What determines the power of a mage?

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Hi! It’s me again. In my attempts to combat lust, I’ve tried a lot of things and reflected on what works and what doesn’t, including this post.

The main question is: what makes one spell stronger than another, one mage stronger than another? Why can two people do the same thing but get different results?

You can say that these are some Objects, rituals, altars, symbols, words, amulets, potions… but it is constantly mentioned on the forum that all we need for magic is our mind.
In the Draconian Ritual Book by Asenath Mason, in the section “Personal Temple,” it is written that all of these are just tools to help you tune in to the work, but are not necessary for the result.
Plus, magic can be “pronounced” in different languages ​​and is not tied to a specific one.
So I conclude that it is not material objects and specific ritual actions that make our magic stronger.

And as I discussed earlier in another post:

But they don’t. So faith and intention are not the answer.

I’ve read in other threads that emotions and feelings give magic its power. But is that true? Does this mean that it is impossible to do anything related to magic in a state of calm? I am sure that many monks, priests and yogis prioritize a state of peace rather than intense feelings. So that’s probably not the answer either…

Using someone else’s power? Calling on some spirits for help? Perhaps, but that would mean we’re completely powerless and only capable of calling on others.

Perception and concentration?
By paying attention to a sense organ, we intensify the sensations it perceives. This is simply a psychological fact. Moreover, this is what training the astral senses, Clair senses, comes down to.
Concentration is the ability to hold our attention on something. This is certainly an important quality for absolutely any activity performed by the mind.
But does it enhance our spells, invocations, energy, astral senses? idk

Energy work? I also think it’s all simply tied to the perception of sensations. Some meditate on the seven chakras, others use more advanced or entirely different systems, some on the astral body, and so on. Some simply use visualization, supposedly channeling energy in this way. There are many different methods and their descriptions, but they all have one thing in common - directing attention to something that can evoke sensations… or rather, we begin to feel something better.

So, what should we do to become more powerful in magic? What’s truly important, and what’s just a matter of preference?

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Being a late 50s bi single, childless, never married male, while I have my hot moments, lust isn’t a thing or even an interest.

That out of the way, my personal focus is Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs and it’s cross transference into the definition of magic.

This being my start I go back to ancient civilizations when magic was real without television or radio, and why their magic worked. Not even necessarily Egypt, as several civilizations existed before Egypt.

Continents even.

I digress. What makes one mage more powerful than another?

Dedication, drive, devotion. Perfect persistent practice.

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In my opinion, belief systems. Or your own BS for short. :slight_smile:

This is twofold.

  1. Know yourself, know why you think you’re weak, what skills you have, what to improve, and what is wasting your time, why you want “power” and what that even means at the deepest levels.
  2. Having identified what’s real and what’s time-wasting, cleanse yourself of the dross and grunge of your bs, learn and build skills with practice.
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I’ll heal you when the time is right.

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I appreciate your offer, especially since you’re the one who reminds me of it and doesn’t just disappear. But I feel like I’m to blame for what’s happening, and it’s my duty to learn to deal with these kinds of problems myself so I can become stronger.

But, again, thank you!

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I only know that Eastern practices are aimed at increasing this resource. Magic and abilities are just a by-product for them. So you can just turn to one of the classic schools.

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Qigong, Tai Chi, Yoga? There’s a ton of junk out there right now, and it’s hard to find reliable information about the magic and energy in these areas, rather than just a list of fitness exercises.

But I would be glad if someone sent me something specific and said, “Do this.” :blush:

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Unfortunately, I only know the materials in my native language. But it seems that one of the moderators was engaged in these systems, I remember reading somewhere.

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Although it seems to me that if you look for the manuals and read who their author is, you will be able to identify which of them belongs to the classics, without an impurity. I suspect that all this is quite accessible.

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My primary language is Russian, and if I’m not mistaken, yours is too. So, if the problem was specifically with the language, you could share. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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Oh, then I’ll write you a selection in private messages👌

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What @Mulberry said, with the addition. How much discipline and devotion goes into your craft. There will always be people where it comes easy and some that really have to work for it. In either case, it’s a skill and regular, disciplined practice makes all the difference.

Oooh, and try out different systems. What works for some, can do F all for another.

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Yes exactly. ^

Everything is energy. We are electromagnetic beings so the format of that energy is mainly electromagnetism, or EM for short.

