Sweeten Honey Jar as a Torture Device?

I will certainly keep that in mind.

Something just occurred to me. Something quite devious I must admit. Not sure if it’s my idea or not as i’ve been talking to King Paimon and Duke Dantalion a lot lately.

First I think i want to start off with him just obsessing with wanting to talk to me. I really don’t want to mess with his emotions (at least not right now) but a desperation to talk to me would be quite nice. Again, him seeing how it feels to be ignored or have someone be quite “short” with you.

Now… the reason he is so reserved talking to me, is that bitch he lives with (ex wife/wife whatever she is to him). I know he is concerned with her finding out if he is talking to me. I’ve known her pretty much as long as him. So she is not exactly a stranger to me either. I fucking hate her with everything in me i will make that very clear. Anything bad to happen to her would actually bring me joy. She took someone I loved and treated him like shit. And I do know that he hates her as well. Only reason he is still there with her is she would destroy him financially. “Cheaper to keep her”. This is why we don’t speak. If he does/did have feelings for me, and if she knows this on any level then yeah it would be ugly.

I thought of making an obsession jar for her too. Only to make her desperate to leave him. For him to bear no hardship whatsoever as a result but for her to just want to leave and move away from the home more than anything. With no harm coming to either of them (not that I really care to do her any favors) I know by getting rid of her that way… my door opens quite a bit. Actually the “door” bursts into flames.

Thoughts??

Eh personally in your situation i would likely hex um both and walk away. If someone actually manages to piss me off to where i am pondering curses i tend to use a mix of ruin,mayhem, dismay, poverty and life to various degrees.
The last is one of the more crueller twists i use in this type of curse for the simple fact that the universe twists itself about to prevent the target from being able to take their own life even if they desire or attempt to.

I am a generally nice guy who has a fuse that could span the wall of china bit there is a volcano of sadism at the end of it.

From what you describe of the guy he doesn’t seem to have much willpower or drive if he is opting to stick with someone just cause it’s cheaper instead of freeing himself if that is the case. Ya may be better off just doing your rituals as a form of purge and moving on to better possibilities.

Ya know. You’re right. I agree wholeheartly. I really do. He is a coward. As much as I do love him. He is 100%.

Her? I would love to stand by and just watch her get horsewhipped over and over. I vehemently hate her. A curse on her would be the simplest things in the world.

Im the same way. When I get angry people close to me get scared. Because its so rare anyone sees me that way. The thing is if she is gone. It makes it easier to get to him. I am not by any means sparing him anything. But he was a great man till she ruined him. I knew him before he married her and now. So yeah I want get her first. This hatred has been brewing three decades.

I guess i want my revenge on both but I know if i split them up. Its much easier for me. Less energy because his is a tough nut to crack on his own right now and I now know why. Her being there and fear of her finding out he is talking to me. Bless him with her gone and no hardship to him and then his turn. I just need to get her to move out of the home. Fast.

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See the way this reads to me is it sounds like he was always a coward just decent at hiding it if he is allowing himself to be in a situation he doesn’t want to be in simply because it would be temporarily costly to extract himself from the drama. That or he is self destructive and is seeking it out. Either way it is not a very strong sense of self or of ones character.

I’ve been there, i got the hell out before i was so drained i would have snapped and dealt with the higher bills short term. The minimized stress levels were worth it. Especially when ya don’t feel like a damn zombie all the time

Being brutally honest. Yeah I think your right. I know he stayed in the relationship because she got pregnant. And did so literally to save her marriage. We came to a point in the mid 90s where I really do think he was going to choose me. We were outside, alone and talking in a park the night before my friend/his sister got married. I really think he went there with the intention of “being with me”. Nothing ended up happening and he would not say why when I asked recently just “that was a different time”. He also said that “somethings you figure out later in life”. I didn’t ask him to elaborate and he likely would not have anyways (and this was all said before we met up last December). Sounds to me like he recently realized that he really does love me. Does not excuse anything especially recent events!! I just dont understand why he pushed me away so many times (hell he did it again to be fair). I would never fully trust him with my heart and uproot my life for him. I would love to be friends but that is it regardless of how I feel about him. But I do want a measure of revenge and and to get a taste of what he has done to me.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned lol

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Might find some use here for your process- and you might not. But just in case figured I’d link it over for you

Thank you!! Very helpful indeed.

