For anyone with Asmoday experience

Spirits, Evocation & Possession
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For people who have interacted with Asmoday, does this sound like it really could have been him? I don’t want to interact with this entity again if it wasn’t Asmoday because it felt very dangerous to me.

Last night, I was trying to connect with Bael for a third time because I want to work with him on learning several things.

Bael wasn’t coming through but suddenly there was a very aggressive energy around me. It held me down and was pulling at me. I thought maybe I was blocked and Bael was trying to force me to break through that blockage to make a connection. But that also just didn’t feel right to me.

The entity began choking me aggressively. I felt pressure between my legs like having sex with someone. But the choking got worse and worse, to the point where my head, neck and shoulders were raised off of the pillow. I broke the connection just as I felt myself start to panic that I was going to black out.

I rested and then tried again. I asked what creature was with me and at first the name Bael flashed in my head. I said no way, this is not Bael’s energy. I demanded to know what entity was with me. The name Asmoday came up in my head in huge, bloody letters. They were dripping and oozing blood. He appeared in my head for a moment as a horrible black demon with huge horns and glowing red eyes. He started laughing with this hoarse, croaking laughter.

After I went to bed, it began to happen again. There was an immense weight on my chest and it felt like someone was strangling me around the neck. My eyes were open most of the time, and I couldn’t see anything. Again, my head, neck and shoulders were pulled up and I was struggling so hard to breathe that I was gargling.

A voice came to me. He sounded very egotistical and smug. Kind of like a frat bro slash used car salesman vibe. The entity said, “Hey, babe, I know exactly what you want.”

My ex’s photo popped up in my head. The voice said, “Getting it’s a piece of cake. He’s already halfway there. I’m the only one who can do it for you and all you gotta do in return is…”

I began to panic from the choking and the connection was lost. I got up and asked all entities to leave and did a cleanse and banishing.

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Don’t work with him. He’s an asshole.

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To be honest? Yes. One time he nagged me all day for a sexual offering, and when I refused he falsely promised to pay me $1000. He likes to play terrible tricks on women when he doesn’t get what he wants. Be cautious around Asmoday, even if it wasn’t really him in this case.

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I am a woman and I have never had any problems with Asmoday. He has never been an asshole and has never asked me for sex.

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Sounds like a variant of a hag attack. It’s a parasite and the weight feeling is from it stealing your energy. Banish and cleanse and set up proper wards.

Parasites always claim to be the big names to try to get your permission and compliance. Never believe a thing they say, just attack them right back. They also always pick a name you know from your mind, going for emotional effect and attempting to get authority given to them by you through name dropping to sound impressive.

We have a ton of tutorials on the behaviour of these pests, how to recognise, test them and get rid of them, and more importantly how to set up your spaces to they don’t get near you again. These nasties shouldn’t be anywhere near your private space.

My experience with Asmoday is he can be judgmental, but not pushy, and if you stand your ground he’ll eventually come around and negotiate a mutually workable relationship. He’s a high level Djini with shit to do, not really a “night mare”, in the original sense of the word, prowling for dinner.

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Stop giving him attention and energy and see how fast his demeanor changes.

Exactly. He acts friendly until SOMETHING pisses him off, or he doesn’t get what he wants from you. Then he’ll find ways to vampirize your life until you force him away. (I had to with Archangels)

Hands down, the biggest asshole in the infernal worlds I’ve ever dealt with, and have no sympathy or empathy for him. :skull_and_crossbones:

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From what I’ve understood and read about, King Asmoday MAY be pushy but he will always respect you when you say no. If he kept pushing and pushing and didn’t listen… it most likely wasn’t him.
I work with him closely and he’s always been kind to me, yes he’s been pushy but it’s for my own good.

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Okay, but I’m certain that I was working with the real Asmoday because I can discern what a god’s energy feels like. The first time I evoked him my senses were much more open than they are now and he came in very strongly. That’s something that a lower level entity can’t replicate. I also have more reason to believe that this was the real Asmoday because he introduced me to Belial, Azazel, and Paimon, and I also worked with their energies for a short time before things went south.

That also wasn’t the first time something weird like that happened. The first time he made a sexual pass at me I kept hearing the word rape in my head over and over again and I got angry at him and ignored him for the rest of the evening. The next time I talked to him he blamed it on my shadow self and I was inclined to agree with him since I have such terrible intrusive thoughts.

Demonolaters need to understand that these entities are just as capable of doing harm as they are of helping people. Not every negative experience people have with them is going to be due to a parasite or impostor.

