Hi everyone,
just talked to some witch who said if a beginner contacted Sallos and offered him something but didn’t know what to do with the offering later it would mean they didn’t read enough about him (I agree). But she also said he would most likely want to get revenge for that behaviour because it would be like underestimating him or something and it would anger him. I don’t understand how.
Could you share your first ever experiences with the goetic spirits and if you agree with this or not? It worried me tbh, made it all so confusing to me to, because how would I know when is the right time to reach out to the goetia directly? I don’t wanna anger anyone.
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Honesty I think that’s nonsense. There’s no need to fear monger like this, or attempt to speak for a being that isn’t even human.
No, of course not because it’s not a thing. Well done for listening to that small inner voice that said “that’s bullshit…” 
Why are you letting people make you second guess yourself? You’ve got a good head on your shoulders, you’ve got common sense and are not frivolous or a risk taker. In a few weeks you’ve far outstripped most people with only a passing interest and are asking all the right questions.
It’s one thing for this person to say “I did this once, and this happened” - that may or may not happen to you - but to randomly claim this kind of thing is the mark of an armchair wannabe who doesn’t know what they’re talking about, didn’t go get the experience and just wants to sound like a know it all.
When you feel like it. That feeling is an empathic invitation.
You won’t. These are not petty humans with sticks up their butts more self-important than helpful, and they totally get what being human is like. Some people just need to project their fears less.
If your protections and banishing techniques are under your belt, there’s no reason not to pick a friendly entity and open a conversation.
They are not going to jump down your throat for trying - they WANT you to try, and respect your courage, but moreover it’s what they’re here for, IMO. There is NO REPLACEMENT for your OWN experience.
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She’s fear mongering me a lot. Just said she got cold sweats because I talked about contacting Michael and willing to contact the Duke. Now even I do feel that way, maybe magick isn’t for me since I get stressed so easily. I feel lost and don’t know who to follow anymore. I feel like I did something wrong and endangered myself but I only wanted good. I don’t know if I’ll be able to sleep even. She said it’s dangerous and suggested I’m ‘fucked up’ to do what I did — but I never even invoced anyone officially, I’m just researching and if anything I just had that accidental invocation if you remember and I did a petition to Michael and sometimes I call upon him and Raphael like in a praying way and that’s it.
If you want a relatively safe way of calling upon the Goetia, many people here have had good success using the methods in Gordan Winterfield’s book Demons of Magick or Henry Archer’s Magick of Angels and Demons.
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You’ll alwasy be asking yourself “what if”.
Maybe take a break from this person since she seems to be trying to sabotage you with her own issues and tell her less about what you’re up to, just for now. You can tell her all about it afterwards.
You’ve also done .love magick before, the most risky of magicks, and nothing bad happened. So you can do it if you want to.
I like the idea above put firth by @DarkestKnight, or try a petition. Baby steps - do one contact to put your toe in the water - you don’t have to dive in - and then judge for yourself based on that.
I recommend Leraje, for mental strength, ask him to work with you on releasing your fears, to replace them with discernment, and on being more sovereign.
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Thank you @Mulberry @DarkestKnight
When it comes to petitions especially petitioning the Goetia can I just do it straight away…? Or do I need a protection ritual before? I think I’ve never asked this before anytime talking about petitioning.
You can do it right away but I mentioned the methods above because they include built in protection and you have a lot of fear and doubt within your energy right now.
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You should have protections up as a basic matter of course - they’re not just for entities they’re also human interjects, random astral crap and wildlife and making a clean space to work in.
You clean your kitchen before you cook in it, right? If you don’t you could get sick from germs - same thing, you clean your ritual space and sleeping space, at a minimum, before you work or sleep. As sleeping is also working.
This woman giving you fear is an example of a human parasite who should not be getting through your shields to affect you this way.
I think I gave you this ink before, it’s so important and you seem to be forgetting about it - pay attention now.
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There is so many I don’t know which to choose and then proceed with anything plus with ADHD it’s hard to focus. I am going through that book pinned in the first post there though.
I have ADHD, and no it’s not: you have the ability to hyperfocus, and you are distracted when shit is too boring to keep you interested, don’t let normies put you down.
So use that hyperfocus and get it done. If you want to you will, if you can’t be bothered to try, then don’t.
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