulsive laziness toward them. Youâll do everything in your power (unconsciously) to do something else and not call the spirit. It can also involve other people interrupting you constantly.
Using the sigil you found on the forum is fine. It is what most magicians use for Lucifer, including plenty of Europeans such as Asenath Mason. It is the most well known seal for Lucifer, and I have never heard of it referred to as the âAsian-Luciferâ sigil. It works perfectly well.
Very few use those found in the Grimorium Verum and I think it is ridiculous to claim that it is the âEuropeanâ sigil. Many spirits have multiple seals, and it really comes down to using whichever one you are drawn to.
For example, there are a few spirits in the Goetia with more than one seal, and when I was doing the 72 Challenge, I let my intuition choose which one to work with. The one chosen tended to me more energetically active for me.
Youâre postponing because itâs draining for you. You donât really want to do it. The fact that youâre asking why youâre postponing tells me that you feel some kind of foreign pressure to do it, like youâre trying to meet an expectation that was set for you without your consent. (It might be rooted in something that goes way back.)
Deep down you know you shouldnât be doing it because itâs too much work for you, and you secretly want someone else to do it for you, but are unwilling to give up enough control for that.
If youâre not doing this to meet some kind of survival need, youâll probably postpone it indefinitely eventually.
You donât need to make it so hard for yourself. Another reason for procrastinating is fear of failure. However in this case, Lucifer is one of those who always comes, whether you have opened your astral senses to sense him or not, he will be there, so donât worry about that.
You donât even need a sigil - Lucifer knows his name is probably waiting for you to get in touch.
Go with whichever one you personally feel drawn to using the most.
I got grimorum verum, after I already met Lucifer, and still use the âasianâ symbol. I do feel the sigils have different energy, but I havenât opened the GV version to check whoâs behind it yet. To a certain extent, most of us have such mixed dna and spirtual ancestry from all over I donât really see the use in being territorial about it - unless the spirits were so, and this one isnât.
What @Mulberry said is right on. Intent matters a lot. And Father Lucifer is one of the easiest entities to work with. He always listens, heâs always there, whether you sense him or not. And he always has our best interests in view when interacting with us.
Go, and contact him! You canât really go wrong; and chances are likely that if you do something wrong, heâll correct you gently.
Why is it ridiculous? The âEuropean sigilâ and âAsian sigilâ are descriptions found in the Grimorium Verum. It is said that these sigils bring forth Lucifer who holds dominion over Europe and the Lucifer who holds dominion over Asia respectively.
Things are there for a reason. Itâs not just âsuperstitiousâ people making things up and the post-modern folk being so enlightened that they know better as opposed to those primitives. There is a reason why the sigils are differentiated.
The grimoires as you see them are a result of experimentation and politics.
No offense but if you havenât even heard of these sigils how can you even claim that itâs ridiculous? Many people here donât go beyond the Lemegeton (which is a nonsense text as was proven by many people even here on this forum) and look for other sigils on the internet. Either the internet or the books published by post-modern sorcerers.
Iâm not saying that post-modern sorcerers are ALL wrong. Iâm saying that itâs unfair to judge the work of older sorcerers when you nothing or very little about it.