Ive begun a domination jar for the bitch in question. Ive decided to get to the “goods” i have to remove a layer. He is too hard to reach due to his paranoia of her being there to really reach out and speak to me (We used to talk fairly easily but im not sure if she found out he was talking to me or not. Ah well, Time to for her to go). A recent Tarot reading showed that he was happy when I messaged him last weekend but is reluctant to write back out of “fear”. So im just gonna make things a bit more cozy, get that bitch out of the way so i can proceed with the other jar for him. Where she is concerned this is a long time coming. Im going to enjoy this!!!

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My jar is done and ready. I will be charging with the candle it tomorrow. Tuesday is Mars day and while I usually don’t pay much mind to days and hours im going to make a point of it tomorrow and for this spell. I really want to do all i can on this one. I’m quite pleased with it. Never made one before and the intention was very easy to add to it. I meant every word I spoke to it.

Now just to sit back and wait to hear the “good news”. And i’m sure I will either from his other sister or our niece. Looking forward to it. I’ve told myself even though it’s not charged. She is already thinking about it!!!

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Ohhhhhhhhhhh I may be on someones radar. LOL Not that I care.

I did a Tarot spread just now. On her. Wanted to check and see if I can get any insight on whats up (as im finishing her special jar tomorrow). I asked about her and him. If there was an “issue”??

I got the Ace of Wands and High Priestess. Ok fine but… But when looking at her card I learn she is a Cancer, a water sign and her number is 2.

Ummmmm That is me 100%. I was born on the 2nd. I am a Cancer. It also says she stands for hidden secrets (we were talking and met for a moment in Dec). If this is so then my last reading on him makes some sense (It said he was happy to hear from me but reluctant to respond back to me). Holy shit lol…

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My jar is done and outside being charged by Lilith and Venus. If anyone has some energy to throw my way that would be great. This is a final attempt and his will is ridiculously strong. I really want a bit of payback on his ass right now. I’m pretty ticked at him. Thanks!!

Last night had an odd dream. Don’t remember much however I did see a feather trapped inside a closed jar.

Interesting. What color was the feather? A cursory search shows feathers tend to relate to freedom- being trapped in a jar sure could certainly show you’ve inhibited their freedom.

I wanna say it was white at the end (quill) and gray on the tip part.

I think this is starting to turn into a journal at this point lol

Last night asked King Paimon or my Bestie to give me a sign as to what I should do in regards to my spell.

Well, I dreamed that Jerry, George and Elaine from Seinfeld was in a car and I was like on the hood looking inside. Elaine was in the back seat in the middle and said “Keep on the straight path” So I guess I will keep doing what ive been doing.

King Paimon a fan of Seinfeld lol??? My friend wasn’t lol.

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lovely title thread. Sweeten Honey Jar. Winnie the Pooh would not see it as a torture device. =o)

He would not…indeed lol

But “someone” is suffering if what I am sensing is 100% true. He’s not a happy camper right now lol.

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Look, he’s clearly not interested - maybe do yourself a favour and move on? He’s doing nothing wrong, it’s natural to cut off contact when you need to distance yourself from someone. He has a right to do that. It’s not being mean, it’s clearly what feels right to him.

Just write a letter, be honest and tell him what’s on your mind, even if it’s ugly. Burn it then forget about him. That way, you’re not suffering. To be fair, he isn’t the cause of your suffering. The ugly emotions you’re holding onto is what causes your suffering.

