Now let’s be clear my view of shifting realities is very gray but I am fascinated and interested in what one could do. Like if those realities you shift to were already real or if you just make them. And if you can make it real after spending and bonding with the world and people around you in that world, and have your own happily ever after when your days are gone in this life.
Like if I maybe shifting realities into a Disney all stars world and I’m or at least give potential to have a relationship with a famous female Disney character that is way out of my lead, Like Cinderella. If I truly end up falling in love with her is it real on both ends or is it just the way I made her and she’s more like an ai, or if I become more attached to that world and the friends and maybe family I’ve made, is it just a sad pathetic fantasy I’ve made. Or is it real and true.
I’m asking this cause I’ve heard some really deep stories of this. And I thought that if was any website that could give me the best explanation is the one site that actually knows about the real supernatural.
I await and look forward to all the answers and stories you give me.
It’s basically a waking dream, similar to an astral journey. It doesn’t really exist, it’s all in your head, but it can feel real but only because you make it so.
I have found that a lot of the so-called “shifting” community is mostly just fantasy wish fulfillment and they don’t actually have any understanding of spiritual planes or how anything works. They lack a cohesive worldview or map, like those most occult systems have, so they just make stuff up as they go along whether it makes sense or not.
They’re real in the astral, which is the mental plane. They’re not in the physical, but those thoughtforms can persist and start to react independently. Most likely you would be creating your own thoughtforms in your own personal astral level not shared by others. Book authors find this, as they build their worlds and characters they start to have dreams where the characters give them ideas. Astral forms tend to be temporary and fade once the creator is no longer feeding energy into them via attention.
Your posts are very interesting. One on direction someone could have an entire happy life in that world they made which is never truly real, and in another it could have started being not real but then in time actually become real. But you could never truly know unless you’re experienced and an expert with the catagory of magick this belongs to.
However I would still love to hear other ideas and experiences with this😄
Yes, you might be interested in Hypersigils a la Grant Morrison. He told stories and wrote comics about writing and realised he manifested what he wrote in the comic.
There’s a lot of stuff like this which have become popular within the last ten years or so. Young people are looking for an escape from a potentially bleak future and so things like shifting offer them an alternative where they can live in their favourite fantasy world from books and movies. It’s basically a type of willed schizophrenia, where you make yourself believe that you are living another life separate from this one in your head. In magical practice, there is something similar that happens when a past life regression starts to bleed into the current life. When that happens, you can get the same effect of living two distinct lives.
There is another modern practice called tulpamancy where people literally splinter their consciousness into an alternate persona and then interact with it as if it was a separate being. Basically, you build a thoughtform inside your own head. It’s another form of willed mental illness and is kind of like having a cojoined twin, only it’s in your mind, not your body.
You know despite the good a bad of what I’m reading I’m almost encourages to try to experience the shifting thing just as an experiment to know how it feels.
But here’s the question, some say that they spent years in that world they’ve made and come back to the real world at the exact time they left. Is that true how does that even work. Cause that’s kinda scary to me. If you end up loving the world you made whether the place and people in it become there become real or not and you suddenly are brought back to the real world, it’s got to cause some mental scarring.
It’s all in their head so they can spend lifetimes inside their fantasy while time doesn’t really pass out here.
There’s an episode of Star Trek: TNG where the main character, Picard, is hit by a beam from an alien probe and he lives the life of a someone from an alien culture. 80 years pass for him as this person but when he comes back, nothing had changed in his actual reality. That lifetime that he lived was only a few minutes.
Okay I don’t fully understand what Mulberry said but if I ever try the shifting, there’s a way to actually make it real and not just like an ai chat app? Cause I do admit meeting my favorite fictional character actually come to life and talk to me, was what I always dreamed of, even if there from another plane of existence
A hallucination is real to the person experiencing it because it feels real so the key is sensory vividness. The mind doesn’t know the difference between real and imagined (which is the key to magical techniques like pathworking) so you have to make your DR (desired reality) as vivid as possible.
Oh cool so I with enough knowledge practice an experienced I could make myself a pocket dimension where I can send my consciousness to, like an immediate vacation spot.
But if I want to make people animals and history in it. That’s a whole new ball game.
I can work with that.
Still gonna try it the way others say just to know why they love it as an experiment, and if I love it I’ll train and practice so I can go back whenever I want, so it really be a free vacation.
There is another modern practice called tulpamancy where people literally splinter their consciousness into an alternate persona and then interact with it as if it was a separate being. Basically, you build a thoughtform inside your own head. It’s another form of willed mental illness and is kind of like having a cojoined twin, only it’s in your mind, not your body.
Been doing that since I was 6 (which is a long time XD). Never diagnosed with any mental illness, for that matter, my parents took great care to make sure I was just heavily fantasizing, but this developed my imaginative skills and self-dicsipline at the same time to the point when I can freely decide “where” I want to be and “when”. At the same time I am perfectly grounded and cold-realistic. I tell you, pathworking is great in my case
Love the concepts discussed here!
I’ve been use the hypersigil comic concept with pretty decent results so far.
Any advice on charging it? it will not be shared with others pretty private.
I read use the title of the comic and create a sigil or make a sigil for the characters.
now I feel really sorry for those folks who practical live their lives in them.
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