Friend in trouble with an experienced demonologist

Hey people, I have this friend who has a fast and brutal spiritual awakening. She has an ancestor who came directly to her since her awakening, and damn, this is no joke, she’s very gifted now ^^.
AND the interesting thing is that she already bounded with Lucifer. She really has something with him, it’s like he was somehow waiting for her. It’s too long to explain but the point is she’s not totally nacked and she’s gonna be a badass someday lol.

She’s nonetheless very uneducated on these subjects. So she started to join facebook groups and talk with different people to gather more informations about every path and point of views.

One of these groups, I know it very well. The owner is an anonymous woman profile, I already wanted to chat with her but I have this feeling in my gut that you better stay away from her, at my level at least.
She’s in goetia and rules a sect. Now, I don’t know much about the Goetic system but honestly she says things I never saw anywhere.
She started to talk with this woman, not knowing she has a sect and everything. She told her about her awakening, what she’s able to do, and her ancestor. The woman was clearly very interested in her, she showed it explicitely, and wanted to know more about my friend. She insisted to do her a reading by another woman (her mentor), it seems like she called her immediately while chatting with my friend. So my friend gave her birthday date. And here this other woman went : she guessed everything right, and my friend answered everything. I’m not sure she was comfortable enough to share with me all she told to these women. She just told me they have everything they could need to know, including the hour of her birth and everything she knows on her ancestor.
She told me she tried to read the woman but it was like hitting a wall. She wouldn’t see or feel anything, and she felt really bad at that moment, when she felt the gap. She felt these women were protected, not her, not at all, now they can do anything they want to her and she can’t even know their names.

She got attacked by something this night, I think I know what it is and I don’t think it’s linked to these women. But she’s scared she feels threatened and like a prey you know, she says “I’m nothing and she’s 46 years old she practiced her whole life with all her family if she does something I’m so screwed I would be a fucking rat” ect…
Sooo I don’t know either what I’m doing with that. I don’t know if I’m right, but I said "hey yes she certainly does have power but don’t sink yourself like that don’t give her more power than she has, pull yourself together and stand on your feet, be ready, for all we know of her theory and practice she misses plenty of real things it can retard her " ect…
I adviced her to rebound with her ancestor, and to keep bounding with Lucifer. He came for her this night when she needed. I tried to get her confident with this, like, girl, Lucifer answers to your calls without you even need to light a damn candle, last month you were a regular atheist and now you see and feel everything you need about people’s past/present/future just by thinking about it, you got Voodoo Mamma on your side since day 1 and Lucifer is right behind your back, you’re in the game since one month and you could kick any regular witch’s sorry ass if you wanted, so stand on your feet !

I really don’t think this woman is goddesslike, she’s scary for us because we’re unexperienced, she’s older and with people around her and the sect and the “3 generations” thing but… I don’t think it’s a fatality. To me, maybe I’m wrong and correct me if this path exists, but the fact she denies and doesn’t know the astral world and other plans, the out of bodies discipline, it demonstrates that she’s just learning in books and with grandpa’ what everyone before her learned. And I understood from what she told that she didn’t bound with any demon, in her whole “3 generations” and 46years old life, she never really worked with one, it seems they didn’t answer to her calls if she did any, as she thinks “they are gods they don’t answer to our calls why would they do that?” oO That’s odd to me. She showed jealousy about the Lucifer thing with my friend.
Yeah what I’m saying here is that she would be in greater trouble with one of you guys than she is with this woman lol. It’s not good but I don’t think it is THAT bad. Am I wrong ?

So, if these women decide to assault my friend.
What could be done ? And am I wrong on something about that ? I would appreciate to correct my bullshit if I said some.

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i dont believe you need to know the persons name or anything like that to curse them back. The best thing to do is create some self defense around her…perhaps with the help of archangel michael. If you guys arent sure these women are actually attacking her, its best to not go on the offensive…as you dont want to create needless enemies.

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Oh yeah we don’t plan to attack her, but it’s the right time to think better about a protection for herself tho before it’s too late ^^’.
Yeeees I thought about an archangel, didn’t remember which one was appropriate. Thank you !

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Me personally. I would put some armor on for fights with spirits. Create it with your imagination and then blow away any hostiles to smitherings with powerful ki blasts. And any move you make is extremely powerful. Able to devastate any opponent.

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Synchronicity is a head tripp :grin: gonna drop this here for ya.

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What sort of gifts does your friend have? The best course of action imo, is to sit your friend down and teach her some magick. Perhaps she should invoke lucifer and ask him for guidance, as well as, protection.

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I would agree with Verdo. As much as we all love Demonics here, Angels are stronger then they are and are built to keep them at bay and under command. I would tell her to call on the Archangels for protection.

Other good old witchcraft protections are to place salt in all of the corners of the house and underneath where she sleeps. Salt is a great way to keep her home protected from attacks.

