In my opinion it’s more like a light contract lol. Only reason I view it this way is due to the guardian angel showing up after I was baptized. Of course, since there’s no real obligations it could also be seen as an initiation of sorts, like any other religious dedication.
I like that reference.
Yes it does seemas an initiation into it, however you have to carry it on or that connection will grow weak.
Such as the steps to get into heaven. It’s like the first step and from there you either build it or ruin it.
Definitely a better concept than what I’ve heard other say about this topic.
This is a very interesting topic for me considering my current situation.
I too had all kinds of ideas about Yahweh and the bible. Then I actually read it as directed by my dreams. Yahweh, Satan, demons, and angels have all been leading me to this path I never thought I’d ever tread. Since it’s late, I will only say this…
If you have any ideas about who Yahweh is and isn’t, I’d suggest contacting your favorite demon or angel and asking them. We must remember that many of our favorite demons and angels all actually come from the ancient Hebrew spirituality. Judaism is one take on what was written, but there are clear attempts even within the bible itself to try and cover things up and make things more palatable for the religions and preconceived notions that descended from the original Hebrew scripture. Do not trust any second hand knowledge or even long held traditions on gods and spiritual beings. We are magicians and spiritual practitioners. Unlike the general population, we can communicate with these beings directly and do our own investigation in an experiential manner.
Yes for me I’d contact Lucifer, but the vibe I get is just he’s shaking his head like I don’t wanna talk about him. Let’s just not.
I had him follow me into a church. In which this cloud of darkness grew from behind me and around me. Very low vibration sound almost like deep deep trumpets. And then my candle kept going out.
Someone told me that was him being like you shouldn’t be here anymore, it’s not for you.
I get the vibe that I need to read the bible to understand more however. And then build on that knowledge. Cause even tho I went to catholic school and was raised catholic I never actually read the damn thing. Never wanted to.
But ever since a few months ago it’s been calling to me like, listen to this history. Find what you like. And find what you don’t like and make your own conclusions. And then come back to me.
Just don’t make the mistake many people do:
Take something literally while you ignore something else because you don’t like it.
There are words of wisdom and useful information in the Bible, no doubt.
But the stories are mostly highly symbolic.
Also, the context and time they were written in, as well as meanings that were changed or lost in translation must also be considered.
Oh no of course!
I don’t like how people literally translate the bible.
These are stories that you are to learn from and gain knowledge. Not pick and choose what you like and don’t and follow by that.
I’m more looking for the symbolisms and meanings more that what the words themselves mean.
Such as the exorcism of demons could just mean the expulsion of negative thoughts and feelings as to ascend higher rather than actual demons.
And yes for sure about the translations.
I’ve heard that many things people believe are mistranslations or made to fit the current period/religion they wanted.
such as that being gay is a sin was a mistranslation supposedly. That the truer translation of the line is “thou must not take advantage of thou apprentice.”
Which at the time most apprentices were young men. Which then led to the mistranslation.
But thank you for the reminder as sometimes I like to pick and choose what I like and follow by it hah
Yes. You get visions of family and friends when you die and get asked to go to the light, when you do your soul becomes recycled by reptilians on the moon then transport it back here, it’s their feed
Wheel of Samsara
Don’t go to the light
While this is true, there’s a reason why it’s still so commonly read even in our times. It’s stories are universal. Even for those who have no spiritual inclination can get something out of it. When you are talking about a spiritual practitioner led to read it, it’s not the same. Any confusion can be cleared up personally by the spirits and Yahweh.
TBH, my experience has been the opposite. You actually do pick and choose what suits you. If you don’t want to follow something, don’t. A true reading of scripture with spiritual intent means to allow the words and spirits to communicate with you. Don’t make the mistake of the religious and those who have their own beliefs. Realize that some things were meant quite literally, it’s just that our modern worldview takes issue and wants to reinterpret or twist things to make them fit our own worldview. Try to understand how these things were meant in their time.
Reading scripture as one who is a spiritual practitioner should be a spiritual practice. It’s not like reading some run of the mill magical book. There are demons and angels all in there waiting to be discovered. Study Kabbalastic practice and theory. Get a Tanakh. Go deep if you feel the urge.