Imagine filling a room with light. The color of the light is the frequency, and how bright it is is called the amplitude. If you want a color in the room replaced with your color, you have to make your light brighter to drown out the dimmer color. And you have to do it for long enough for it to stay any not return to the unwanted color. A powerful lamp will wash out a dim one.

So if the power of an EM wave is measured by it’s amplitude. If you supply a higher amplitude of your energy towards a situation to change it - higher than the energy of all the people expecting something different - and for long enough, then it will change.

However, now imagine that room lap is not clear and steady, it’s not one color but keeps changing to other colors - this is analogous to inconsistent and confused intent, and it has less effect on the other color in the room, no staying power, and might just steady out to the wrong color than what you wanted entirely.

So one of the greatest barriers to a mage putting out consistent and high amplitude energy towards a result, is thier own inner conflicts, before you even get to finding out if the output was string enough to override the ambient energy in the situation.

Depending on the working, and especially if there’s no other people involved, the ambient energy is not that great. And in this case the mage himself IS the barrier.

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About this bit:

Well if you’re going to tiktok for your info that would be “junky” yes. Otherwise, no not really. These are ancient systems - over 10,000 years old - read the classics and listen from people who have achieved recognition for walking their talk in these communities. Actual books not short-attention-span social media clickbait.

We have a bunch of book recommendations specifically for qigong here: Unofficial Tutorials: Book Recommendations Collection - #19 by Mulberry

I don’t know about yoga but you want to look into “tantra” and the breathing exercises.

These are foundational and cannot be dismissed. You have to prepare your body for the energy work as the two are interlinked Like trying to lift 400lb in your first day in the gym, just jumping in to advanced energy work without being fit first is likely to cause injury

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I enjoy reading your answers and always find something useful for my understanding too!

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Congradulatioins. You’ve begun to ask questions that will DeBunk 99% as BS.

  • Intention: Its still important. The answer is Multi-Pronged.
  • Faith: Also important. Not necessarily about Religion.. but if you do not believe then you cannot really truly begin to Intend.

This is the most likely reason. Most peoples methods around here involve this.

  1. Faith - this is the foundational structure needed to perform magick. It involves all the elements needed to do magick. It is sort of Passive.. unless you Reinforce it actively.

  2. Intention - This is Active use of Ones Emotions+Thought. Emotions is just a less dense version of WILL (life force) energy. Thoughts are a singular aspect of or the informational program of Faith (which can consist of anything).

  3. WILL - This precedes intention. Its basically ones Root Chakra Power or Raw Nature. You can recapitulate your WILL by reclaiming your Sexual Power and not focusing it outside of yourself. True Will is when you have taken your Base Energy and Pinned it on a Higher Purpose.. like having a Doctrine.. Making a Covenant.. Having ones own Spiritual “Constitution” or sacred code of Ethics. This means having True Will is a laser sharp focus of ones Purpose in Life and it makes it difficult to divert you on a Path. This is basically your unprogrammed or programmed life force.

  4. Will empowers Intention. Faith is the “informational program” of the Life Force.

  5. To become more powerful.. know yourself and clean up your Psychology.

  6. Become more Cohesive in your Purpose.

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Just as every person is truly unique, so is their form of spirituality. Indeed, there are bigger and smaller spiritual currents in the world. The Abrahamic current is a massive spiritual titan because of the whole planet feeding energy into it. But that doesn’t mean every person who uses it is going to be monstrously powerful. The ways they utilize it, channel it, perceive the world through it, the technical skills of their practice – there are too many factors to just say, “someone is more powerful than the other”.

Just like warfare, you don’t need to be a big badass to kill. There are women and children who fight wars in the world. No one is untouchable, and all it takes is some willpower, know-how, and some unanticipated tricks up your sleeve. Same goes for magick.

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I can’t decide where to put this. Recent communication with Ba’al.

So, the day of the big document drop, you know which one, my son and I were commenting on them while driving. Suddenly, I felt the very strong, very angry presence of Ba’al. Ba’al, to summarize, doesn’t like super traumatized children dumped into his dimension. Every time I communicated ‘children’, he would correct me and insert ‘traumatized,’ like villain-origin-story-traumatized. I could say he’s on a literal witch hunt. He also said, what is the point of such a large, cruel rituals when a few smaller rituals would add up to the same effect.

My notes from our conversation: “This isn’t the only way to get power“ - choosing the hardest and most destructive way to achieve a set goal due entirely to selfishness and psychopathy. - can offer your own blood for instance. Is it better to have one giant ritual or multiple smaller, safer rituals that amount to the same thing?

