Is it possible to do anything else to get another person’s love and desire if you’ve already tried all sorts of rituals; sold everything you had, what you were, and what was somehow connected to you to the dark forces?
I am absolutely not interested in listening to another nonsense about self-development, improvement of my social, material and physiological condition. All this is meaningless without the love of one particular person, no matter how many opportunities, riches, and other things I have.
This is the third year of my suffering. This is not life, but garbage, filled with torments that you cannot get rid of. So if anyone here can help me in any way with getting the love of one particular person, I will be very grateful to you.
And don’t tell me that emotional involvement in achieving a result soon cancels magic. I will ignore such answers.
PS: I have worked with all known demons; Greek, Sumerian, Egyptian, Slavic, Scandinavian, and Jewish pantheons of gods. Tiamat, the Qliphoth and Sephiroth Trees, the Abyss itself in its various layers of immersion. Partly Zoroastrian deities.
I’ve never cast a love spell, so I might not be the right person to answer this. But from my experience, the fact that you’ve tried so much, and given so much, and faced zero results seems telling of a sort of blockage. Perhaps this person is protected somehow? They may have something on their side that’s preventing them from falling victim to love spells. Either that, or it’s a matter of willpower?
Someone more experienced could probably tell you more, but that’s just my first impression.
I’ve been thinking about it. Even at the very beginning of the journey, I conducted rituals both with the help of demons or gods, and through my personal powers to completely cut off any power, the ability to resist or unconsciously / consciously conjure the victim of my influence. Every day, I strengthened these charms and destroyed more and more possible resistance options (over the course of 4-5 months).
A few months after that, I conducted separate rituals with gods and other entities, as well as through runic seals to remove any kind of protection forever, as well as to subjugate.
So I tried this scope.
Regarding willpower… I don’t think that my will, as a person who gave absolutely everything he could give to achieve a goal, would in any way yield to the will of someone who does not experience any lamentation and deprivation, living happily. But, again, this is my opinion.
Probably not. Assuming you performed the rituals effectively, from a place of seeing the manifest result not from a place of lack, even then love magick is the hardest to do.
The reason is, you have to fight against someone else’s free will, and it’s common or their will to be left alone is stronger than your will to get them. But there’s also a million things that can get in the way before you even get to that, and none of them are about the targets desire.
Fail to find out and address those blockers, and you’re wasting your time. Increasing desire doesn’t hep if the reason they aren’t responding has nothing to do with desire.
Well this isn’t “nonsense”, but it’s very obvious and generic. I would assume that in 3 years you’re already working on being physically and emotionally in line with the targets type.
It may be a good idea to set up a Plan B. Since this solution to your bein gin pain is failing, there are other solutions to consider. You can do magick on yourself to cut the cords, kill your desire and return to yourself. You could consider that at this point this pain has become parasitic, it’s eating you alive and that’s what you need to get rid of.
I use this to do that.
No, that’s kinda weird. There are many magickal techniques that rely on emotions. Some would say that you need emotions for all magick as they are integral to the work. Humans don’t even made decisions if they have no emotion. And would love magick even exist if you didn’t care?
In fact, if you browse our posts, many of them specifically tell you how to leverage emotion to move energy for magickal purposes.
So repeating the same activity expecting different results is crazy, don’t do that.
Imo you need to identify what’s going on on the targets side of things. How do they feel now? Do they even know you exist? Is there bad memories for any reason? Do you talk to them at all or are you blocked everywhere? … Basically what’s the gap that has to be crossed to move this person into feeling good about you?
Or to put it the other way, have you identified what the blockers are? Have you done any divination to see if entities of the targets side are protecting the target, if there’s another that s/he likes more, if s/he’s blocked phytologically somehow, if s/he’s far away and sees that as insurmountable, if you hurt them… all that kind of thing?
How well do you know this person to guess?
Remember love magick is baneful, and many targets automatically sense it as a psychic attack, realise you feel dangerous without even knowing why, and run away because you did a love spell. This is called “backfiring”.
We don’t know yet, but I think it’s wise to take a step back and do an analysis to figure out the why’s of the situation so you can address those specifically.
I’ve done this before. Chopped down, destroyed, cut, improved my living conditions. It didn’t work out - this dependence is unshakable. In front of her, any attempt I made to become independent and live on was fatally failing.
I do not know what it is. I forcibly cut this connection, and completely removed all the energies and images of a person, as well as everything that was ever connected with him. But it wouldn’t budge. Despite hundreds of attempts to change the situation and throw away traumatic experiences.
The working I had in mind has nothing to do with other’s living conditions, I don’t know what you mean by that.
if you follow the link you’ll get the gist.
You didn’t remove them them. This is what I mean about this kind of thing becoming parasitical - it comes back. read through the poppet spell., which takes a natural approach. Let it die gently and painlessly. Less fight and more allow it to pass. What you fight gets stronger as you believe it has strength to fight you back, and so it does.
The ritual with each individual entity was always performed by me on a one-time basis, if it concerned the same issue. I somehow intuitively felt that repetition would lead to the defeat of the structure of my magical “grid”, the structure thanks to which I generally exist in the form of energy and can somehow direct it somewhere with different power.
