Who is Lucifer to you?

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A figure known as “the satan” first appears in the Hebrew Bible, as a heavenly prosecutor, a member of the sons of God subordinate to Yahweh, who prosecutes the nation of Judah in the heavenly court and tests the loyalty of Yahweh’s followers by forcing them to suffer.

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Lucifer is a name, ‘Satan’ almost a ‘title’, a ‘verb’ rather than a name. You don’t need to go far to find out there are many, many Satans out there.

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Does he like egg rolls though? I’m being so serious.

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Ask him personally if he likes it.

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I drew a 7 of Wands, guess that’s a no.

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Does he like egg rolls though? I’m being so serious.

To me He told that if I would like egg rolls and If I wished to share with Him (after I ate from it, then I can offer the rest of it to Him), He would accept it.
…but I don’t like it, so.… :woman_shrugging::smile:

It may be because if you taste something, you have “connected” to it in some ways, and maybe this is what can makes even this things “offerable” to Them. Of course, if your relationship isn’t enough strong, They can refuse it if They want.

(For example, I still don’t know why did He asked me to offer my menstrual blood, for as I know it isn’t too frequent offering to Him.)

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In my opinion, Lucifer is the duality of Jesus.

The ideal of the morning star to bring back the lost. I guess what I’m saying is [especially through research of texts] Lucifer cannot exist without Jesus and Jesus cannot exist without Lucifer. I see them both as the fallen son who became prodigal through some viewers and became the left hand of vengeance and angst through others. At least from an archetype of the mind standpoint. Same as how Satan cannot exist without God or presence cannot exist without absence.

I’m sure others will disagree but this is how I have perceived him.

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Like i said here in this thread. Many have channeled Lucifer as Helel. I did not.
So i still wondered, is there thruth in him being the first Angel Helel. My personal feeling says yes… So i did do divination in which i call him with his enn: “Renich Tasa Uberaca Biasa Lucifer” and gaze into the sigil. He mostly gives answers via the Pendulum, but i can channel him too.
So sometimes he begins to talk, while I’m doing divination.

18.36 hours, Amsterdam Time Zone

I did divination with Lucifer. Offering wine.

  1. Are you Heylal, Helel?

Yes

  1. Was that your first name, before they called you Lucifer?

Yes

  1. Are you Samael or is he one of your Masks?

Yes

  1. Are you a Roman God?

No

  1. Is Prometheus a mask of yours?

Yes

Channeling:
“People doubt of my existence. They did in the past, they will in the future. But as you know: I was, I am now and I will be… Don’t worry they will see”.

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In this channeling Lucifer points me to Azazel. ‘They channel him, work with him. How can they then doubt me’.

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Azazel is a separate entity from Lucifer? Someone say he is a mask

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That’s exactly what he’s saying :slight_smile:

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Saturnian mask?

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Yes a mask:

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Thanks

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Its a Hebrew word for ‘enemie’ a very board term. Can mean anything from angonist or opponet

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Only coat tailing to add that it is loosely based off of the concept of Belial which translates to Betrayal. It’s the concept of a constant enemy.

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Bookmarked

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I did a blood magick ritual to Lucifer where in I meditated on the sigil chanted the enn and smeered my blood on the sigil and burned it along with my request. I did not get exactly what I wanted but I did get to meet some new people and I came across this book entitled The Gnostic Bible in a very mysterous way. I think the book is really Lucifers revelations.

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And that’s how dogma starts. It means accuser, adversary (Hebrew)

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if you want to be technical

enemy is a synonym for adversary

and if your gonna quote me

then ‘quote’ me

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