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I see the theme of the month is defensive magick.

I agree with Verdo, now is the time to form a more static defense just in case it is not who you believe it is. If i read through this right, your friend has a connection with lucifer and someone familiar with voudou, I would suggest calling upon lucifer for protection, followed with a fiery wall of protection spell. (had to double check and make sure that wouldn’t direct the energy back, like verdo said, don’t want ot make any unnecessary enemies)

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On this one I do not think fighting fire with fire is a good option tbh. Although she has a good relationship with Lucifer, if the woman is into Goetia Magick, she will be using the same entities and it then becomes a battle of WILL, not a battle of which entity you call upon. Fighting fire with fire just makes a bigger fire, Fighting fire with water is in my opinion a better route in this case, because this girl is still very inexperienced. She has power that she doesn’t know what to do with.

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that is true, I suggested lucifer because since she’s fairly inexperienced i think it’s best she used any connection she already had. Calling the arch angels is probably the better option but will lack the natural connection for her.

One thing she can use to at least ground and redirect some of the attack is make a witch’s bottle. And you need to convince her that experience really isn’t everything on this path. Her belief that she can’t repell such attacks will create a thoughtform that will actively work against her

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It is possible to call on Angels and demons to work together. Maybe that is an option. I mean @boredomkill5 has a point as far as the existing connection. You could call on the Angel, she can call on Lucifer, and make them work together. Solomon the wise did just that.

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I agree with the above options. Tell them to invest in obsidian and black tourmaline. Charge and program them to protect them from negative magic and psychic attack. If they’re in voodoo, Gris Gris bags might help. Fiery wall. They can envision mirrors around them that reflect things back. If they can shapeshift, go into a phoenix state, burns away negative magic and energy.

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Love this… bringing back the old school witchcraft… Again, we dont get enough of this on the forum…I’ve been doing so much more witchcraft then evocations…

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Now this is where I insert my speech about “to be silent”. It is best to never hand out personal information when dealing with others. To be silent is there for this reason, as well as others.[quote=“Ethera, post:1, topic:17968”]
honestly she says things I never saw anywhere.
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What things? Perhaps what she says can decode her skill level.[quote=“Ethera, post:1, topic:17968”]
ancestor
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They need to contact them. Ancestral necromancy has a fail safe, which is that the ancestors will take on the brunt of any attack for the practitioner regardless of the reason of the attack, hence a reason I’m deep into death energy and necromancy, well kind of. [quote=“Rcs4215, post:13, topic:17968”]
bringing back the old school witchcraft… Again, we dont get enough of this on the forum…I’ve been doing so much more witchcraft
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Agreed. Old school witchcraft where the only power you call on is yourself.

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Okay…your friends experience sounds similar to mine. Lucifer has been waiting for me and been knocking on my “door” for a long time apparently. i’ve never evoked him or used candles either he just comes and goes as he pleases and offers to help me. The eventual goal of course is for me to learn enough to take care of myself. He has told me there will start to be more and more like me. There will be more and more that he will take under his wing as the world starts to wake up.

If your friend is powerful like that but doesnt have the knowledge to protect herself I understand. When i was in that situation Lucifer told me he would create a path for me and became my gatekeeper. He opened communication with different beings until i learned to work on my senses. Through this process it happened that the left hand path resonated with me and it was demons that I was most compatable with and they agreed to become my teachers in exchange for energy offerings.

Synchronicity again i was watching a Koetting video yesterday where he talks about what to do if you are afraid someone more experienced curses you. Although its important to know your stuff it also has to do with intent. When you attack someone you expend a lot of emotion and that is draining.It brings up everything you keep hidden from yourself.

If this woman has some big cult or whatever and gets jealous of some woman awakening than that makes her really pathetic doesn’t it? Her own insecurity and jealousy should start to collapse in on herself. Whatever protection she has will fail her and no spirit she has will take her seriously.

And your friend who believes in herself and is on the defensive will thrive and survive.

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More protection suggestions: connect to certain runes: algiz, thurisaz, etc. Also using Isa on them will keep them at Bay by “freezing” them. Draw them out, perform galdr, and carry them.
Ask Luci for a protective familiar.
Get to know the Norse Gods, they can help with protective magic
Witch jars

Big one: ward the house.

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Same here! I am glad I started paying attention to him. He is very helpful!

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Yeah ancestors too. I love my family. Keep altars for them with their favorite foods and items.

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Same here. seems like Lucifer has been “waiting on” and knocking on a lot of doors lately.

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I think you should be cautious but at the same time i wouldn’t throw the woman under the bus for being curious about another practitioner. So i think its one of them wait and see moments as you may be overreacting. As for the attack it could have mystically self inflicted also due to her panicing or regretting sharing with strangers.

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