Power Sensing - Scans & Swaps 3.0 (No Tarot Please) (Part 1)

I think they did try via the flagging. The rule making I guess was like a last effort to get people to follow rules since the previous probably didn’t totally stop people from doing so.

But then again, I wasn’t here then. So I really don’t know.

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That’s starting to make more sense.

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On the note of 90 days the one guys started Jun 22, so that’s a no go :confused:

Who?

Bardir? I think that’s his name?
The one who wanted to use runes.

Scanning is a lot less in depth than tarot reading for one thing, and since it is basically intuition based, most people take it with a heavy dose of salt. This is also why new members are allowed to participate. Readings with Tarot, or runes, are taken more seriously (not sure why, but they tend to be).

Plus, tarot is off topic.This is, after all, a scanning thread, not a divination or reading thread lol

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I probably outta keep track of the 90 day rule myself. Not for me, but I tend to forget the exact specifics and who should or shouldn’t be doing something.

I’ve found tarot and scanning to be equally reliable. Scanning is more open ended and not as restricted as tarot. But you have to have some experience. Or nada. And experience is subjective too. But even how people interpret tarot is subjective.

Just look at their profile and see when they joined. Also keep in mind, that a member can attain Regular status within 50 days if they hit all the metrics, but they are still restricted by the 90 day rule for readings.

Gahh gonna have to do math :slightly_frowning_face: sigh. Jk. Thanks. Oh wait that’s just 3 moths.

I know things per @Lady_Eva are not up for debate, but I disagree with that. I have had “scans” (it’s really clairvoyance at the end of the day) just as in depth as a tarot reading or a rune reading. It’s no different than a scrying session, which if it were offered, would be rulebooked within seconds in regards to the 90 day rule, so I don’t entirely see why a new person should be able to participate in these kinds of threads but not any other form of divination at that point. If we’re going to hold them to 90 days we should probably be firm about it in that regard, in my opinion.

As for being on topic that’s a different beast that I won’t get into.

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Having no tarot in open threads like this also prevents professional readers from joining and trolling for customers. We’ve had a few of them try that before.

I don’t either, but I cannot remember what Eva gave for her reasoning behind letting new members participate in the scanning threads.

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Now that I understand.

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Good point.

Scans in this thread are conditional on being shared openly, that’s one big thing - this thread is ideally for swaps, and not the dynamic of one person being the querent, where the other is an all-wise service provider. That helps deter would-be spammers.

Second, it’s easier to make a complex feast of a Tarot reading, using weird technical terms or even faking cards, and offering to do a second reading via PM, which then lends itself to spammers, and even scammers.

Someone can easily pick out a bunch of Swords & The Tower, Death, etc., which are frightening just to see for many people. Scans don’t have that same shock and awe potential, which a scammer could then paylay into the old “Look at these cards! I see a curse is about to strike, you must pay me $200 for materials to stop it.” Etc.

Third, trying to police people’s impressions, or sharing what they sense or feel from a post or photos (equivalent to a “scan”), starts pushing moderation (including member-moderation) to bizarre places, and we can only expect people to take our rules seriously when they’re reasonable, and realistic.

We could end up jumping on someone who uses the word “scan” and ignoring someone who says"feeling" - that’s absurd. Moderation must be the art of the possible, and not enter Kafkaesque extremes.

Finally, this thread has so far not had any problems, whereas other free services did, so it’s messy “accomodate real life” concession which kind of overlays the rule (rather than being a perfect fit with it) in order to allow new members some route to test skills.

If this expanded to Tarot, we can just rip that rule up completely… whereas this nibbles a little into it, but in the method which is most accessible (no tools needed) and least damaging to the rule.

But if this thread ever becomes a problem, in a manner which repeats and cannot be handled any other way, it will most assuredly be nuked. Its survival so far suggests that’s unlikely, though. :smiley:

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Thanks, Eva :slight_smile:

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One other quick thing - ninety days is rule-of-thumb but in the wording, it’s actually a 3-month rule, date-to-date, that was specifically to stop it being complex:

So just check the date of joining, and then count three months, even if one is February or whatever. :+1:

Again, art of the possible. :slight_smile:

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True but I could just as easily “see” doom if I “wanted to”

So my question is does this apply to all new people?

Otherwise I get the idea a little more.

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Yes, but it wouldn’t have the same visceral impact on most people as a photo of a card layout full of Death & Towers that looks like disaster. :thinking:

The line’s drawn at allowing scans, but no other methods, because the grey area of someone replying and talking about what they feel and sense is not viable to “police.”

Art of the possible means not tying ourselves up in knots over what’s a reply based on gut feeling, what someone senses, and what’s a scan. It’s simpler and fairer just to allow scans as an exception, than trying to bring everything which could possibly constitute divination/scrying/psi perceptions, under the 3-month rule.

Yes, including Patrons & people who attain TL3 at the earliest date possible.

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Why not just make a rule that if you ask someone to PM after a tarot/rune reading like that you will get automatically banned. Making people wait 3 months before they can preform their scam only deters those with no patience and hinders those like me who just want to practice my art without the ridicule of people I have everyday contact with. I completely understand your reasoning I just fail to see how it’s the best solution.

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