Who is Baphomet

No. I don’t share any previous lifetimes with my patron, either. In fact we didn’t know shit about each other until a while ago. You don’t always need an epic backstory to make it “click”.

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I’m still not in agreement with the “created” part. Baphomet seems primordial to me yet I can’t find any information to verify it.

No but Sebastien was… When he mentioned

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Sounds like you have an important question to ask: did you really have only one patron throughout all your past lives? Or is there a possiblity he was one of others throughout your soul’s journey, both in this plane and others?

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Anything can “feel” primordial, even egregores. A primordial feeling doesn’t exactly mean they are ancient in their being, primordial feeling can also come from experience and knowledge and egregores have ties to the collective unconscious in how they can appear to many people even if created by a single individual or group.

Feeling primordial in and of itself is vague.

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Yes as soon as you tap into something from outside the physical it will feel different and a lot of persons would describe it as primordial.

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Not necessarily, people sometimes have different Patrons throughout their single earthly life, it’s not unreasonable that you’d have different ones in different lifetimes.

It’s entirely possible he’s housing an older spirit, then. One close enough in form that the mask fitted, and he moved himself in, and then took over steering that form’s agenda.

We don’t hear much about the proto-Indo-European Divine Twins in the west these days, but the Bogdanoff brothers meme was sure powerful there for a while, and any informative or satirical show will often have two male hosts, one’s the straight man and the other’s the comic. Same archetype/current, in a modern (and degraded) presentation.

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I have met very few persons who can give their lives on the fact that they truly believe they have lived several lives always in the company of the one same spirit.

I don’t “feel” anything. My intuition and gut is telling me this deity is ancien and primordial. I refuse to believe otherwise but like I said I can’t find any information to verify that.

You just said he feels primordial and intuition is feeling…so you have your own idea set but continuing to pull people in circles on this subject lol.

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it is not something I found important enough to explore on my end if I am honest, although the spirit closest to being called my patron claims we have walked for quite a long time. But he also claimed this is not the first lifetime I have worked with many as well. I don’t know, perhaps I will look into it one day.

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This reminds me of Michael’s left and right hand Bearers Zadkiel and Jophiel, this is pretty interesting.

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You gonna go speaking of Mickey I’m going bye :smiling_imp:

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How do I figured out what that spirit is? I’d rather work with them in their true form than in this form that has no verifiable or valid history.

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Ask him to reveal his earliest form, write down everything you get - every sound, impression, maybe letter you see etc., and then share what you saw/felt/heard on here, maybe we’ll be able to figure something out, we bring a diverse range of knowledge to any questions on here. :+1:

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@Lady_Eva gave sound advice. You can also learn as much as you can about the mask, work with it, figure out why the symbolism is important for you as that can a big reason why spirits appear to us in the way they do. That was the path I had to take with the spirit I mentioned to discover his depths.

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9 posts were split to a new topic: Beginner help needed please

@itssebastienc
Spirits wear masks too. How many spirits aid in the process of dissolution? How many of them aid in the process of building up your spirit? In that context baphomet could be a metaphor or mask for any spirit that helps with ascent. So I understand where the confusion could be coming from in that retrospect.

Perhaps you’re currently going through something in your life that’s causing baphomet to making itself known to you? Symbolism is important and it’s always smart to start with the symbolism being communicated to you. Doing this will help you start the process of elimination when the information you’re getting is vague or incorrect.

I think you’re dealing with your shadow. It seems like there’s certain aspects of yourself trying to make themselves known to you and you’re grasping at straws trying to define this experience as something outside of yourself. Your shadow self can appear to you as a spirit and this can be confusing for people who don’t know the difference between their shadow and a spirit.

In case if you’re curious.

I’m assuming you’re new to the occult because of your posts. When someone is new to this stuff there’s a lot of new things you have to get used to. The main thing is a shift in awareness. As a neophyte you start to become aware of things that were previously unknown to you. This includes things related to yourself.

You may not like the answer I’m giving you but that’s what I think is going on. In my beliefs baphomet is the dark goddess. Everything you’ve said would lead me to believe you’re not dealing with the goddess of my tradition. I think you’re really dealing with your shadow and it’s making itself known to you through the symbolism associated with the commonly known version of baphomet.

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badabush! someone speaks some sense…
just whave ive been going on about…its more and more nowadays…a lot of people deal with this thinking they are speaking with all sorts of manners Gods and Demons and Angels…weeeehheee

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It’s not the answer they’re looking for.

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