Hmm well anyways I think it would be cool if the same way people invoke and get possessed by most spirits, the same could be done with a personification of the astral plane.
Or any other personified plane of existence.
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I’m thinking similar to how a Daedric Prince from The Elder Scrolls is I guess a personification of their plane of Oblivion.
Hermaeus Mora is the personification of Apocrypha just like Molag Bal is Coldharbour.
Maybe something similar could happen to The Astral Plane,Etheric Plane, and or whatever other planes exist.
I would say that these are egregores and astral locations that you can find in the astral plane. They are fictions created by humans, and the astral plane represents the mind of man, aka the collective unconscious. So you can find them that way and work with them if you like, this is common in Chaos Magick:
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Well yes I know The Elder Scrolls is most likely completely fictional only…
And I know fictional things exist in The Astral Plane.
Thanks for the link.
That does sound like a fun movie idea. The thing is, even if you had people follow through some sort of ritual steps, there would be a lack of actual intention on their part. I would see that as a definite obstacle.
Having said that, you might be able to infuse it with something that work on them passively, but they wouldn’t be the caster so to speak. For example, you can infuse reiki into videos, paintings, audio recordings etc. Quite possible other energies could do the same. But again it would be a passive influence on them rather than something they were actively doing through their game play.
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Weird… I just replayed Morrowind last year. I remember those names but not the detail of the comparisons you’re making. May have to revisit it again 
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Hmm I see.
Actually how would I infuse energy into something?
I’m pretty sure energy flows to what you focus on… but how would you actually go about even making that energy stick to and fuse with the target?
Hermaeus Mora is the black and green amorphous god of tentacles, inhuman eyes, and the big wet library known as Apocrypha which you can enter through his black books.
Molag Bal is the daedric god of domination, torture, and eventually even vampires because he is the creator of vampirism in The Elder Scrolls.
His plane of oblivion is Coldharbour which you can witness in ESO after being murdered by a necromancer and becoming a Soul Shriven minus the physical deformity of the other Soul Shriven like Cadwell.
Molag Bal is also the one who turned Harkon into a Vampire Lord.
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@Ragepanda. On the subject of Elder Scrolls and the personified daedric planes,…
…I wonder if someone could design their own personal Astral Plane and become it’s personification by setting the intention that their personal plane is fused inside them.
Like imagine having infinite astral space permanently fused inside your astral body.
And then maybe do the same thing with the Etheric Body and whatever else we have.
I want to feel like a fusion between GOJO from JUJUTSU KAISEN and every daedric prince.
I know you’re talking completely hypothetically, but I thought you might appreciate an honest answer from someone who actually works in the game industry.
Been working as a game dev full time for 2 and half years, and am about to graduate with a degree in the same area.
Speaking from a legal point of view, including anything that will put the player into a trance is going to be extremely hard to publish and get past the ratings board. It would most likely end up banned in several countries.
(e.g. Cyberpunk 2077 had to change the way their braindances worked, originally on entering a BD the equipment would flash and it was causing seizures.)
I know seizures aren’t the same thing as a trance but to the non-magickal eye of publishers, they are pretty much the same thing.
So unless you are a self published indie dev (where your game wont get much reach unless you’re the next Concerned Ape), it probably would be shot down pretty quick.
As for VR, it’s definitely an interesting concept (especially with the road VR is heading down, haptic suits and all), and as cool as it would be to have a version which actually connected up to the players brainwaves, that starts to bring up a lot of shit with ethics and security and all that…
Now that I’m done pissing on your parade (sorry lol), I’ll talk about how I could actually see this happening!
Developing a game specifically aimed at magickal users with mechanics that trained things like their clairsenses (e.g. a tavern card game based on sensing the colour of the card), is something I could see working! (Not selling well lol, but it would work)
There have also been cases where kinects have picked up spirit activities, could probably use that combined with a radio feature to help a magician communicate with spirits.
Besides from that though, games like SecondLife and WoW already provide a platform for online covens and groups to meet (probably not practice through the game itself though).
Interesting concept anyway.
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Also side note - the thought of Molog Bal as an egregore is just… horrifying 
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Oh I see. Thanks.
I really do appreciate the information you gave me.
@sebastian
@sebastian “The thought of Molag Bal as an egregore is just… horrifying”.
Why and how is that?
Also surely he must be an egregore by now along with every other well known Elder Scrolls character.
@sebastian. What about a future where technology and especially AI is so advanced that spirits incarnate as or possess the NPCs of video games?
Like imagine talking to a self-aware and intelligent non-player-character in…say uh Skyrim Future Edition…
then you realize that NPC is actually the new body of an actual spirit you are familiar with.
@sebastian Well if Molag Bal as an egregore is terrifying,…then what about the Dovahkiin as a Vampire Lord or werewolf?
Or even some boss battle egregore from Bloodborne haunting someone’s house?
Well time to get high on insight and drunk on blood echoes, I guess.
Eat some Lovecraftian umbilical cords and ascend to greatness before my brain becomes a hot celestial pudding.
Well… one of his titles is literally ‘The King of Rape’… amongst other quite unpleasant things lol. So you can see why you wouldn’t really want that.
Imho I don’t think any of the ES characters are egregores. Not that it isn’t possible, I just don’t think it’s happened.
Wont say it’s entirely impossible in the future, but with what the industry is currently focusing on, it wouldn’t be any time soon.
It would be very cool though.
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Ah I see.
Surely The Elder Scrolls characters must be some kinda ThoughtForms by now though right?
How much time and attention from people would they need for that?
@sebastian
Aren’t egregores just ThoughtForms made from a large number of people instead of one or two magicians?
Or are egregores actually an insanely strong level of ThoughtForms?
Might also be interesting to see an egregore of Alucard/Dracula from Hellsing Ultimate…
and then see that Alucard egregore evolve past being any kind of ThoughtForm reaching the realm of actual true spirits.
Isn’t the physical plane and everything in it even including computer programs really just a super condensed part of The Astral Plane?
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