[Personal Note]Getting Along with Spirit

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9 Signs Is An Impostor (based on my own experience) + I'm feeling kinda hurt with Lucifer about it

Hi, so this time I came to share something. First, this is based on my experience and of some people who had the same experience, is not an absolutely truth, so if you experience any of those things and is still hundred percent sure you’re dealing with the real entity, that’s fine. For seven years this impostor have been in my life, I had suspected many times, but I was blind and it always managed to pull me back believing in it. This impostor is not weak, it can give things and huge signs, and not be banished easily. And according to what I heard it pretend be other entities too. With me, it impersonated Lucifer. To summarize I will simple say what now I feel is the red flags, at least when all together, that is the(or an) impostor and not the real deal: 1- It gives you everything and anything without you have to work for it. This impostor will make things easy for you, it will give things, without asking for offerings, without asking you to work to get. 2- This impostor doesn’t teach you anything. It will often say you already know all you need to know, it won’t push you to meditate or sometimes it will even get in the way of it. If you ask it to teach you something it won’t. It usually will come just to spend some time with you. 3- This impostor is obsessed with sex and sexual energy. This will be a little polemic, but again is based on my experience and of some other people I’ve talked to about who went through similar. And something we noticed is that this impo…

Goetic Evocation

Please understand that what us older magicians are trying to get across to folks here is not based on fear, but experience. Big difference. Unless you’ve physically SEEN and directly spoken to a spirit who appeared in the triangle, unless you’ve heard the thunderous explosions that often come with the ripping opening of the portal, unless you’ve experienced the fact that you need more than a single banishing to get rid of them, etc. (and I don’t mean in your imagination), then you still don’t understand the types of forces you’re dealing with. It is their very beings that are of a chaotic nature, and can be extremely dangerous to the untrained (or to those unwilling to admit they’re untrained). Again, this is not about fear, but about common sense. These are INFERNAL SPIRITS. No, they’re not usually “out to get you,” but the negative polarity of magic, the very real possibility of annihilation that’s part and parcel of infernal magick (which can be avoided) is a simple consequence of successful evocation to physical manifestation. I’ve personally lost two fellow magicians over the years who WERE successful at it, but who didn’t recognize the totality of the Art. Many folks here seem to consider imagination and scrying to be the same as evocation. It is not. It may work for the purposes that most people here seem to have, but if you’re talking evocation to physical manifestation, I have yet to meet more than two or three here who have actually accomplished it.

My whole alter is just got burned

Today the snake has accidentally come to our home And I just watched it and help my uncle to catch it up Then when After all that incident I came to my room My alter just catch fire I am feeling so sad rgt now Cause my lord Lucifer is half burn too It feels like someone burned my love

Spirit guides causing trauma

Honestly, it depends on the guide, but generally, spirit guides are said to be here to help your soul evolve. If they put obstacles in your way, it is because you are supposed to learn something from them to help you grow. I always find it funny , though, how black magicians will place blame on spirit guides for their lives going to pot, but will then turn around and lap it up if someone says Belial, Azazel, or Lucifer made their lives hell but they’re now stronger because of it. I agree with @UnseelieDiabolus Sometimes, shit happens. However, if you want to know if there is a spiritual cause, try divination.

Does magic really work? If it does why isn't it working for me?

Yep. Just another click bait title, but I’m actually going to try to answer this question today. I get this question in my email, my balg pms, even my shop messages get lit up from time to time with someone just wanting to know why magic doesn’t seem to work. The trouble is, it does work. It all works. I’ve spent a lot of time, in fact most of my actual embracing this life time, testing systems of magic. Reading grimoires, then working all the way through them. In many ways I think I’ve mastered Chaos Magic’s basics- adopt the mindset along with whatever else is needed to make the system work. Believe it as long as you are in that system then move on to the next. I’ve done this, often without even meaning to, simply to try something that sounded cool, or too good to be true or just because others were getting results with it. It all works. So, if divination, and soul retrieval journeys, astral projection, dream walking, evocation, invocation, Enochian, and all the different types of magic you can throw into a hat then randomly pick one and know that this system is going to work, how do we sometimes not get results? Well. But do you know what results are to begin with? I think we mess up here as beginners and even experienced magicians quite a bit. Ask my husband, I am the first to explain spiritual weirdness away as has to be mundane because bla blah blah. Can’t be that because blah blah blah. Could be coincidence because bla blah blah. But an over realistic mindset …

Who do spirits respond to faster and assuredly, ceremonial mages or demonalotors?

Yes @Nightside the question isn’t do they respond faster for ceremonial magicians or demonaltry practicioners but whose doing the asking. The skill and experience of the individual practicioner matters more than which system is used. After that I’d say the next most important factor would be who had the stronger relationship with a given spirit. That matters too.

Amy, Avnas, elusive great spirit

President Amy is a great spirit to work with. I’ve worked with him five or six times mostly on writing projects and he really helped tremendously. As far as not trusting easily I think alot of Goetic spirits are like that because of the amount of people that use them and dump them or fail to give them the agreed on rewards. On a side note it is my personal belief that the reason why newcomers to evocation get no results is because the spirit doesn’t know the person and doesn’t want to show up. That and failure to create a quality psychic connection with the spirit is probably the second most common reason. In north African culture about 1,000 years ago the introduction rites were practiced where a practicioner would formally introduce a spirit to another practicioner. This way the spirit knows who the practicioner is and that he comes recommended. I think it’s great your trying to cultivate a relationship with Amy he’s definitely worth it. Good luck.

Can I call spirits, or thank them, telepathically?

Intention is everything. In your situation you could easily write a letter to the spirit telling it what you wanted to know and make the spirits sigil or seal on the paper. If it were me I’d burn it, or tear it to pieces and let the wind have it. Real telepathic communication with spirits is quite possible, it helps to have a relationship with that spirit prior to trying to communicate with it However. In @Kindraathe thread on total immersion ( Id suggest everyone read this actually) he talks about focusing on a spirits of offices, legends, and seal for atleast a few days prior to standard evocation. This is because it helps establish a quality psychic connection between operator and spirit. Enns chanting also helps building that bridge between operator and spirit. By the time the actual working is started the spirit already knows you want to talk to it and it probably knows why also. Spirits are able to sense when we are thinking of them intently or brooding on them.

Which way do you write your requests to demons

This only matters if you are using a method, like Gordon Winterfield’s Demons of Magick, which recommends a specific way of phrasing. In regular evocation, it doesn’t matter. I simply tell the spirit what I want, usually phrased like, “As it is within your power, and as it is my will, I ask you to make Anna love me,” etc.