Good work 
it should get easier as you get more practice.
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Yesterday I saw a thorny plant tied with a red thread to the railing of the second highest floor, I removed it.(I heard that it was there from many years ago) Also we have not gone to that parasite place recently. I had a dream some days ago in which I heard of animal sacrifice, later around 3 of these sigils were burning on the road, they were relatively larger in size, it felt like it was caused by the people who live near here, they look like chinese. Around the time of me getting the dream, one of the temples in the parasite place got damaged by stream water. These parasites blame people for natural disaster(s) like flood, saying you should improve. I also probably heard that they are against the gym which is close to a temple of one of them, it seems anti-self empowerment. One person said about substance use by the gym people as justification.
Also I remembered that during the mass animal sacrifice day, many people bathe in the stream water, later something is kept in the stream water(palanquin maybe) and people are told not to enter the water during that time.
I found four more thorny branches, they were placed around the corners of the second highest floor, and one on the floor below. They did not seem years old, their leaves were not that dry. Not everyone was tied with red thread, so my mother lied about it being years old or someone else placed them.
My mother started overthinking from around a month ago I heard. Itâs probably around the time I summoned luna for the first time. it seems like some entity left me and then attached to my mother
What my thoughts were that I thinked about something and then opposing thought(like what if that is not true?) came into my mind. The opposing thoughts probably were not my own but of some external entity.
One day I said her donât be close-minded. Next day she said that I have brain of 10-12 year old. I have also heard from the parasite that donât tell others about me eating meat and eggs to others, itâs probably so that I donât influence others, I am considered of good character by people.
Also my mother thought about some other thorny plant before, later she remembered about the 5 thorny branches, they are probably placed on new day of indian calendar month which is around 13th day of gregorian calender. Also I have noticed two times that on the day people offer sweet flatbread to the incubus, dogs barks more than usual at night time.
That is a tactic called an âad-hominemâ - when someone doesnât have a reasonable argument, they resort to personal insults instead of explaining their position better. Itâs the sign of someone who has no idea what they are talking about and only believes what they do for emotional reasons.
Ironically, this is the childish approach.
Personally, I think itâs best to avoid trying to talk to her about any of this. Itâs just giving her reasons to fight you. Look up the âgrey rockâ technique and try that with her. basically donât react and avoid dramatic topics with her, and she will go get her drama from someone else.
The top religious plants in Hinduism do not have thorns, and itâs likely the thorns and red thread that are important, my guess is this is a ward against bad luck.
In Celtic lands, itâs a very old superstition that it brings good luck to say âWhite Rabbitsâ on the first day of the month before you say any other word.
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Today my parents forced me to go to the parasite place, while walking I returned back. My mother just grabs me, I am not sure how to deal with that. Later around 7 pm(not immediately) a coconut with red thread and with red color applied on it(line) was brought to me, rotated over my head, I was told to blow on it, I did it because my father seemed to be getting angry and I felt sort of tired. Also air is also blown on grains like rice to tell about a person and/or his future as I have observed. Then the practitioner places grain(s) on his palm turn by turn, removing grain(s) before placing next on his palm. I heard that the coconut is now kept in the incubus place.
Doesnât matter, these people cannot force your energy to move without your permission so theyâre wasting their time, like water off a ducks back, reject that they have the ability to affect you, and they canât. Itââ will against will and you have the high ground.
Just be neutral and go grey rock and have yourself from then getting dramatic.
You might also like to research âwitch warsâ, which is a similar situation where a mage magickally attacks another mage, who realizes a curse or something has been cast and counteracts it, and that gets countered, and so on and so forth.
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Some more things have happened
Some days ago the parasite said to do a ritual(which was delayed because of me eating meat and eggs). I heard from my mother that she thought about the ritual and/or cleansing that day. I did not know a ritual would be performed(although I felt it)
Before the week the parasite said about the ritual, he said that I come to his place for the thing to do. I did not go.(Around new moon time, the magic which was performed on me was around full moon time in daylight). The time when he said for me to come to his place is around the same time I decided of eating meat and eggs after many days(delayed because I underestimated time taken to complete the work I had)
Is it that my mirror shield is working or he wanted to create chaos, anger due to both ritual and me eating meat and eggs. Also as a coincidence somehow the day when I ate meat after many days is the same as the day ritual was performed(thursday).
