Whenever I try to work with demons, I get little results or very bizarre compare to angels. The angels gifts really dignifies me, I feel like yeah I am working with great spirits and they got my back but with the demons … I don’t understand if I am doing something wrong or just they don’t love me or I just don’t know. It’s so weird with them.
Each time I call Bune… the moment after I get plumbing issues
Belial seem to work fast but at the end I only get promises. For eg i asked him for a job a certain industry, out of nowhere i got a promise for someone to support my CV during selection but it’s only promises.
I asked him again to work for 2 foreigners consultant that would benefit my career, again out of nowhere I had meetings with those particularly people and then promises to collaborate more in the future but nothing tangible.
Lucifer energy destabilizes people. I will be talking with someone and really feel that he’s completely scared.
One of my colleague almost had a car accident because I was sitting in front with him and he couldn’t handle my energy. They seem to be also very powerful and very subtle and difficult to notice them or their results
Do you have any advice on how to work with demons.
I noticed that when infernal spirits follow you into the workplace unrestrained, (or any social setting) the behaviors of people change noticeably. This is because their astral presence actively affects peoples minds to act in certain ways that their energy favors. This is how the infernal spirits vampirize. Its not just astral vamping. It can be attention, social, sexual, willpower, etc.
I’ve noticed demons work on a more mental level first and physical second. (Sonce they are astral beings) So the most noticeable initial changes are gonna be in how you think and navigate life, as well as how people perceive you.
I think you are positively polarized or right-hand path as opposed to left-hand path or negative polarity in your spiritual evolution. You can watch Universal Mastery or Jeremiah Schwartz’s videos on that concept for a preferable explanation. A summary is the right-hand path or positive polarity being more sympathetic to angelic forces which are uplifting and benevolent, and they “rise” to find themselves spiritually. The left-hand path or negative polarity is sympathetic to demonic forces which are destructive. They devour false and unstable attachments for the true self to emerge. Many people remain enslaved to those attachments which is why a lot of people who are negatively polarized (not all) have greater familiarity with suffering and negatively polarized beings (demons) are often recognized as “evil.” They find themselves by embracing the darkness and transmuting it, and that is what demons can do for the left-hand path magician.
(I have seen a few of your posts before and you do give off the impression of someone who is right-hand path or positively polarized)
Regardless, LHP people contact angels and RHP people contact demons whenever they want to or need to.
Demons, unlike angels, have a destructive and vampiric energy field. I have noticed this even with the good or neutral ones. When working with demons, they tend to unravel all sorts of issues in your life by “illuminating” them or surfacing repressed traumas from your unconscious. I experience nightmares a lot from working with them, even when they are not “evil.”
You should not work with them if you do not feel resonance with them. Most people on the positive polarity may feel resonance with a few demons, and vice versa.
I had a period of 18 months some years ago where mostly the demons spirits were around me, at that time I didn’t even knew about astrology stuff to know the timing but that was the period where I was suddenly interested in black magic… I could easily feel and call the demon presence but it was the most disruptive period of my life, mentally I was lost. I did bad stuff, really bad things but I was becoming more popular, sexually strong, drinking, smoking etc… in only 18 months I did stuff I could not do in my entire existence.
Lucifer materialized to me only once and what he told me was a revelation I only understood 6 years later. I respect him for that.
Now in some years in future the demons are going to be present in life for 18 years, not months but years. I need to learn how to deal with these guys, otherwise they will consume me
It sounds like the entities get you the opportunities but your own energy is messing them up.
Entities do not follow you and baby you every step, they do expect you to follow through and make the opportunity work.
It’s not a good sign that sitting in a car you distracted the drive so much he nearly crashed and that’s nothing to do with entities, unless you were possessed, that’s you. You can work on that to bring in your ‘aura’ so it doesn’t interact so much with other humans and put them off.
But you have explained before you are connected to a magickal family line, I would then also suggest you check into any bindings on you through the ancestors who may want you to do something else.
I didn’t touch him, nor distract him. He seems lost, actually he was the one that looked possessed. I just notice that when I call Lucifer energy into my aura, people act weird when I am in front of them. Some get scared, some very confused or lost in their mind.
But I am always calm. I am reserved in nature.
So you are suggesting I should learn how to direct that energy to my aura?
