i saw you pull out Ratschs encyclopedia of psychoactive plants in your brugmansia and datura video! I also enjoy Persephones path on insta.
Yah I reference it for the technical stuff that I donât always remember like the whole bevy of common or folk names. itâs super comprehensive, which I love.
Another thing of note I think you might find useful is many of poisonous plants are classified under the planet Saturn. I have found planetary correspondences useful when refining my personal harvesting practices, though i consider the moon as well.
You might enjoy this article regarding Saturn (and oh hey! its Saturday! )
www.patheos.com/blogs/poisonersapothecary/2019/01/23/saturnus-the-old-one/amp/
Hi Mithridates
How about the Greek god of medicine, Askelepios? Of course Hekate, someone mentioned Datura and speaking of, I wish I could give you some foxglove seeds⌠I have some pretty purple foxglove. But belladonna is sacred to Hekate too, and tomato, potatoes and eggplant are common enough and easily grown without raising an eyebrow. Oddly I have seen a bunch of Jimson weed lately and that is a common weed, Poke berry in the Southeast and Tobacco are deadly and so is oleander flower. Any and all poisonous plants are welcome in a Hekate garden. Medea and Kirke were her kin and her students. I apologize, I know I am repeating information, but I love poison plants myself.
Diogenes
No problem diogenes. I enjoy talking about these topics. I have decided to give myself into forming a necromancy / plant / poison path. Thank you for the information.
Youâre in great company! thank you for sharing and joining the topic! i will say for me I would never referred to jimson weed as a common weed out loud lol!! poor dear. i recognize its classification as such and penchant for spreading, and yet, how can we blame it, given its long history with mankind? why shouldnt it want to surround us?
Jimsonweed is considered a noxious weed in some areas where it grows wild.
Yes i know i just never say so out loud, definitely not in the garden. I only pay them compliments, encouragement and sing them songs (some taught to me). When tending these plants I have developed my own customs with regards to working with their spirits and not saying anything about their ânoxious weedâ status is one of them lol. Have you developed any with yours? I know you make preparations - do you grow them also?
Circe
Oh and jimson weed is so prettyâŚI hated having it used to dilate my eyes though. And I remember some of the high schoolers getting higher than two kites on jimson and morning glory seedsâŚdisrespectful children. But beautiful flowers, all of them.
And no, no, never out loud:).
Diogenes
Lol yes! I always tell mine how beautiful, magnificent and sacred they are, breathe in their scent and gush, THEN CHOP OFF THEIR HEADS WITH A BRONZE SICKLE!
And those pesky children!!! I honestly feel its the plants revenge - the bad trips - for misusing its sacred purpose.
Ah! A modern Greek love story! Euripides eat your heart out!
YesâŚone of them ended up in the ER with a 104 degree fever if memory servesâŚI have spoken to some of the area Shaman, and they only use the peyote and mescaline and jimson as an absolute last resort.
Lol! The plants have beautiful folklore honestly. Iâm particularly fond of the Huichol legends regarding the spirit of Kieri/Kieli, which include Datura Innoxia/Wrightii, Brugmansia spp.,and Solandra spp., (I currently grow a couple varieties of each). The truth about them is interesting the farther you go - but they were regarded as a plant for sorcerers, witches, âbad shamans.â Anthropologically speaking, the research suggests that the plants were originally the âprimaryâ god, but there was a migration to peyote(makes sense since it wont kill you), so the good shamans are âpeyoteros,â and the bad shamans work with Kieri. Theres a whole slew of legends about the spirits, and Kieri plays the violin and tries to cheat. But i really liked what i read that its really a story about how the gods of the old religion become the devils of the new. Where else do we see that?
Anyway, indigenous tribes of the Americas that interact with the plants all have their unique folklore and practices if they work with the plants at all.
Hiya OP! This thread is filled with good suggestions, but a missing one is Samael, literally âVenom of Godâ. Heâs the Patron of Poisons and Venoms, and can be found in all manifest flora and fauna possessing those traits. The other suggestions are more tangentially or inferentially related to the matter, whereas it is the forte of Samael!
Samael, Eir and Hekte are good candidates.
As many people mentioned above, healer Gods are naturally poison Gods too.
Just like vaccine makers know more about the virus than the virus itself, if you wish to cure someone from a Poison, you must know the cause and the effect of the poison. I believe there is no duality in this aspect.
There are others called the Poison of God(s), perhaps there is more than just the name to that.
Very interesting! Currently I have decided to follow the Egyptian pantheon and follow the old magick traditions from that pantheon such as knot magick and wax figure magick., but i will keep Samael in mind if i wish to work outside of the pantheon! could you provide more information on Samael as i will write down information on him for later. anything would be great. Thank you @Qayos
Heâs very secretive, so the best way to get information is to approach him yourself!