Spirits and spiritual planes

Sounds like a personal opinion, but it’s not borne out in the experience of myself or the people on this forum.

Remember that Goetic spirits are a mixed bunch including gods and angels, with the only think they have in common being religious propaganda from a very specific group, that doesn’t limit them in any way. It does limit your thinking if you let it.

  1. There no reason an entity needs “access to the Devachian, spiritual and mental plane” to do this kind of work.
  2. There’s no reason for you to even have these planes in your model of the universe
  3. There’s no reason any of the Goetic entities wouldn’t have access for this work; I’m pretty sure they do, as they are human explanations for wrap our minds around, not exactly what’s “real”.
  4. The one that’s really doing the magick, is the operator, he’s the one that gives permissions and access, if needed, he is the portal, the beginning and the end, so if this fails, it’s because the operator failed not the spirit he chose.

Zepar is good, Sitri, Paimon, Asmoday, Amon… we have posts on here with people thanking spirits for successful love spells, and I’ve never heard this be an issue.
E.A. Koetting has multiple experiences and a book out about love magick, based on years of successful workings. Maybe read around the subject a bit more before taking one dude’s biases on board.

I don’t think you should take our word for it though… but I would say be super careful of the doubters and the naysayers. Never limit yourself based on what doesn’t work for other people… they are not you, and the one thing that will kill your magick the fastest is doubt. If you think it won’t work, that is the same as doing magick against your own working, and you reduce or negate your results. Don’t listen to people who try to tell you what to think, try it and see for yourself.

From the Notables megathreead:

You can read some stunning success stories in this location and a massive list of thanks here.

For me, I don’t do love spells, but I am this week for out MFWB group, and I’m calling some of those listed above, all Goetic. I have zero doubt that this will manifest, because it already did, I can see it, we just have to wait for the timeline to catch up :slight_smile:

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