Trying to find more information on a certain type of energy felt in the astral. This happened in a certain part I call the dark world as it is always night and lights don’t function (though everything is visible). It is strong like gravity and feels like it’s both weight and restrictive. Have noticed before when meeting greater entities this same feeling, but in the dark astral it seems almost oppressive.
I have had this experience multiple times, but last night it was slightly different. In a couple ways. First, the further I moved in it the stronger it became. To the point near the end I was comically forcing my leg up and down with sheer willpower to move another step. The other times might of been the same, but this time I made it further and maybe just realized the correlation. Second, I closed my eyes and saw the dark ripples like water behind my eyelids. Usually see this before projecting as a precursor, but have also never closed my eyes in the astral before so unsure? Third, by closing my eyes and feeling the energy, it seemed to momentarily lessen its effects. Is this an energy thing or just relaxing a bit, i don’t know. Lastly, I called out to someone while there, but there was no sound. Usually in the astral my voice vibrates out of me, and to some extent, so do the voices of other entities. There was none of that in this place. Only silence.
Does anyone know this place or process? Trying to get better at Astral Projecting, but it is still a crap shoot as to how it goes and where i end up.
I don’t know if the same place, probably not, but the place I go to as my starting point in doing astral work is what I call “the dark place”. It’s like you described in that it’s dark, there’s no light source, and it doesn’t matter you can see anyway. But there’s nothing, just black. Stuff and beings can be called there or show up, usually connected to my psyche and representations of how I feel about or interpret people and situations in my life.
Studying them can be very informative but are still subject to the usual issues with interpreting subconscious impressions. (Like me thinking Uriel was showing up for a couple of years only to realize eventually that was an aspect of me all along, I don’t know Uriel and never met it.)
There’s no issue with gravity though, I haven’t experienced that. But the whole thing where it’s hard to translate human physical body stuff happens for me - I actually don’t try to walk (and definitely not run, the more physical the harder). I figure my “legs” aren’t real they’re a memory, I just think of where I want to be and I’m already there.
A lot of times, when I project now, I just kinda move by thought. Want to go somewhere, I am there. Want to go up, I float up. Other times like this when the vibes are strong I just walk like I normally would. Don’t know if this is because of the situation I can’t do the other things or if because I am aware of the extra pressure and feelings that my mind isn’t as free to allow me to do the other.
As per the look, the astral has a lot of different variations for me. What seems to hold, though, is that what ever version I start in seems to remain consistent for the trip. They don’t or haven’t switched between versions as of yet.
Last nights trip is just really in my mind from the stark differences to the others recently. Not just the feeling, but the complete silence. I had kinda gotten used to hearing the underground sound or slight wind in my head and voice vibrations.
I have had your “Uriel” experience in lucids before. I meet an entity and by their look or other factors I have an idea of whom they are. A lot have been one offs though, so never get the chance to find the answer (yet). More of just wonderment at the experiences themselves
Yeah, it’s massive, probably infinite. The dark place is my personal starting place, but elsewhere there’s my astral temples and such, there’s copies of Earth in various versions. there’s places from fiction and games, there’s a million kinds of hells and heavens, river styxes, all the underworlds from every philosophy, which count as fictions imo, there’s off planet places out to the edge of the universe and beyond - if you can touch it with your mind, it’s in the astral, shared or otherwise. And you can make new places at will.
I don’t think it even had a map really, you have to create one to force some structure to it to sty oriented. But since you can go anywhere the route doesn’t really matter.
The grimdark of Warhammer exists in the astral, that thought scares me more than any lovecraftian cosmic horror concept.
You were on the Border… an “interstitial layer” between The Void/Abyss/A Veil of the destination you were trying to visit. Basically, either you were intentionally trying to visit someones space or you were unconsciously wandering in to it unaware of where you were traveling. The Astral isn’t completely empty, but you cannot just see everything; your never truly alone.
When you Travel to someone elses zone, especially if its a space they truly rule, sometimes the Astral Rule of Law/Physics may be different in that environment… think of this for example like the backend programming of an Operating System in Computers, you basically walked into a different O.S. … That Oppressive Heaviness is you attempting to move through the “interstitial layer” (Void/Abyss/Veil).
You brought Your Own Rules of Light (False Light), into someone elses space and either intentionally or unknowingly tried to “over-write” it with your own. This is the consequence of what happens when attempting to Super-Impose your own rules onto another individual/system. The Heaviness and oppression is their own “System Rules” in compressed energetic form.
Void - The place of creation in its Raw Form. Pure Blackness
Abyss - Sort of like an Outer Wilderness. In practical terms of System Matrices (Astral Domains you visit) it is the rubble of systems being dumped, destroyed, in disrepair, etc. This is normally where you will find “outlaw” sentient type programs/entities.
Veil - that layer seperating a Matrix Reality from the one you are coming from to a different one you are visiting. The fact you felt “resistance” is a sign of hitting a Veil Wall.
Water Ripple - You are entering a place that is undergoing some sort of Reconstruction… Water Ripple is a sign of being between Void/Abyss… The Water is an “initial” matrix structure built in a Void Domain.
Closing Eyes - this is a sign that you initially entered a partial state of “submission.” Meaning, you attempted knowingly or unknowingly to Harmonically Resonate with the domain you were entering. Thats why closing the eyes lessened the effects.
Silence - You were entering a place of Reconstruction… if you have been to this place multiple times, the inability to hear sound was probably somehow related to the Idealogy/Astral Programming Rules (type of energy/intent you entered with) you brought with you. In other words, you did not fully harmonize with the Ruler of that Domain.
Darkness - Darkness is Light turned Inward… meaning psychically your ability to see with the Inner Eye. Compressed Darkness is a specific space of a Matrix Location/Astral Domain (infrastructure). When you harmonize with such a location… you begin to See Actual light… its the tuning of Psychic Senses to harmonize with that location, where Darkness begins to be percieved as “Light.” In other words, its your ability to have shared VISION with the Ruler of that Domain, as you can see what s/he sees as their darkness is more percievable to not look like Darkness.
A lot of interesting ideas though, I have thought since about trying to automatically attune to the energy when I encounter it next time to see what effect it has.
I wonder how to avoid this if scenario if I’m on random. I don’t mean harm to anyone, but that could be easily misconstrued on a random pop up. I have asked permission before entering doors in the past, but again doesn’t help if the start point is the other side.
How do you cross from the border area to a desired location?