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@DemonMama We actually already have this current-ish discussion about power, so I have moved it here and you can scroll up and see what others have said on the topic.

The mention of current affairs could tempt people to break the no-politics rule - guys, do me a solid and keep it magickal, political posts have to be removed before they get divisive and/or non-magick oriented.

We have MANY discussion on here about power, btw:
https://forum.becomealivinggod.com/search?expanded=true&q=power

It’s not any way at all… over humans - you control sheep through fear, it’s all physical world stuff. Magickal power has nothing to do with any of what’s been going on and is not even remotely related. Psychopaths are usually areligious and non-spiritual, they actually believe in nothing, so hedonism is all they have. They couldn’t magick thier way out of a wet paper bag.

Do do what exactly? Define what you want or your efforts are wasted. What is “power”? - know that and know yourself and you’re good.

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Don’t know what your talking about. But lemme peice togethor a few things on a rant within the context of this chat thread topic:

Ba’al isn’t angry.. just more aggressive so seems to be “angry.” This normally happens when you come around more Primordial Energies. Might actually be a little annoyed that there is “unneccessary deviation..” So if you do it right the first time then there is no actual energetic waste.. and complaining about energetic waste ..essentially the annoyance is you create the problem you complain about.. I’ve observed this being a frequent problem in the past.. hence the referrence to such practitioners being like “Children” in the newbie sense. So in a nutshell to upgrade your understanding of Big vs Small Rituals.. its most likely more about “efficiency” in tandem with alignment so that you are not creating “unneccessary deviations.” Thats where Research & Collaboration comes in! At that point the rituals probably aren’t as cruel.

:face_blowing_a_kiss: Interesting Fact :face_blowing_a_kiss:

“Shapovalov” a masculine form of “Shapovalova” (feminine) which has a nice ring to it almost like one is making some hip dance gesture (my weird quirk in thoughts) when saying “Sha-po-vah-lo-vah…” :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

:innocent: “Sha-po” a Veil for the Crown.. derived from “French Chapeau” via Russian “Shapa/Shapka”. Not a direct but rather parallel meanings if you want to point to explicit language breakdowns.. but it essentially means the same thing.. a Cap/Cloak for the Head.

:face_with_peeking_eye: “Val” molding.. the act of “Casting.”

:heart_eyes: “Lova” Phonetically mirrors “Beleth.”

So a person with a last name of the “Shapo” is essentially like a Physical Ritual peice… loose interpretation.. a potential “Beleth Candidate” is “Cloaking herself” via a “Head Cloak…” such as a Black Headscarf wrap (not covering face) when going for a “Beauty Stroll” in the jungle/concrete jungle :laughing:

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:face_with_monocle: How can a Mage improve their power? :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

Why none other than the Power of Love of course… (Beleth).. :smirking_face: Not just mere Sappy Love or Simple Lust alone.. but also in Love in pursuit of your AIMS. I believe Crowley had a similar quote to this…

:melting_face: But knowing Crowley’s direction and Efficiency & Alignment (Big wasteful rituals vs Small effective Rituals) is key in knowing how to A.I.M. Beleth Love & Lust magick on the proper things…

:face_with_crossed_out_eyes: NOT… avoiding it with “Shapo Invisibility Veils” because Grown-Up “Adult Children” (young adults.. probably in the age range of High 20’s to 40’s) are traumatized by Beleth Rituals that are probably misinterpreted as “Angry Ba’al” encounters (Simply because such beings utilize High Energy..). and so seek Avoidance.

:face_with_crossed_out_eyes: NOT by focusing on the wrong or Negative paths.

in Context of this chat topic my advice to keep it grounded and safe and effective… Do it RIGHT the first time.. hence the reason for taking it slower.. no Knee-Jerk responses followed by a Boatload of Energy. So knowing the “proper detail” before applying the energy will save you from the “Big Waste,” because even taking it slow the wrong direction actually adds up over time to eventually become “Big Waste.” So take it slow… but Do it Right and in perfect alignment with your real world people collaborations & entity collaborations.

:heart: :heart: :heart: Only the Power of Love can Save the World… The King must unite in a Bond of Love with his Rightful Queen for the World to be saved.. for The King is one with the Land & People (just a metaphor to think about). :heart: :heart: :heart:

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:Yeah “Ba’al” is on a Witch Hunt.. because Witch’s are Biologically Born Female Divine P**sy.. so its obvious he is Tracking them (Ba’al erases invisibility veils). :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

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