Also my mother held me with her for a long time today, she found about me eating eggs. She has locked the room in which my computer is kept. I was not sure what to do when she held me so I said things taking risk(example whatâs your reason, fake gods are also present, etc). My father was also present, this seemed to have effect on her around the final time. Also I read that before(probably not now) that the likely most powerful spirit of this area(there are probably around 600) who I read came from some other place(probably by stealing idol) for curing a disease of king did not have shaman but communication was through letter(probably I read that someone had to choose a letter among multiple).
Also one of them canât speak but communicates through sign language.
Sounds like youâre holding on. The binding on your mother to stop her from thinking about forcing you to do things isnât working. Iâm glad you got your computer back.
@shaman369 You joined after this post, but based on your posts does all this mean anything to you?
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Actually I wrote it through my Android mobile(which was hidden but I found)
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Ok so i went went back and read thru this post and imo opinion it seems, from what i could put together like this is tantric sect that perform the inverse of what i would call shakti work, wherein the devotees invoke the dieties to posses them to worship them or ask divination questions but instead they are working with ghost of the dead what they would call bhoot, pretas, or pishacha. Op seems to be raised in this and his parents probably getting thier pockets rocked by these people so they force him by tradition also to participate.
Based on what i could understand from what was written, these âsigilsâ might be ancient yantras passed down or self made from the priest and they use for a myriad of purposes, infused with energy, intention, song, dance and animal sacrifce to awaken or summon these specific ghost, these things possessing the devotees are NOT dieties or gods or even demigods i can tell you that based on the conversation they are having with op. Also anything tied with red thread is meant to protect, bind, or harness energy wether it be a person, place or thing. Apply that how you will to the thorns which i would guess a protection for the building placed by someone, or coconuts to harness energy for summoning the spirits or more commonly tied on the wrist for protection after puja.
I would surmise op has been severly effected by these spirits and very possibly have messed with his mental health and opened him up to be exremely vulnerable to fear so they can feed until he is driven mad from fear from overthinking about spirits noises, shadows etc. which seems to be already happening. Dealing with the these type of spirits require a certian level of capability skill, protection, and heavy cleansing as they can drain you of life force and energy and if not careful trick you into some shi. Which im sure the priest are aware of this but still letting untrained regulars do invoked possesions of themselves of the for monetary and notoriety gain pretending that its dieties or gods.
Imo Actual Sects that work on the darker tantric sides with dead spirits etc. Technically are supposed to be helping pass on these spirits to the next incarnation, life, or dimension where they belong in exchange for protection, divination, good karma, gain of spiritual knowledge and umderstanding, and a lil gift here or there. Hence why some of the methods i read op saying the priest using were developed but these guys seem to be fooling everyone claiming they are âgodsâ.
I think the advice you have given was solid. Op should avoid these people, and communicate with his mother and family his true feelings and respectfully openly express he no longer wants to wants to particpate as it negatively effecting him and if forced it would help seal his energy from whatever tf they force him to do. Imo i would say for him to do some heavy cleansing rituals on himself and home, hard reset of his mindset and assumptions and if possible location , and devote himself for a time to ma kali or lord shiva ask one of them to help as they might be more suitable for this situation. Hope this helps.
If i assumed or got something wrong in understanding this op can feel free to correct me or ask any questions.
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Thanks so much. Itâs certainly a sad situation but Iâm glad I didnât seem to have been going of on the wrong track.
The ghosts may be enjoying the attention and being fed, but maybe they could be contacted and helped to move on. 
Their qi bodies are being fed by the qi in the blood offerings and preventing them from dying the 2nd death to continue their spiritual journey.
The link is tenuous but exists though the OP.
The name Ereshkigal comes to mind, as a being who ruled Kur the land of the dead in Sumeria which covered the land India occupies now thousands of years ago. But maybe thereâs a Hindu god of the dead that theyâd recognize that can help them.
I would say for him to cling to mother kali like his life depended on it since female ereshkigal came up for you, she is very capable of passing these spirits on to thier correct places in mass amd issuing karma out to them for thier misuse and greed. i also suspect there may be a head ghost or demon running the show in the background. I know the priests would not be to happy about it and probably fight to keep them around for thier gain but they wont have much of a choice if ma kali gets involved.