With all due respect. Yeah he is. That much I do know. I have moved on honestly. It does hurt but i’m good. Not like im lying in bed eating myself to death. We were talking just fine until Feb? perhaps. We saw each other in December. Again yes he is interested. He went out of his way to message me and seek me out (for no reason whatsoever) and has done it way more than once in the 35 years ive known him. He even told me yes he has been interested in me our whole lives (well the time that we have known each other and that was when we were teens). He draws me in and pushes me away. More than once he has done this. And when I wrote to him in March I laid it all out. I never once let him know in anyway before that point that i loved him. He kissed me once 25 years ago. Not the other way around. He asked what i wanted from him (mind you I never let him know i even liked him that way) I gave the worst answer possible and did not see him again until 12’ when my friend/his sister passed. Again when out of his way to lead me out of the room so we could talk for a bit. “Left” again until last year when he messaged me out of the blue for no reason at all. Saw him in December and then in March got the feeling he didnt want to talk for whatever reason (well I know the reason …) and I sent him a letter and told him everything there was to tell. I opened up my heart knowing what would happen. Told him I was blocking him (and did for three days) and that was that. I contacted him once to tell him Happy Birthday in late May and have not said anything else to him period.

Actually he has done wrong. To me and he knows it. And I called him on it. He can do what he wants. I told him I never asked anything from him. And I had many chances. I respected his choice (one that he came to vehemently regret as he told me he HATES his wife. And he does).

I want to forget all this. I’m actually starting to hate his ass but im human and kind of slide off kilter a bit, but im in no contact and im actually fine with that. I just wish my dreams and “he” would leave me be. I would love it honestly but he is my soulmate and twin flame. And he is coming into my dreams. He is the cause of my “suffering”. He starts this shit and then pushes back. All I want is for him to see what he has done to me. And i guess it’s working. He knows how he truly feels about me but fears im going to hurt him. His wife really did a number on him. I grew up around him, spent nights at his home. We know each other very well. Yeah she fucked him up. He made the choice yes. Im not trying to sound conceited but he chose wrong and knows it. In his own way admitted it too last year, Damage done yes.

I do appreciate your insight but you dont know the backstory and history between him and I, so you’re not exactly 100% correct in your comments. I do appreciate what your saying but yeah he is the instigator here. Im just getting a bit payback. Maybe im getting some backlash as a result but if he is seeing how he has treated me??? Im good with that.

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Yet, you’re the only one who can forgive him and free YOURSELF from the suffering.

It’s a choice and it’s YOUR choice. He can’t make it for you. He can’t make you forgive him. You have to want to. And when you genuinely want to, you’ll find it very easy to forgive him and let it go.

I am working on that. Suffering is a strong word. Im pissed yes. Vengeful, yeah I suppose. I feel like he has a “We’'ll talk only when I want to. Even though I always seek you out when i’m good and ready to.” Uh not anymore you wont. Like I said im not really liking him right now and the jar has become more of a “whatever”. I mean im not getting rid of it and whatever might be working right now. But I really dont care too much now. Like when you do something or go somewhere and you’re really not caring if you like it or not. You’re just curious. Kind of like that now.

Honestly i’m just more curious as to whether im getting signs and if these dreams and readings are truly related. I have always gotten messages via dreams. And im psychic in that way. I speak/see to my bestie all the time and see the dead all the time in that realm. So now in relation with him im just curious to know if this is what is going on (messages). Ive asked King Paimon for signs. More of, is King Paimon hearing me and letting me know. And am i getting better with my Tarot?? I do like knowing if im getting stronger in those areas.

He and I dont even live in the same state so its not like im stalking him and what not. All I ever wanted was to at least be his friend. And I told him that. But I also said to him for some reason he is not capable of even doing that though he has made many attempts. Im over it. We’ve never had a fight in our entire lives. Im not starting one with him either. I know he is pissed at me for blocking him and not giving him a chance to defend himself. That much I know and yeah i deserve it in that respect. It was kind of shitty on my part. I just don’t want him starting anything up with me again (because ive already decided if he ever contacts me again I will not respond. And that is where most of this jar comes into play. I’ll let him out when he’s had enough). Sad thing is … I know its just a matter of time before he does again. Could be months or years but his own history proves he does not stay away forever. I just hope that when he does I can stand my ground and hold my word (not respond).

Hope this makes all this a bit more “clear”. But im ok. I just need to try and dislike him right now so I can have some breathing room. Mean as it sounds it does help.