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Exactly. He knows what disgusts people and uses it to bring out torment on people while says it’s your own self. He did constantly force thoughts of sexual violence, encounter images of it, and people who were violent and sexually threatening. Then he told me I need to work on myself. Nah, that’s just the entity provoking the energy they feed on.

Just cause a spirit is mean doesn’t mean it’s “not really them”. And not everything is “a lesson” or “growth”. He’s acting nice cause he wants you to like him. You’re an opportunity to him.

Black magicians and demonolaters need to take off their rose-tinted glasses and realize that these spirits (not gods, spirits) have their own will, and will simply do as they please unless boundaries are enforced.

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Again, this was stated from another source I’ve read about.
You make a good point regardless though, about the entities having their own will.

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My experience with Asmoday is hitting into a similar vein, although not into this forceful terrain.

Several years ago I called on him for something; he would appear as a breathtakingly beautiful woman (I’m not into women but I was questioning that a bit as I was exposed to this energy and sight, not going to lie) and he would try to hit it off with me. He wasn’t forceful or anything, just convincingly and overwhelmingly sensual. I stopped him right there with “I appreciate this, but I am actually seeing someone else already”. He was seemingly amused with my confused approach of telling him “no” but he got straight back to serious business with me right after that. He never tried this way with me ever since.

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Just like people, spirits can keep bridges intact for future opportunity. It doesn’t have to be sexual. It can be any form of energy they get from you dealing with them more. (thoughts, offerings, alchemical, etc.)

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I do not know that he was asking me for a sexual offering because I cut him off before he finished the last part of that sentence.

The sexual part early on felt more like a show of power and an attempt to intimidate and demean me. Possibly to get me to agree to the terms he was going to give me.

But because I never called out to or summoned Asmoday in any way, I was not comfortable with this entity. I do not know if it was really him or not. And I’m pretty sure I don’t want to work with him at all under these conditions. There was nothing respectful about it.

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Right, last I checked that was the glorious risk of working with them. I enjoy their chthonic and infernal aspect along with their tutelary one. That’s just the way it is. Just research Furfur.

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This is coming from a place of acknowledging you, not disagreement-

They will respect that about you. Demons basically want to make people in their own image. If you stand up for yourself, they really can’t complain, and you’ll vibe more with others now than before.

I’ll bet you anything that if you invoke Lilith NOW she will be approving and closer to you, because by refusing to be dominated you imitate HER.

Now, did Asmoday INTEND for that to happen with Lilith as part of an overarching plan to bring you closer to her? Maybe. Maybe not.

Invoke her and ask.

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Interestingly enough, I tried your suggestion last night @Post_lux_tenebrae. I tried invoking Lilith, and also tried invoking Naamah, but I don’t think I was in the right headspace. There were moments where I felt like they both swept through me for sure, because I felt these sweeping energy surges within me like I was bold and empowered and regal like a queen. But I couldn’t hold onto the connections. The difficulty was all with me. I think I’m going to take a break and rest for a few days before doing any more invocations.

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Nice to hear it was in the right direction. Maybe try some chakra strengthening in the meantime? Just spitballing.

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Ty for this. His name has been spoken in my mind randomly now for a couple weeks. It feels like a cordial but amicable invitation, but I am cautious. I only have small experience with a few others, kept a respectful distance from the highest ranking Gods. Participated in virtual rituals with EA last couple months and a couple from the forum, but I don’t remember Asmodius (or Asmoday? Different feels) being mentioned. I should have kept a better record.

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Seconded. I’ve always kept strong boundaries and not had to get aggressive about it with any entity except Hecate. They’re people, people with more info but still people with agendas and shadow sides that might not vibe with your energy. Personally I don’t hold with the fawning and religious idolatry that goes on… I don’t don’t pussy foot about, put them on pedestals and kow tow, I treat them like equals and we’re both higher beings with mutual respect. No respect, no conversation. Stand your ground.

Well said. People do this too, we naturally get on better with people who agree with us, it’s inbuilt as part of our needs as a social species. As above so below.

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I had hesitated invoking Lilith or Naamah because I had read that both ladies could be extremely dangerous to work with. I am torn in this situation with my ex. I want to work things out with him, if possible, but I also have some (justifiable) anger towards him. I was worried that either one of them would act on behalf of my anger and hurt him or worse.

Well, this morning I was feeling more rested and so I summoned Naamah because previously I was getting more reception from her than from Lilith. I believe that I was heard. I believe that Naamah heard me and also looked inside my soul as well, based on the energy and what I felt at the time.

This evening at theater rehearsal a very heavy, dangerous stage prop fell and cracked my ex in the back of the head. He was the only one standing in that area at the time. He’s okay but it really, really hurt. It could have knocked him out or worse. I am worried that Naamah did that on my behalf.

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