Yea I completely understand.
For me it’s like I want to take a highlighter and post it notes and just mark up everything.
My thoughts. Concerns. One colour are things I agree with another is things I don’t.
And see how it all comes together afterwards.
Cause something is pulling me to the book, like someone wants me to find out something that’s in there.
I will try and have a clear head and just allow it to speak to me in a sense.
I’m not really religious anymore, not with Yahweh anyways but I do think there are some valuable things in there and something that I need to learn from it.
And def need to look at in in a older more historic perspective, the meaning behind the text so to speak.
When I read books such as this or the key of Solomon. I treat it as a textbook almost. I write my own notes and descriptions. It’s a very meditative thing for me to do (writing notes) so I’ll try and maintain that.
Currently I’m just scratching the surface, but I do plan to go deep and learn as much as I can. My biggest message from my guides is to meditate and to read. I’ve just been procrastinating too hard
It sounds like you are in the exact position I am, lol. Can I PM you? I have already done some work on this front and am just realizing the depth is infinite.
Yea sure! Message me whenever
Yahweh shouldn’t be an issue anymore…
I’m more confused now
Do we really have a choice? I’m here for be free, to become a “God”
If my soul doesnt belong me even without know it, it’s a big problem
And sell our free will goes against the meaning of left hand path
Your soul always belongs to you, the concept of selling your soul is actually a very real conscious thing you can choose to do, it’s pretty much literal and figurative as it’s pretty much selling yourself really.
It’s honestly nothing to worry about since you can simply choose not to do it, does it happen? yes, do you have a choice in the matter? yes. If a person knows they’ll never do it then it’s a subject that doesn’t matter to them. If a person who at some point feels they’d do it to a entity they trust.
Try reading this short book: The Kybalion PDF, archived link (we don’t trade PDFs on here as a general rule but this one is okay, the text is out of copyright and the edition was given for download from the site that created it).
I’m very grateful with your answers
That’s very useful and infomative
I didnt undertand it the first time thank you
I don’t think it’s always conscious, people sign contracts and do things they are not ready for, or do not agree with.
When I was in second grade my mom put me and my sister in after school church club. She actually hated church as a child and always talks about how awful it is.
She did it because she couldn’t afford a baby sitter, or maybe she thought we would be good and comply.
Anyways, the uh pastor or whatever basically asked the whole group who had given their soul to Jesus for salvation, me my sister and one other kids were the only ones who did not.
She then asked us if we wanted to save our souls today and be accepted by Jesus for salvation. Be bathed in his eternal love etc etc.
I actually was against the idea, I suppose I had a choice, but with all those beaty eyes looking at me and being told it was the right thing to do I buckled.
Lmao. I remember she showed us some book with colors and she asked me what it meant relating to go…I basically said “Jesus likes colors I guess”.
Then she asked to do the prayer and asked why I wanted to go to heaven.
I said: “Well I don’t wanna get in trouble”.
Apparently that was the wrong reason…
The memory didn’t come back until I got into this path. I was so paranoid about accidentally giving away or corrupting my soul without permission.
One time when I evoked Azazel I was shown a huge scheme. I saw how everything that had happened, had to happen to lead to that point.
I remember looking at Azazel in a sort of oversoul way.
To human me it was the past when I set up earth (we experience time linear most of the time but in that moment it was all fluid), during the evocation it was simultaneous.
Like I saw how all my choices before I was alive and each led to the moment of realization.
Azazel and me joke, thank God for church!
I’m sure we would have connected if I was not Christian but I get it now. I saw the flaws of what I had been fed and chose to broke away.
What makes me an adversary is the choice.
What makes them sheep (in my opinion) is partially their choice. They are more concerned with following the masses and not questioning.
At the same time I understand how it can happen.
Ultimately soul pacts should be thought out, and I do not agree with dedication of a soul to anyone but oneself. Self deification.
Reading the ceremonial magick by waite
Or the grand Grimoire dark lodge version
It is clearly shown how to make a pact with lucifuge
Feels good reading that
Really feels like theatrical when tormenting using terrible words of clavicle