This person is probably disgusted with me or something. We had a very emotionally problematic relationship in the past based on my unrequited love for him and his affection for me. Now I’m a “mistake” for him, and I should never have had any contact with him.
I would feel the same way if I were him. But… I simply cannot destroy my feelings or remove this pain of the unattainability of his figure, the lack of reciprocity of my feelings. I have long since stopped worrying about moral and ethical issues for this reason. But I understand his attitude towards me. We do not communicate, because he is not interested in communicating with me, because he believes that I used him, although this is absolute nonsense.
Yeah, it’s sounds like you’re beating your head against a brick wall. I still think you want to look up and around and figure a way around it, or how to dismantle it, brick by brick if necessary.
Have a think about what the target wants, and why, and how you fit into that. How do you fit their needs? How do you let them know that? Wat what else is acting as this brick wall in the way.
I’ve been trying to figure it out, but it’s something beyond my comprehension. Something metaphysical. Despite the fact that I have a solid foundation in magical and mythological theory…
I’ve done all kinds of things. Both soft and hard, indirect and direct impacts. A whole kaleidoscope of the magical spectrum. Of course, I also carried out a logical and semantic analysis of everything carefully every time.
This is a translator’s mistake. I meant that I changed the conditions of my life, its benefits and privileges in every possible way. And it worked. 80%, so to speak.
But internally it couldn’t change anything in me. All these benefits had no effect on the fullness of the meaning of life and the hole that is constantly expanding from the lack of reciprocation of my love feelings.
The problem is that I don’t believe this person has even a shred of strength or protection to fight back against me.
All this time, I’ve been letting all my feelings fade away, but at some point they just became the fundamental foundations of my personality. No amount of magic or psychological work helped them get through or at least weaken.
I know it sounds like a tough love spell, but, firstly, that person would not have needed to cast a spell on me in life, and secondly, I cleansed myself as strongly and variably as possible from any magical and social influence, but this did not free me from these feelings.
Unfortunately, I don’t fit into the comfort and satisfaction of this person at all, which was the reason to use magic as an instrument of forced submission and drumming love feelings into the victim. Feelings that would feel like they were fully sincere to the victim, not forced.
Such a concept consumed too much energy to realize the impact, but it did not give any result.
I mean I’ve felt this pain and it’s why I built that poppet ritual, and it’s worked every time I’ve used it since. It relies on no sprit but yourself, and pull on the ability of nature to heal and dissolve the relationship itself. But it won’t work if you don’t want it to, you have to be ready to let it do it’s work. It’s kitchen witchery, powerful but not forceful.
Another thing to consider at this point, is all this work is in itself keeping it alive. And you may also have to hexbreak yourself. Love magick often has a thing called “backlash”, where the spell bounces back off the target (from even as simple as “don’t wanna”) and hit you instead, making you more in love and more obsessed.
There’s also a lot of energy flowing around hitting nowhere and the first place it has to go find a home is you.
In this case in addition to the poppet, also run hexbreaks on the spells you did.
If you’re going that route I think you have to pick one or the other and stick to it. Mixed feeling mix up the intention and weakens all the workings so you want to commit to one path.
Re: blockers
Sometimes ancestors or other guardian spirits are involved. Because this counts as an attack they automatically step in to protect their loved one.
But you also said
So that’s huge. He can totally still love and want you, but have the self discipline to not go there assuming it would only lead to more fighting and pain. That’s a logical choice on his part, and the only way around that is to persuade him you’ve changed, and that he can learn to trust you again and the fights wouldn’t ever happen again, so he can logically choose to try again.
And/or maybe you were the “anxious attacher” type and that repelled him as it was too much.
Trust once lost is usually gone for good, sadly. I assume you’ve tried Paimon and similar for persuasion that you can be trusted and you’ve mellowed in time? But this seems the main blocker.
That does pass, but it can take years. When I was young I fell so hard, when it failed I cried every day for a year, and was still crying occasionally 5 years later. After 15 years it finally wore off. But that was with zero magickal help. If I knew then the things I knew now I’m sure I could have shortened it by several years. Point being, it will pass even if you didn’t want it to. It’s part of how adaptable humans are.
I’ll not love with that abandon again as it’s clearly unsafe, but a broken heart mends back very strong. So there is that.
Yes, I realized in the process that it is possible to absorb free energy from space, as well as absorb energy by sucking it out of other living organisms.
This has produced tremendous results, but alas, not in the field of love magic.
Yes, Paimon is just a wonderful companion. He helped me a lot in society. But his impact on this person was “corroded”, as if something had distorted him from the outside.
That’s interesting. Not everybody lives authentically, a thing that took me years to realize. Some of them create a fantasy adjacent to who they actually are, out of insecurity or childhood trauma/ptsd of some kind usually, and so the person you think you’re dealing with, doesn’t really exist.
In this case doing magick on the fictional character does slip sideways, because it’s trying to change a decoy not the original. I wonder if something like that is going on?
I think the same way. But this is not the case. There’s something wrong here. Either I’ll get what i want to get, or I will be completely erased by what I oppose, wanting to subdue and inspire love for a particular person.