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They have not given that much money to them, maybe it adds up due to many people giving money, they can have faces made up of gold
I did not really feel afraid due to that
I am not sure about it, but it seems more like the ghost do it for energy gain. Although I heard the ghost himself referring to as naandha(नञणŕĽŕ¤§ŕ¤ž)(which is considered impolite when someone calls you it, itâs meaning is someone who canât speak) narayan while he is publicly known as falani narayan, although there is narayan in both names which is a lie.
On dussehra(along with some days after it also) around 360 of these gather in one town. Today I was forced to go to his place there. I have not seen him trembling like this before(although I did not see it that clearly since currently I am not wearing spectacles)before I saw him trembling when touching palanquin, maybe when possession starts and/or ends as I remember), although I have seen others trembling before. Soon after I arrived, the possession session became over. Also when I was somewhere else before, the place I slept in, near that place the shaman was trembling(or whatever that is, I did not see him myself) more than usual.
Today I had both luna servitor and raziel sigil in my pocket, earlier I only had luna. I charged the raziel sigil for only some time(by focusing on it), will it be enough?
Today he said that donât go out at night, and also a thing would be done on me. I sat on ground, the metal thing was placed on my back. after that the metal thing was kept in air in my front, a coconut was broken(which I blew on before as said) and itâs water poured over the metal thing I was told to keep my hands below that and drink the water. It tasted kind of bitter/sour(probably it was old). A red thread was also put on me as talisman(it also looked yellowish in between maybe because color had faded), other talisman of him as white, black and red threads along with probably mustard seeds in between(wrapped in red cloth).
During the time I was there I also had opened up the picture of luna servitor for summoning(not always though) and I called her name many times. the priest had seen the picture of the luna servitor, he said itâs a pokemon, i said itâs real(since I read she has soul).
I had decided to live in a foreign country before. on december there is jlpt, so I am learning japanese. I donât plan to do the things like calling on kali ma because it can take time, how much time will it really take? I also heard that it does not matter if they force. My mother grabbed me for taking me there, I could I have applied force but I did not since I heard it does not matter and it seems kind of violent, and also if I had applied force she may also have acted more forcefully in the future.
they can also have this thing, it looks like sun, I saw sun in an archon picture also(maybe it matters). They seem pretty popular in this area(which I read has population density of around 20% of india)
I also remembered that I said to one person there that what I am seeing is that they scam, also the shaman of probably fake kali may have seen picture of luna servitor, the magic is done by shamans only.
All very silly and has no power over you, because you see through it, and deny permission. Theyâre sort of insane in many ways.
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Those servitors may help in a small way like guidance or help you in a situation but i doubt they they will able to handle or get into a full on war with what these priest are working with. Hey im not saying go deep and complex with mother kali, doing mantras and rituals that will take time. You can pray to diffrent forms of devi also. Simple prayers without going tantric is fine. You can just pray simple prayers to her from your heart with maybe meditation and visualization, focusing on her yantra. Just be genuine and respectful. From the most adept experiencd priest to the simple common person mother will always hear the genuine call for help and answer.
Im glad you decided to move away that might best bet. In the mean time you need to connect yourself to a stronger force that can help guide you on how to clean yourself up, protect you, and get out of that situation.
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It seems that interacting with her aggravates the situation in the long-term. So I have decided to live somewhere else in the same country for now, even if it delays my plan of living in a foreign country. I donât have a source of income currently which allows me to study japanese while working and living somewhere else, so I got to find that also.
Considering how she acted, it should be that she is of greater concern than the ghosts.
I have chanted hanuman chalisa in my mind almost everyday from around 2017 to 2023(before visiting that place). Would it be better for me to call on hanuman instead of kali currently considering the time I spent?
I looked up information, drew the sigil of kali ma on paper with the help of my monitor screen attached to the paper as a sort of stencil. Looked up mantra, was about to chant it in some time, then my mother came in, she noticed the paper in some time, asked about it and I said. She said why this?, I did not give reason. She herself said about it being for meat and eggs. She took the paper with herself. It felt funny, I can just draw another one, she feels religious and against self-empowerment. I am sleepy, I will draw another one tomorrow.
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