Okay I will check if there’s any binding from my ancestors
I have had really awful experiences with demons too. Many people on this forum write endless praises to these demons without registering that someone else could summon that same exact demon to ruin their lives. Even good-natured ones like Marbas can be called upon to curse people.
Relationships with demons are transactional. If you do not “pay” them for fulfilling your request, they will take it from you. Demons differ from angels. They can grant you whatever you want. An angel will tell you, “you do not want this” or “it is wrong and will cause harm to yourself and someone else.” Some demons have the decency to warn you; they fulfill your request nonetheless. Angels grant you what is in “alignment” with source potential. Demons can grant you what is in alignment, but also what is not (and things which are not “aligned” are in the katabolic process of being removed from the universe… so “manifesting” them intentionally causes chaotic situations).
Demons are effectively bound by angels.
Invoking demons changes my aura too. It becomes darker and more “vampiric.” A lot of people do not seem to want to be around me.
Then you definitely don’t want to do that when in interviews or with people in general. If its a problem, stop it. And work on your shields so you can have energy and not messily overlap with other people’s energy so much - you’re the mage, not them, you should have better control.
I see you blaming every other entity but you’re the one in charge, take the control you need.
I am not blaming them @Mulberry i just did not understand how to work with them. They are different from angels. I don’t have such problems with angels
Communication is key as with any relationship. They’re not different than angelics in my experience - they’re the exact same beings only on the wrong end of the JCI political stick - talk to them and tell them if you identify one is putting it’s energy in places you don’t want.
You really do get what you expect in magick - look into you own inner energy and attitudes and how that interacts, homogenize them and your experience should homogenize too.
and angels seem to even babysit you. They follow you in each step and What I like about them is they deliver right away and with such dignity without asking anything in return. I just feel they are outstanding beings.
Perhaps I will see the same results with demons too as I haven’t really much worked with them.
AND I THINK I AM ALSO MISSING THE OPPORTUNITIES THE DEMONS GIVE ME
Not trying to be dualistic
Angels seem to encourage us to focus on transcending materialism and focusing on “spiritual treasures,” whereas demons can show us the value in embracing the material world (not necessarily the same as materialism… materialism is prioritizing the material over the spiritual whereas demons are showing us the hidden treasures of the material world). Of course a lot of people succumb to materialism.
There are two ways to work with demons - the traditional way, and the new age way. I’d recommend you invest in a magic circle like the Universal Circle and invoke them directly (the new age way).
To add a few of my views to the discussion.
(I’m trying to evade the whole RHP/ LHP terminology in this, because I think there’s starting to be too much dogma and misconception attached to them)
I’ve walked two types of paths and this is my very simplistic explanation on how people are attuned to different energies (or in some terms positively or negatively polarized)
Some people are more receptive to the more light and tranquil energy and are more able to develop their microcosm (through internal alchemy and self development etc.) to have that energy help them reach a higher vibration and find their divinity. Some people are more receptive to the more chaotic and darker energies and are more able to develop their microcosm (through self development and internal alchemy etc.) to be able to receive large amounts of that lower vibrational dark energy, learn transmute it to their benefit, find the divinity in that and learn to raise their vibration themselves.
Both paths lead to the same conclusion, true practitioners on those paths can be very powerful and enlightened. Both also have the same intensity of self development and/ or shadow work to go through in order to reach your potential. Just different ways to go about it.
If you are naturally more attuned to the more light and tranquil energy. You don’t really miss anything by not dealing with demons. As I am learning, if you are more “tranquility attuned” You might get some benefits from dealing with demons, but it’s not the type of energy you naturally use for your transformation and ascent so it’s not an energy you can fully use to your advantage anyway without it having a negative effect on your growth…
As a side discussion, I think Lucifer as a being of light and dark is an entity or energy current that might be able to be received on both sides. It takes completely different approaches though, as you would connect to completely different aspects.
As for the fact that people react different to you when working and influenced by demons…
One way the “chaotically attuned” go about their growth is to have the aspects and energy of these entities engulf them in order to point out and change chaotic (and inauthentic) aspects of themselves. This means if you choose to have a heavy connection and influence from these types of energies (or don’t ground yourself properly), your energy will have that same effect on people around you.
It’s not very comfortable to have those parts of your personality and ego disrupted, especially if you don’t wish to be confrontend by them or want to let go of them. That is at least part of the reason why people react weirdly or negatively to you when working heavily with demons.
